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Aug 13, 2018 8:43 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
snowlynx: Reasonable suggestion, you could always do the same of course. You might find the liberals sometimes have a point, being liberal doesn't automatically mean you're wrong.
Seeing as how cannot turn on the TV the radio or go one the internet without the liberal message being shouted from the rooftops by the hollywood leftist, comedians, musicians, democrat politicians, and paid political pundits. One cannot help but be over whelmed by their rhetoric and why so many people are fooled into believing it. I mean why wouldn't they since that's pretty much all they hear.
People need to actually make an effort to see and hear something other than what the liberals want them to hear. All I'm asking is for people to hear the other side for them selves instead of what the liberals are constantly feeding them.
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Aug 13, 2018 9:13 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
bigjb62: Seeing as how cannot turn on the TV the radio or go one the internet without the liberal message being shouted from the rooftops by the hollywood leftist, comedians, musicians, democrat politicians, and paid political pundits. One cannot help but be over whelmed by their rhetoric and why so many people are fooled into believing it. I mean why wouldn't they since that's pretty much all they hear.
People need to actually make an effort to see and hear something other than what the liberals want them to hear. All I'm asking is for people to hear the other side for them selves instead of what the liberals are constantly feeding them.
And everyday I wake up to some sort of drama about Trump. Created by Trump.

See the irony in your statement?
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Aug 13, 2018 9:27 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
Rachie14: And everyday I wake up to some sort of drama about Trump. Created by Trump.

See the irony in your statement?
You're a perfect example. You don't even realize the drama is not coming from Trump. Do yourself a favor and take the fox news challenge.
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Aug 13, 2018 9:35 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
bigjb62: You're a perfect example. You don't even realize the drama is not coming from Trump. Do yourself a favor and take the fox news challenge.
I don't watch the news. I am not that guillble, I read it. That way, I can't be manipulated. I can fact check and make informed decisions.

Maybe you should ask Trump not to sign on Twitter everyday and say such stupid things or mis speak. You'll no doubt say well he's not a politician. He is, he is the President of your country! He isn't your average person, never was. He's driven by ego..he's a bully. Is that why don't you see that in his actions?
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Aug 13, 2018 9:40 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
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Aug 13, 2018 9:43 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
Rachie14: I don't watch the news. I am not that guillble, I read it. That way, I can't be manipulated. I can fact check and make informed decisions.

Maybe you should ask Trump not to sign on Twitter everyday and say such stupid things or mis speak. You'll no doubt say well he's not a politician. He is, he is the President of your country! He isn't your average person, never was. He's driven by ego..he's a bully. Is that why don't you see that in his actions?


Reading does not exempt you from being manipulated.
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Aug 13, 2018 9:52 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
bigjb62: Reading does not exempt you from being manipulated.
I said with fact checking and you totally dismissed the rest of what I said. Why?

C'mon if you are going to make blanket statements about your opposition. When thry respond at least give a full response.

Does Trump make stupid statements?

Does Trump often engage in pissing contests on Twitter?

Has Trump stated after starting the trade wars that impacted his allies and his own country. Has Trump threatened any country who trades with Iran will also have a problem?

Has Trump alienated his allies?

But hey it's ok we'll ignore all that right? That is not including the lies.
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Aug 13, 2018 9:57 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
bigjb62: For those who may doubt my claims he's paid to post dis-information. His threats to black mail me adds some proof to my allegations about him. He & his employer are getting nervous that people will start seeing him for what he is and start realizing that all forums contain leftist who are paid to promote their agenda.
Are you sure you aren't the one on the payroll?...after all who would think of such a thing other than someone already doing it?.....hmmm


you know kinda like the person who accuses their s/o of cheating when really they're the ones cheating....dunno
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Aug 13, 2018 10:09 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
Rachie14: I said with fact checking and you totally dismissed the rest of what I said. Why?

C'mon if you are going to make blanket statements about your opposition. When thry respond at least give a full response.

