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Nov 28, 2016 8:43 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
StarOfWars: If the illegal vote were taken out Hillary would have lost by a lot more


And that is for sure..cheers
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Nov 28, 2016 8:44 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
StarOfWars: Such sweet words to hear. It's the same in Ireland. So many tears and shock. It's amazing


Yap, Canadians will be full of them and it is good. Who needs them? They will only undermine the success of his administration. For sure they are so eager to see him fail. grrrrr.
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Nov 28, 2016 8:58 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
lindsyjones: Yes you are right. Always. Rizla.


By the way I wasn't complaining. I just aired what a waste of resources but actually good for them. The more money they can rake for whatever cause, the better off they are. So no let them count. And recount. cheers
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Nov 28, 2016 9:02 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
Hi LJ ... I was just talking to friend in Moscow and they pointed me to some of their local news ... a survey asking Russian people about Mr Trump

78% replied that they expected US / RF relationships to either

" Improve " 43% or

" Improve Greatly " 35%

Only about 4% expected a serious decline

I'll see if I can find the link again ( should have tagged it but didn't think at the time )

cheers
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Nov 28, 2016 9:13 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
HexagonKeySet: Hi LJ ... I was just talking to friend in Moscow and they pointed me to some of their local news ... a survey asking Russian people about Mr Trump

78% replied that they expected US / RF relationships to either

" Improve " 43% or

" Improve Greatly " 35%

Only about 4% expected a serious decline

I'll see if I can find the link again ( should have tagged it but didn't think at the time )


About 80% of Russians drool at the prospect of retaking Eastern Europe. Nuclear war is a very real danger with them. Putin was furious when we installed the missle defense in Poland.
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Nov 28, 2016 9:18 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,376 Posts
Yes. No system is perfect but they came up with something that would stop areas with larger populations, or even bigger states, like California, from being able to dictate over the majority of other states and areas. The electorals were put into place for this reason. They are even Constitutional.

Demonrats, oops. Democrats went over it again and again with Trump for him to be sure to accept the outcome of the election. Of course they would want that; all the media outlets with their "polls" showed hillary as a can't-lose, even under investigations loser.

My how quickly things turned once they realized they'd lost. Percentages might be small in some cases. Michigan is all paper ballot as far as I know. Wisconsin is allegedly, self contained with no internet access to their machine and a mix of ballots and computers. Not sure about Pennsylvania other than the court deadline to file which was 11/28/16.

Nothing will change the outcome unless they really want to worry about a potential true majority vote. California would need auditors, outside auditors, to go through their vote counts one by one, then got back again to count the legal votes. I'm certain of that. It would truly be an actually, interesting thing to know for certain.

Still not the full description I'd like but should be more than enough for most to understand things a little better.

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Nov 28, 2016 9:42 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
HexagonKeySet: Hi LJ ... I was just talking to friend in Moscow and they pointed me to some of their local news ... a survey asking Russian people about Mr Trump

78% replied that they expected US / RF relationships to either

" Improve " 43% or

" Improve Greatly " 35%

Only about 4% expected a serious decline

I'll see if I can find the link again ( should have tagged it but didn't think at the time )


Yes it was predicted as a matter of fact that if Hillary won, they'd have severed our relationship if not an all out war.

I would have suspected that result considering the amicability of the two as opposed to the current administration.
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Nov 28, 2016 9:45 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
Draegoneer: Yes. No system is perfect but they came up with something that would stop areas with larger populations, or even bigger states, like California, from being able to dictate over the majority of other states and areas. The electorals were put into place for this reason. They are even Constitutional.

Demonrats, oops. Democrats went over it again and again with Trump for him to be sure to accept the outcome of the election. Of course they would want that; all the media outlets with their "polls" showed hillary as a can't-lose, even under investigations loser.

My how quickly things turned once they realized they'd lost. Percentages might be small in some cases. Michigan is all paper ballot as far as I know. Wisconsin is allegedly, self contained with no internet access to their machine and a mix of ballots and computers. Not sure about Pennsylvania other than the court deadline to file which was 11/28/16.

Nothing will change the outcome unless they really want to worry about a potential true majority vote. California would need auditors, outside auditors, to go through their vote counts one by one, then got back again to count the legal votes. I'm certain of that. It would truly be an actually, interesting thing to know for certain.

Still not the full description I'd like but should be more than enough for most to understand things a little better.



