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There certainly is climate change, but you might be confusing weather with climate....
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pat8lanips: There certainly is climate change, but you might be confusing weather with climate....
The difference between weather and climate is that weather consists of the short-term (minutes to months) changes in the atmosphere. ... In most places, weather can change from minute-to-minute, hour-to-hour, day-to-day, and season-to-season. Climate, however, is the average of weather over time and space.Indubitally my dear Pat.
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Minutes to months would negate seasonality, example you have a particularly hot summer or cold winter one year, thats not necessarily climate change. It well could be, no denying things are changing.
Its become religion more than a science, believers or non believers... But deep down itis a science, what can reasonably be done about it? And will developing countries do anything at all about it? Given they're the biggest polluters, of course depending how tricky your accounting is...
But yes, important issue, lets keep the ideas coming, what may be done to reduce the consequences in future, not just boo hoo we're all doomed kind of thing.
Its become religion more than a science, believers or non believers... But deep down itis a science, what can reasonably be done about it? And will developing countries do anything at all about it? Given they're the biggest polluters, of course depending how tricky your accounting is...
But yes, important issue, lets keep the ideas coming, what may be done to reduce the consequences in future, not just boo hoo we're all doomed kind of thing.
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pat8lanips: Minutes to months would negate seasonality, example you have a particularly hot summer or cold winter one year, thats not necessarily climate change. It well could be, no denying things are changing.
Its become religion more than a science, believers or non believers... But deep down itis a science, what can reasonably be done about it? And will developing countries do anything at all about it? Given they're the biggest polluters, of course depending how tricky your accounting is...
But yes, important issue, lets keep the ideas coming, what may be done to reduce the consequences in future, not just boo hoo we're all doomed kind of thing.
Climate change” and “global warming” are often used interchangeably but have distinct meanings. Similarly, the terms "weather" and "climate" are sometimes confused, though they refer to events with broadly different spatial- and timescales.Its become religion more than a science, believers or non believers... But deep down itis a science, what can reasonably be done about it? And will developing countries do anything at all about it? Given they're the biggest polluters, of course depending how tricky your accounting is...
But yes, important issue, lets keep the ideas coming, what may be done to reduce the consequences in future, not just boo hoo we're all doomed kind of thing.
I've got to take global warming seriously, when i see what emminent people subscribe to it, and the frightening predictions of a logaritmic increase is frightening. Are we at the point of no return or not?????
I certainly hope not, for my children and grandchildrens sakes.
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Lets keep the ideas coming, what can be reasonably done about it. Thats the hard part, not just making observations and ermotive speeches. Bare in mind, over simplistic solutions carry no weight, and what India/China should do are only going to be suggestions.
No point just attacking what I think, I'm not a decision maker of any sort. I doubt world leaders are following this thread eiither.
But yes, its an important issue and I hope we can collectively get on top of it.
No point just attacking what I think, I'm not a decision maker of any sort. I doubt world leaders are following this thread eiither.
But yes, its an important issue and I hope we can collectively get on top of it.
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For a start councils and governments can get a quicker finger out and help with not building on flood planes, making rivers bigger or redirecting rivers away from housing. Dredge rivers from muck trees etc so they can flow.
Stop dumping waste in the sea, dredge around our waters to rid of plastic get shops moving quicker on plastic bottles packaging etc.
Like king kanute we cannot stop the waves but we can make things better as our climate changes
Stop dumping waste in the sea, dredge around our waters to rid of plastic get shops moving quicker on plastic bottles packaging etc.
Like king kanute we cannot stop the waves but we can make things better as our climate changes
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pat8lanips: Lets keep the ideas coming, what can be reasonably done about it. Thats the hard part, not just making observations and ermotive speeches. Bare in mind, over simplistic solutions carry no weight, and what India/China should do are only going to be suggestions.
No point just attacking what I think, I'm not a decision maker of any sort. I doubt world leaders are following this thread eiither.
But yes, its an important issue and I hope we can collectively get on top of it.
No no, I am not attacking you, just giving an opinion on CS.No point just attacking what I think, I'm not a decision maker of any sort. I doubt world leaders are following this thread eiither.
But yes, its an important issue and I hope we can collectively get on top of it.
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No worries Tom, I didnt feel personally attacked just the ideas side of things.
There is no easy solution, ot it would have been adopted ages ago. Red suggests not developing on flood plains, fair point. But countries like Bangladesh where 40% of the landmass is on a delta flood plain have no choice. In developed countries like ours, planning authorities are aware they leave themselves open to litigation, so its not such a major issue. And poplation density is not the same so I think thats a different idea.
We have had electricity and cars for generations in the developed world, there is a moral/ethical issue in us telling less developed countries they should stick with candles and oxen... They would also like to experience what we have taken for granted.
There is no easy solution, ot it would have been adopted ages ago. Red suggests not developing on flood plains, fair point. But countries like Bangladesh where 40% of the landmass is on a delta flood plain have no choice. In developed countries like ours, planning authorities are aware they leave themselves open to litigation, so its not such a major issue. And poplation density is not the same so I think thats a different idea.
We have had electricity and cars for generations in the developed world, there is a moral/ethical issue in us telling less developed countries they should stick with candles and oxen... They would also like to experience what we have taken for granted.
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if the river turning orange
you know who's to blame
you know who's to blame
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Pat I was talking about what my own country could do for its own people we cannot dictate nor look after the whole world.
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Plant trees on the golf courses, stop mowing the lawn, and try to be less easily swayed by the power of impulse purchases. The solution is to do something wilder than consumer society.
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methuzelah: if the river turning orange
you know who's to blame
Obama's EPA!you know who's to blame
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People are losing interest in golf anyway but you know what’s needed is that move away from everything looking like plastic. Try to convince affluence that this manufactured look isn’t always the best in the same that an asymmetrical pizza indicates quality. Britain needs to be more rugged and natural, to target it’s places clearly over-refined where being too domesticated has provoked the rage of Mother Nature.
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The EA said in a statement that heavy rainfalls had caused the Severn’s levels to rise and “flooding of property is expected to continue”.
Parts of the West Midlands and Yorkshire could also be subject to rising floodwaters, the EA added, while yellow warnings for rain and snow have been issued for Northern Ireland and northern England.
England has already received more than 141 per cent of its average rainfall for February, with some regions experiencing an entire month’s worth in a 24-hour period.
“Further spells of rain across England could cause further flooding, particularly in Yorkshire and the Midlands,” said Caroline Douglass, director of incident management at the EA.
“River levels remain high and ongoing river flooding remains probable for the River Severn next week as it responds to heavy rainfall.
“With the effects of climate change, we need to prepare for more frequent periods of extreme weather like this. People need to be aware of their flood risk, sign up to flood warnings, make a flood plan and not to drive or walk through flood water.”
In Scotland, a yellow weather warning has been issued for snow across all but the most northern areas and Aberdeen until 10pm on Monday.
The Met Office said: “Here, two to five centimetres of snow is likely above 100 to 200 metres whilst above 300 metres 10 to 20cm snow may build up.”
Temperatures are also due to fluctuate across the UK on Monday, reaching 11-12C in the south of England and as low as -6C in northern Scotland.
For those parts of the country affected by the cold temperatures, the Met Office has warned commuters to “keep an eye out”.
And they say there isn't climate change