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BerrySmoothie: Rob,
I am in support of our PM Jacinda Adern.
No surprises there.
I think she is doing a fine job leading our country, particularly in wake of the massacre.
You are completely right!!!! (About "no surprises there"). One extreme Leftist praising another extreme Leftist, not exactly a surprise, as you say.I am in support of our PM Jacinda Adern.
No surprises there.
I think she is doing a fine job leading our country, particularly in wake of the massacre.
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charles_nz: You are completely right!!!! (About "no surprises there"). One extreme Leftist praising another extreme Leftist, not exactly a surprise, as you say.
I am not extreme left, as you claim, in my political views......and neither is our PM.I don't wish to enter into a discussion with a man who suggests the gunman may have been a muslim convert himself. How absurd is that?
In court, Tarrant gestured to the cameras, whilst his hands were in cuffs, the White Power salute. The man was a white supremacist.
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charles_nz: You're also on record as a supporter of Maduro, but we'll let that slide.
Maduro IS the legitimately elected President of Venezuela - you're saying that you oppose legitimate elections and the choice of the people?Then you're also supporting all of the previous 67 US interventions that have resulted in the overthrow of the elected government and the installations of puppet leaders who dance to the tune of the US ?
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charles_nz: You are completely right!!!! (About "no surprises there"). One extreme Leftist praising another extreme Leftist, not exactly a surprise, as you say.
She was a bit too quick to describe this as a terrorist attack when, in reality, it seem that it actually was a hate crime committed by one individual?ACTUAL terrorism involves organised groups - the 'terror aspect' being from the knowledge that the group exists and may strike again.
Many have indicated the the gunman gave a 'white supremacy sign' however it could equally argued from the position of his hands near groin that he was giving the insult 'w**nker' indicating his disdain for NZ's legal process and all involved.
Yes, his hands ARE cuffed but that would not prevent him raising them above the waist and making his sign more obvious ...
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BerrySmoothie:
In court, Tarrant gestured to the cameras, whilst his hands were in cuffs, the White Power salute. The man was a white supremacist.
Actually, he didn't. He gave an "OK" gesture. The idea that the "OK" gesture is now a White Power symbol is an urban myth that has been thoroughly debunked.In court, Tarrant gestured to the cameras, whilst his hands were in cuffs, the White Power salute. The man was a white supremacist.
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HexagonKeySet: Maduro IS the legitimately elected President of Venezuela - you're saying that you oppose legitimate elections and the choice of the people?
Then you're also supporting all of the previous 67 US interventions that have resulted in the overthrow of the elected government and the installations of puppet leaders who dance to the tune of the US ?
Jacinda Ardern is the legitimately elected Prime Minister of New Zealand. By your reasoning, I have to support her, too?Then you're also supporting all of the previous 67 US interventions that have resulted in the overthrow of the elected government and the installations of puppet leaders who dance to the tune of the US ?
You are confusing recognition with support. Like you, I recognize Maduro as the legitimate president of Venezuela. But that does not mean I support his policies and actions. Robplum on the other hand, has indicated that he does.
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BerrySmoothie:
I can only speak for the small Muslim community we have in New Zealand. They have lived peacefully and not caused any disturbances at all.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/88112298/air-nz-plane-hijacker-asha-abdille-threatens-repeat-action-upon-release-from-prisonI can only speak for the small Muslim community we have in New Zealand. They have lived peacefully and not caused any disturbances at all.
QUOTE: "The country's only convicted plane hijacker has almost completed her prison sentence and is threatening to hijack another aircraft if she gets the chance.
Asha Abdille stabbed both pilots on an Air New Zealand flight from Blenheim to Christchurch in February 2008. One passenger was injured in the incident.
The Somali refugee took knives onto the 19-seater plane, which was forced to make an emergency landing.
Abdille was sentenced to nine years in prison, and her sentence expires on February 7."
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BerrySmoothie:
As for the hand gesture made in court by Tarrant:
It clearly shows an upside down OK symbol which is associated with white power gangs.
Only in the minds of deranged leftists. This urban myth has been well and truly debunked.As for the hand gesture made in court by Tarrant:
It clearly shows an upside down OK symbol which is associated with white power gangs.
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I see you're desperately stalking me Charles in order to "trip" me up.
Aside from that isolated incident which occured 10 years ago in which Asha Abdille was described has having mental health issues, we have no further incidents in this country, that I'm aware of.
Aside from that isolated incident which occured 10 years ago in which Asha Abdille was described has having mental health issues, we have no further incidents in this country, that I'm aware of.
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Your other offensive comment.....is not worth replying to Charles.
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BerrySmoothie: I see you're desperately stalking me Charles .
Keep telling yourself that, love, if it makes your life more exciting. Fact is, I respond to any post that provokes me, regardless of who it is from. Maybe it is a bad habit, but when I see left-wing nonsense, I feel duty bound to respond and set the record straight.
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BerrySmoothie: I see you're desperately stalking me Charles in order to "trip" me up.
Aside from that isolated incident which occured 10 years ago in which Asha Abdille was described as having mental health issues, we have no further incidents in this country, that I'm aware of.
Fixed.Aside from that isolated incident which occured 10 years ago in which Asha Abdille was described as having mental health issues, we have no further incidents in this country, that I'm aware of.