Does Trump make stupid statements?

Does Trump often engage in pissing contests on Twitter?

Has Trump stated after starting the trade wars that impacted his allies and his own country. Has Trump threatened any country who trades with Iran will also have a problem?

Has Trump alienated his allies?

But hey it's ok we'll ignore all that right? That is not including the lies.
How do you know what you're reading is actually factual?
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Aug 13, 2018 10:14 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
bigjb62: How do you know what you're reading is actually factual?
How many sources do you check?

Totally ignoring the rest of what I have said. AGAIN.
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Aug 13, 2018 10:15 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
M4_Mischief: Are you sure you aren't the one on the payroll?...after all who would think of such a thing other than someone already doing it?.....


you know kinda like the person who accuses their s/o of cheating when really they're the ones cheating....
I wish I was on the payroll. But I'm not gifted in either the written or spoken word.
But that doesn't preclude me from discerning right from wrong.
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Aug 13, 2018 10:17 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
JoyCrest
JoyCrestJoyCrestGeneva, Switzerland18 Threads 494 Posts
The truth hurts I guess... This applies to you!

RIZLARED,

One can have opinions and delusions but lies can't hide the truth! Since you like the Fakestream media, I'm sure you consult the most biased factcheckers, SNOPES & Politifacts..

The Clintons were accused virtually of renting out the White House .. This was a big controversy it's even in WIKIPEDIA ... investigations show that so called friends who can be donors buy their stay through donations. They got at least a total of 5.4 million $ as contributions.The room was actually not FREE as you said. A damning evidence, a memo, asking 100,000 $ or more contributors were to be pursued." "Still the bedroom is paying dividends. Donors who spent the night in the famous room are now writing checks for Hillary"... this was for the 2016 elections. source, slate.com. the Center for Public Integrity, published a report FAT CAT HOTEL, listing the previous guests. The selling of the Lincoln bedroom, getting campaign donations was not considered a crime or disrespectful using taxpayers money!! What if Trump will do the same??

White House Furniture Stolen. Okay, they grabbed furniture which were gifts for the White House, some were returned!! There was again a report, "WIKILEAKS : Hillary Clinton stole furniture from Department of State" October 17, 2016. From Hillary Clinton Can't Stop Stealing Furniture From the American People. The Investigation Committee revealed startling infos about retained gifts (most undervalued), many are missing, and others.

NO news agency, gave apologies or declared their feeds on these two issues as false.

She sold AMERICA by getting millions for her fraudulent foundation from different Arab countries. This is absolutely true, Saudi, Morocco, Qatar, Algeria, the last one gave money to be removed in the terrorist list! No wonder, open border for refugees can give her more donations to their "piggy bank" the so called Foundation! And HAITI, of course, the billions of funds from the country will not be reflected in their personal net worth. It would be stupid! The Clinton's robbed billions from Haiti... watch CLINTON CASH, read books and articles of Charles Ortel articles and watch so many documentaries on this issue. I saw a French film on Haiti but since the foundation headquarters is in Canada, they hide it!!. ABC News Reports on Clinton Corruption in Haiti! You trust false news and the fake media, how do you verify??sad flower
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Aug 13, 2018 10:17 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
and do you think you're the only one who can do that?......dunno
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Aug 13, 2018 10:43 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
Rachie14: How many sources do you check?