Dragon, electoral votes is the system. No way it is going to be changed without a referendum on they system of which will be used. In the meantime, let them do anything they want, if it makes them feel better as losers.sad flower
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Nov 28, 2016 9:46 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
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Nov 28, 2016 9:48 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
Hex .......no decent American would fall for your nutty x communist garbage, Who cares what pathetic drivel you come up with. Your country is a loser and you know it.
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Nov 28, 2016 9:57 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
laugh



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Breitbart Traffic Down As Readers Now Getting Bulk Of News Analysis From Graffiti Scrawled Across Neighborhood


LOS ANGELES—Citing statistics that showed a sharp decline in the number of pageviews and unique users over the past week, media industry observers noted Thursday that traffic to Breitbart.com, the right-wing current affairs and opinion website, has continued to fall as more readers begin getting their news analysis from graffiti scrawled throughout their neighborhoods. “While Breitbart has long been a leading online destination for those on the far right, it is suddenly facing stiff competition from remarks spray-painted across communities nationwide, as many of the site’s regular readers begin looking to the sides of local homes, schools, and mosques for the news and opinions they seek,” said media analyst Meghan Trally, who noted that graffitied commentary across the country, including popular critiques like “Go Home Jews” and “Make America White Again,” appeared to be resonating strongly with the site’s readership, leading to the starkly lower engagement numbers seen on the site’s more recent opinion and editorial pieces. “Breitbart is at a serious disadvantage here. Frankly, the site just can’t compete with the accessibility and the reach that all these spray-painted social, political, and cultural comments have, particularly with their attention-grabbing wordings and their eye-catching use of accompanying smashed windows and crude swastikas. It’s unclear how, or even if, the site can win back its readers’ hearts.” At press time, Breitbart executives were holding meetings with their marketing department about ways to tap into the new platform.




popcorn
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Nov 28, 2016 9:59 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
raphael119: Hex .......no decent American would fall for your nutty x communist garbage, Who cares what pathetic drivel you come up with. Your country is a loser and you know it.


Ralphy, why so angry? sad flower
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Nov 28, 2016 10:01 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
bohemianjack: Breitbart Traffic Down As Readers Now Getting Bulk Of News Analysis From Graffiti Scrawled Across Neighborhood


LOS ANGELES—Citing statistics that showed a sharp decline in the number of pageviews and unique users over the past week, media industry observers noted Thursday that traffic to Breitbart.com, the right-wing current affairs and opinion website, has continued to fall as more readers begin getting their news analysis from graffiti scrawled throughout their neighborhoods. “While Breitbart has long been a leading online destination for those on the far right, it is suddenly facing stiff competition from remarks spray-painted across communities nationwide, as many of the site’s regular readers begin looking to the sides of local homes, schools, and mosques for the news and opinions they seek,” said media analyst Meghan Trally, who noted that graffitied commentary across the country, including popular critiques like “Go Home Jews” and “Make America White Again,” appeared to be resonating strongly with the site’s readership, leading to the starkly lower engagement numbers seen on the site’s more recent opinion and editorial pieces. “Breitbart is at a serious disadvantage here. Frankly, the site just can’t compete with the accessibility and the reach that all these spray-painted social, political, and cultural comments have, particularly with their attention-grabbing wordings and their eye-catching use of accompanying smashed windows and crude swastikas. It’s unclear how, or even if, the site can win back its readers’ hearts.” At press time, Breitbart executives were holding meetings with their marketing department about ways to tap into the new platform.



Very irresponsible and lack of decency, I would say. Whose choice is it to go this far? They have no self respect, those that get paid to do anything expressing contempt..sad flower
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Nov 28, 2016 10:03 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
lindsyjones: Ralphy, why so angry?



Don't mind ole Raffle there ... I suspect he's a bit of a redneck and possibly that 'feeling anger' is his only way of knowing he's still alive ?

cheers
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Nov 28, 2016 10:26 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
HexagonKeySet: Don't mind ole Raffle there ... I suspect he's a bit of a redneck and possibly that 'feeling anger' is his only way of knowing he's still alive ?


I think you are right. Let us have his way of always moaning, complaining..laugh
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Nov 28, 2016 10:43 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,376 Posts
lindsyjones: Dragon, electoral votes is the system. No way it is going to be changed without a referendum on they system of which will be used. In the meantime, let them do anything they want, if it makes them feel better as losers.



There are too many to change is actually more the idea.

The electorals could very well change in December if there weren't so many needed to reverse it.

It's just not likely or "possible" as some would say.

It's true to very large degree. How would 37 electorals explain turning coats against their states?
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Nov 28, 2016 10:59 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
lindsyjones: I think you are right. Let us have his way of always moaning, complaining..