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I feel I have a right to air my views, without being abused and silenced into submission Charles.
This is my country too.
You have as much right to air yours. Just quit with the name-calling. It's childish.
This is my country too.
You have as much right to air yours. Just quit with the name-calling. It's childish.
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BerrySmoothie: I feel I have a right to air my views, without being abused and silenced into submission Charles.
This is my country too.
You have as much right to air yours. Just quit with the name-calling. It's childish.
Name calling? You mean "leftist"? lolThis is my country too.
You have as much right to air yours. Just quit with the name-calling. It's childish.
You are very welcome to air your views. Indeed, I encourage you to do so. The more you have to say, the more opportunity I get to reply, and I enjoy replying. Rest assured that I certainly do not seek to silence you (or anyone else) into submission. I enjoy debate!
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BerrySmoothie: Unfortunately there'll always be a black market for weaponry.
I was unaware of more than one extreme Muslim attack in Australia, aside from the 2014 hostage crisis in a Sydney cafe which saw fatalities.
I'm sorry Rob. I know it's something that can't be swept under the mat. It does happen. It exists. What I am against is brandishing all Muslims as extremists.
I can only speak for the small Muslim community we have in New Zealand. They have lived peacefully and not caused any disturbances at all.
The Martin Place Sydney cafe was not actually a terrorist incidence, though I understand government prefer to call what occurred a terrorist attack. Given the background events that impacted on his non violent peaceful protest Manis engaged in, I wouldn't call it a terrorist attack at all.I was unaware of more than one extreme Muslim attack in Australia, aside from the 2014 hostage crisis in a Sydney cafe which saw fatalities.
I'm sorry Rob. I know it's something that can't be swept under the mat. It does happen. It exists. What I am against is brandishing all Muslims as extremists.
I can only speak for the small Muslim community we have in New Zealand. They have lived peacefully and not caused any disturbances at all.
Besides car running people over in Melbourne, a couple of shootings in Melbourne as well as other their and attacks carried out in Sydney its all beer and skittles over here.
Besides that, Malaysia has been fighting with Singapore and Indonesian president Widodo twice told Lee to get out of Singapore so he turned up here and tossed 62 billion on the table so he can house his military here in Australia. That the PM of NZ wore hijab surprised me...
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robplum: That the PM of NZ wore hijab surprised me...
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robplum: The Martin Place Sydney cafe was not actually a terrorist incidence, though I understand government prefer to call what occurred a terrorist attack. Given the background events that impacted on his non violent peaceful protest Manis engaged in, I wouldn't call it a terrorist attack at all.
Besides car running people over in Melbourne, a couple of shootings in Melbourne as well as other their and attacks carried out in Sydney its all beer and skittles over here.
Besides that, Malaysia has been fighting with Singapore and Indonesian president Widodo twice told Lee to get out of Singapore so he turned up here and tossed 62 billion on the table so he can house his military here in Australia. That the PM of NZ wore hijab surprised me...
A peaceful protest in Sydney, that didn't end well at all, with loss of lives.Besides car running people over in Melbourne, a couple of shootings in Melbourne as well as other their and attacks carried out in Sydney its all beer and skittles over here.
Besides that, Malaysia has been fighting with Singapore and Indonesian president Widodo twice told Lee to get out of Singapore so he turned up here and tossed 62 billion on the table so he can house his military here in Australia. That the PM of NZ wore hijab surprised me...
Yeah, took me by surprise as well, Jacinda wearing the head scarf. I think it was more of a compassionate gesture to the grieving families who she spoke directly with.
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charles_nz: I'd bet you $100 that this hypocritical tart wouldn't wear a headscarf to enter a Catholic church.
I don;t have the highest opinion of our leader - but such drivel has to be confronted when seenSo, Charles ... tell me "Why would she ?" ... the requirement for women to cover their heads in a catholic church was dropped about 50 years ago ...
CnP
In the 1970s there was a judgment issued by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in a document titled Inter Insigniores that basically stated that since chapel veils were not a matter of faith, it was no longer mandatory for women to wear them. In paragraph 4 it states:
It must be noted that these ordinances, probably inspired by the customs of the period, concern scarcely more than disciplinary practices of minor importance, such as the obligation imposed upon women to wear a veil on their head (1 Cor. 11:2-16); such requirements no longer have a normative value.
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In fact the requirement was only in existence for a short period anyway
CnP
The 1983 code replaced) the 1917 Code of Canon Law, which had been promulgated by Pope Benedict XV. Canon 6.1 n.1 of the 1983 Code specifically states that the entire 1917 Code of Canon Law is abrogated by the new one.
Maybe you're as knowledgeable about Catholicism as you are concerning Islam ?
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There are shootings every single day in Australia, nothing new about that...taking the guns off honest sensible people has left the countries security left wanting...we live next to the biggest Muslim country in the world, that used to be Buddhist...used lot of belief's before the current over the top threat i observe. PNG today AU tomorrow bound up in time...
We'll have to agree to disagree there Rob.
I agree there will always be shootings in either country, though Australia has not seen the scale of the massacre of the Port Arthur shooting since there was an immediate gun law reform.
It seems ironic in this country we're proposing to ban all fireworks nationally and yet these high powered guns are still available. Hopefully this will change shortly. It seems it will.
The NZ Police have been pushing for gun law reform for years but have been unsuccessful, till now.