Tinypaws: There are contradictions in the Quran, as are there in the Bible. In both religions, depending on who reads what, and how they wish to interpret or focus, will find what they seek.
Funny though how those type of articles always talk about 'apologisers'. To me that doesn't sound very supportive of the fact that those 'apologisers' indeed seem to wish to find all that is peaceful. Shall I take it that peaceful Muslims aren't the desired flavour? That we want them radicalised and violent, so we feel vindicated in our hate? Maybe even so that we have a reason to make war? We, the so peace loving kind Christians...
You sound like a hippie.
Funny? Why? Because it described best of people like you, didn't it?
You can keep preaching your yadda yadda yadda nonsense. Just about minutes ago two sisters, one priest, two visitors were threatened by terrorists in a church in France. I will be waiting patiently to hear news about Christians taking hostages of muslims in a mosque to prove your claim Christians have hatred too for muslims
Conrad73: well I hope you Guys find your utopian Nirvana!
Don't have much hope for it, but certainly shall try and speak up for it.
epirb: My brother served there and got to see what quite a few thousand dead people look like in one place . Hatred and violence is part of that places past . Just because someone is a refugee does not make them "safe " or a good person . You talk of filth and crime maybe you ought to talk of barbarity . A little Islamic girl , Malala , travels the world telling us how we should behave , it was Islamic butchers who put a bullet in her head . Her own kind . Time is approaching when the current garbage that has flowed into Europe will be dealt with , sooner the better .
My father served in the World War II. He read me his poetry when I was just a little girl, poetry he had written while surrounded by all that mud and blood and terror. Would you say our Western past of hatred and war, makes us not safe or good people either?
And in regards to Malala Yousafzai, she is a Muslim, and when we say radicals stand representative for some Muslims out there, we certainly must also say that she stands representative for other Muslims.
robplum: Two men armed with knives have been shot dead after taking several people hostage in a church in northern France. According to a Reuters police source, one of the hostages - a 92-year-old priest - was killed and had his throat slit.
Funny? Why? Because it described best of people like you, didn't it?
You can keep preaching your yadda yadda yadda nonsense. Just about minutes ago two sisters, one priest, two visitors were threatened by terrorists in a church in France. I will be waiting patiently to hear news about Christians taking hostages of muslims in a mosque to prove your claim Christians have hatred too for muslims
Please define hippie to me. You'd say Jesus was a hippie? Long hair, talking of peace...
I am hailing actually rather from the conservatism corner, maybe even as far as being a reactionary in some of my views, and certainly have never taken drugs, and am totally anti alcohol.
You got no clue how far out you are. Nice try though
Tinypaws: Don't have much hope for it, but certainly shall try and speak up for it.My father served in the World War II. He read me his poetry when I was just a little girl, poetry he had written while surrounded by all that mud and blood and terror. Would you say our Western past of hatred and war, makes us not safe or good people either?
And in regards to Malala Yousafzai, she is a Muslim, and when we say radicals stand representative for some Muslims out there, we certainly must also say that she stands representative for other Muslims.
Past is the operative word , Islamic garbage never got with the program . It takes the Christian martial sprit much to excite and much much more to be sated .
Tinypaws: Please define hippie to me. You'd say Jesus was a hippie? Long hair, talking of peace...
I am hailing actually rather from the conservatism corner, maybe even as far as being a reactionary in some of my views, and certainly have never taken drugs, and am totally anti alcohol.
You got no clue how far out you are. Nice try though
What Jesus got to do with you? Do you want to claim Him standing of your back?
I am still waiting patiently for the news when Christians and other non-muslims storm mosques and take muslims as hostages because their Bible or their other books told them to do so
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
But they don't wear a uniform or a badge saying " I am a radical muslim killer" So when someones friends, parents, lover etc are blown to bits by these madman where do they direct their anger.
In my country there are many Muslims, we don't know who is going to stike next until either out secret services foil the or they blow another innocent of group of innocents to bits.
kaetchenvonhn: What Jesus got to do with you? Do you want to claim Him standing of your back?