I suspect, though of course I make no claim about 'knowing' that like many people in the USA at this time Raffles is feeling fear and confusion because there is a change underway that he (they) do not understand ... it's not an uncommon psychological effect and, because (most?) people aren't terribly good at understanding their own feelings they are 'open' to being manipulated by people who 'tell them what they should be feeling' but do so for their own agenda!

In a way, and as an outside observer with the objectivity that comes from having 'no direct stake' in the situation I can look at the situation over their as if it were 'any ordinary relationship, or marriage' perhaps ?

Many people are discontent in their marriages and yet they continue on with them ... usually it's fear based 'This is bad, but how much worse it might be if I broke the relationship, it might be outta the frying pan and into the fire'

From my perspective it APPEARS that "The Clintons" have been very deceitful throughout both of their careers and that the people of the USA ( for whom I have high regard) have been very gentle and forgiving towards them ... but they've abused that forgiveness and what we've just seen is the angry row that always precedes a break up. The people (one partner) have had enough and want a divorce, Clinton (the other partner) is willing to ay anything (but does nothing) to repair the relationship ... it's as dysfunctional as the relationship between a a good spouse and an Alcoholic Partner.

The AP has no love to give only empty words and clinical manipulations and it's a very long and painful process for the Good Spouse to extract themselves from such a demeaning and degrading relationship ... if indeed they ever manage such a thing. The AP always promises 'I'll be better, just ONE more chance..."

I'd see yourself ( and some of the other posters here ) as being akin to the Empowered Spouse who decided to make the break with the AP and has held true your own commitment despite the tantrums and emotionally made false promises ... and aye, I can understand those who are struggling as ClintonInc creates havoc in the background ...

I don't have a 'direct stake' in the outcome but the US Govt and the POTUS probably in some way indirectly affect everyone in the world ... it's only sense for me to wish you all well and for the 'internal union' of her people to be a strong cohesive union.

As Obama put it "You're all Americans ..."

cheers
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Nov 28, 2016 11:00 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,376 Posts
There are processes in place involving congress and even the supreme court system in the events of 270 not being reached by either side and involving electoral related changes.

A small margin it can become likely. I've read that Bush was actually given his presidency through the supreme court to stop the recounts of recounts in Florida because it was so close. I think that was in 2000.

The margin at present is too large. Physical count and electorally.

There are articles circulating with some of the potential reasoning behind the "recount" call. For it to come from some one that never had a chance to begin with is absurd that states will acknowledge it at all.
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Nov 28, 2016 11:22 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
HexagonKeySet: I suspect, though of course I make no claim about 'knowing' that like many people in the USA at this time Raffles is feeling fear and confusion because there is a change underway that he (they) do not understand ... it's not an uncommon psychological effect and, because (most?) people aren't terribly good at understanding their own feelings they are 'open' to being manipulated by people who 'tell them what they should be feeling' but do so for their own agenda!

In a way, and as an outside observer with the objectivity that comes from having 'no direct stake' in the situation I can look at the situation over their as if it were 'any ordinary relationship, or marriage' perhaps ?

Many people are discontent in their marriages and yet they continue on with them ... usually it's fear based 'This is bad, but how much worse it might be if I broke the relationship, it might be outta the frying pan and into the fire'

From my perspective it APPEARS that "The Clintons" have been very deceitful throughout both of their careers and that the people of the USA ( for whom I have high regard) have been very gentle and forgiving towards them ... but they've abused that forgiveness and what we've just seen is the angry row that always precedes a break up. The people (one partner) have had enough and want a divorce, Clinton (the other partner) is willing to ay anything (but does nothing) to repair the relationship ... it's as dysfunctional as the relationship between a a good spouse and an Alcoholic Partner.

The AP has no love to give only empty words and clinical manipulations and it's a very long and painful process for the Good Spouse to extract themselves from such a demeaning and degrading relationship ... if indeed they ever manage such a thing. The AP always promises 'I'll be better, just ONE more chance..."

I'd see yourself ( and some of the other posters here ) as being akin to the Empowered Spouse who decided to make the break with the AP and has held true your own commitment despite the tantrums and emotionally made false promises ... and aye, I can understand those who are struggling as ClintonInc creates havoc in the background ...

I don't have a 'direct stake' in the outcome but the US Govt and the POTUS probably in some way indirectly affect everyone in the world ... it's only sense for me to wish you all well and for the 'internal union' of her people to be a strong cohesive union.

As Obama put it "You're all Americans ..."



Very nicely said. Thank you handshake wine
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Nov 28, 2016 11:28 PM CST The people has spoken, Trump our new Leader, Part 2
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
secretagent09: Very nicely said. Thank you



Thank you Ma'am ... sincerely
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