Totally ignoring the rest of what I have said. AGAIN.
As I have stated before, one cannot help but hear the left's repeated rhetoric just about everywhere you go. My fact checking relies on what the left reports and doesn't report. I go to fox news whenever I want to know what someone actually said or what happened. Is everything said on fox news always 100% accurate. No. Because sometime a conclusion is made before all the facts are in. But that rarely happens despite what the leftist news tells people.
If you take the time to watch fox news the first thing you will likely see is how much news the leftist media refuses to report. Why would they do that. Well simply put, it's because it contradicts with what their calling the truth. If you dig deep enough you will find plenty of proof that the news their not reporting is truthful and being deliberately left out.
One more thing, if there were other mainstream news outlets where I could refer people other than fox news to to get a good & truthful comparison I would. But for the time being their their pretty much the only one. But that's changing.
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Aug 13, 2018 10:52 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
bigjb62: As I have stated before, one cannot help but hear the left's repeated rhetoric just about everywhere you go. My fact checking relies on what the left reports and doesn't report. I go to fox news whenever I want to know what someone actually said or what happened. Is everything said on fox news always 100% accurate. No. Because sometime a conclusion is made before all the facts are in. But that rarely happens despite what the leftist news tells people.
If you take the time to watch fox news the first thing you will likely see is how much news the leftist media refuses to report. Why would they do that. Well simply put, it's because it contradicts with what their calling the truth. If you dig deep enough you will find plenty of proof that the news their not reporting is truthful and being deliberately left out.
One more thing, if there were other mainstream news outlets where I could refer people other than fox news to to get a good & truthful comparison I would. But for the time being their their pretty much the only one. But that's changing.
But I could say that the owner is Republican so you will go towards that channel based on your own political views . But I don't. But the thing is if it was a democrat that owned it. Would you still watch it?
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Aug 13, 2018 11:18 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
Rachie14: But I could say that the owner is Republican so you will go towards that channel based on your own political views . But I don't. But the thing is if it was a democrat that owned it. Would you still watch it?
I'm all about the truth. So if there was a liberal owned news outlet that was truthful I would absolutely watch and recommend it. The fact that the current owner James Murdoch isn't exactly considered conservative proves it.
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Aug 13, 2018 11:23 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
bigjb62: I'm all about the truth. So if there was a liberal owned news outlet that was truthful I would absolutely watch and recommend it. The fact that the current owner James Murdoch isn't exactly considered conservative proves it.
Does it prove it? He is a Republican.. Read both, then fact check. Then make a decision. Because both sides lie, both sides cause divisions.

That is the truth.
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Aug 13, 2018 11:35 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
Rachie14: Does it prove it? He is a Republican.. Read both, then fact check. Then make a decision. Because both sides lie, both sides cause divisions.

That is the truth.
I'm not sure you can say he is or isn't a republican as his actions say otherwise. He's not acting like a republican should act, but neither do a lot of so called republicans. To me being a republican should be the embodiment of a conservative. But that's alway's the case. Consequently I'm a conservative first and a republican second.
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Aug 13, 2018 11:37 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
bigjb62: I'm not sure you can say he is or isn't a republican as his actions say otherwise. He's not acting like a republican should act, but neither do a lot of so called republicans. To me being a republican should be the embodiment of a conservative. But that's alway's the case. Consequently I'm a conservative first and a republican second.
Corrected:
I'm not sure you can say he is a republican as his actions say otherwise. He's not acting like a republican should act, but neither do a lot of so called republicans. To me being a republican should be the embodiment of a conservatism. But that's not alway's the case. Consequently I'm a conservative first and a republican second.
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Aug 13, 2018 11:49 AM CST "Saint" Hildebees, yeah.well to some people she is.......................
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
bigjb62: I'm not sure you can say he is or isn't a republican as his actions say otherwise. He's not acting like a republican should act, but neither do a lot of so called republicans. To me being a republican should be the embodiment of a conservative. But that's alway's the case. Consequently I'm a conservative first and a republican second.
And not all democrats act like liberals. The point being America is not much different than the UK. We have the conservative party and the Labour party. Both the main runners as is Republican and Democrats.

Only thing is the politicans are getting richer and the working class/ poor people are getting poorer. Conservatives tend to focus on the rich. Whilst taxing the working class to death. Affording the rich more. But they are rich.

So, as a working class person I cannot and will not vote conservative. Any vote for another party besides these two is a wasted vote. Both parties lie.. question is which is in your best interest? Being the class that you are. We're all classed and poverty can also be by design.

.. but when my party lies. I will call them on it.
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