I am still waiting patiently for the news when Christians and other non-muslims storm mosques and take muslims as hostages because their Bible or their other books told them to do so
No, I asked you to define hippie and asked you whether you think Jesus was one, as I think many associate hippies with long hair, talking of love and peace, same as he is depicted. That's all :)
And what you speak there of such vile attacks, is exactly what those who commit them, want you to speak. They want that hate from you, for all Muslims, so that the hate and divisions this causes, justifies their war and fuels their ranks. They are using you, and by acting as they want you to, you become their tool/henchman.
Okay, lets say that tomorrow every western country closes its borders and no more Muslims are allowed in. What do the countries do with the millions of Muslims already in the west? Including those that have lived in the west for generations. Round every Muslim up and ship them out? Best of luck with that one! The "problem" will not go away. Both cultures are and will always be so far removed from each other, and the current crisis only fuels the differences. What is the answer? I have no idea.
tomcatwarne: But they don't wear a uniform or a badge saying " I am a radical muslim killer" So when someones friends, parents, lover etc are blown to bits by these madman where do they direct their anger.
In my country there are many Muslims, we don't know who is going to stike next until either out secret services foil the or they blow another innocent of group of innocents to bits.
This is very very true, and believe me, I understand the fear this causes. However, this is why they commit their acts of terror, to make you feel that fear, so that you mistrust every Muslim out there/will not form friendships with them, and so that we as the good common people, no matter our religion, are kept divided.
These are extremely trying times, yet I recall someone saying in one post here how he would go and fight IS if he'd be a Muslim, and he was hailed for his 'bravery' - yet all those who claim they'd be that brave, are same time running scared of these extremists committing random acts of terrors in our midst, and are losing their heads over it, in fear it could be them next.
We indeed need bravery now. We need to stand against that terror, united, by not allowing those monsters to drive us apart in hatred and prejudice. Could this mean risking your life? Yes, but this is war, and in a way this is turning us all into soldiers. We have to fight against these beasts and show great courage, by not allowing them to win over our hearts and minds. Allow them to make you fear all Muslims, and they have won.
Tinypaws: This is very very true, and believe me, I understand the fear this causes. However, this is why they commit their acts of terror, to make you feel that fear, so that you mistrust every Muslim out there/will not form friendships with them, and so that we as the good common people, no matter our religion, are kept divided.
These are extremely trying times, yet I recall someone saying in one post here how he would go and fight IS if he'd be a Muslim, and he was hailed for his 'bravery' - yet all those who claim they'd be that brave, are same time running scared of these extremists committing random acts of terrors in our midst, and are losing their heads over it, in fear it could be them next.
We indeed need bravery now. We need to stand against that terror, united, by not allowing those monsters to drive us apart in hatred and prejudice. Could this mean risking your life? Yes, but this is war, and in a way this is turning us all into soldiers. We have to fight against these beasts and show great courage, by not allowing them to win over our hearts and minds. Allow them to make you fear all Muslims, and they have won.
I think you are referring to my post regarding fighting for my country, and I stand by it. It is not bravado as I have worked in countries during conflict, numerous times. My point was that the males who are leaving these countries should be fighting for there country and families, not leaving it to others, including Muslims, but they wont because of what they can get in a western country.
123whisperMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,116 posts
Tinypaws: This is very very true, and believe me, I understand the fear this causes. However, this is why they commit their acts of terror, to make you feel that fear, so that you mistrust every Muslim out there/will not form friendships with them, and so that we as the good common people, no matter our religion, are kept divided.
These are extremely trying times, yet I recall someone saying in one post here how he would go and fight IS if he'd be a Muslim, and he was hailed for his 'bravery' - yet all those who claim they'd be that brave, are same time running scared of these extremists committing random acts of terrors in our midst, and are losing their heads over it, in fear it could be them next.
We indeed need bravery now. We need to stand against that terror, united, by not allowing those monsters to drive us apart in hatred and prejudice. Could this mean risking your life? Yes, but this is war, and in a way this is turning us all into soldiers. We have to fight against these beasts and show great courage, by not allowing them to win over our hearts and minds. Allow them to make you fear all Muslims, and they have won.
Then why your country doesn't let all Muslims in ...just like Germany did !? Why Ireland taking limiting number of refugees ? Let them all in and have a joy to get introduce with first hand experience of exciting Takiya.
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