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Apr 23, 2020 9:45 AM CST Are we to believe this?



Anyone care to enlighten me on this article from the New York Times or is it just political manoeuvres?
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Apr 23, 2020 9:52 AM CST Are we to believe this?
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
germanspitz: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/sadness-and-disbelief-from-a-world-missing-american-leadership/ar-BB135rGh?li=BBoPWjQ


Anyone care to enlighten me on this article from the New York Times or is it just political manoeuvres?
I think it's been a long time since the rest of the world looked towards the US for leadership.

When I was young, America was seen as the good guy. The one to look up to.
That is certainly not the case anymore. They have lost the respect of the world in recent times.
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Apr 23, 2020 10:03 AM CST Are we to believe this?
mollybaby: I think it's been a long time since the rest of the world looked towards the US for leadership.

When I was young, America was seen as the good guy. The one to look up to.
That is certainly not the case anymore. They have lost the respect of the world in recent times.
Hi Molly,

I was interested that the article speaks of concerns re Covid 19 and the lack of leadership regarding this. As you well know on here there is a great divide between Americans who are either anti or pro Trump ,so I was curious to get a feel of how others have perceived this crisis and how it has been dealt with for all concerned.
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Apr 23, 2020 10:06 AM CST Are we to believe this?
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
germanspitz: Hi Molly,

I was interested that the article speaks of concerns re Covid 19 and the lack of leadership regarding this. As you well know on here there is a great divide between Americans who are either anti or pro Trump ,so I was curious to get a feel of how others have perceived this crisis and how it has been dealt with for all concerned.
Certainly no country is looking towards the leadership there for guidance.
There are much better countries to looking towards.
Taiwan and South Korea spring to mind.
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Apr 23, 2020 10:08 AM CST Are we to believe this?
mollybaby: Certainly no country is looking towards the leadership there for guidance.
There are much better countries to looking towards.
Taiwan and South Korea spring to mind.
Sounds about right Molly, Certainly not here anyway.blues
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Apr 23, 2020 10:41 AM CST Are we to believe this?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
germanspitz: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/sadness-and-disbelief-from-a-world-missing-american-leadership/ar-BB135rGh?li=BBoPWjQ


Anyone care to enlighten me on this article from the New York Times or is it just political manoeuvres?
The new york times is now and probably always will be initially far left haters of the center and anyone leaning to the right and so it is this article. Truth is, regarding the USA and Covid19, I believe we all suffer here now because our legislators couldn't come together years ago to enable preparedness in the usa for this kind of thing.

As far as the USA losing respect, a lot of us today living here don’t care. We’ve been used and laughed at by our allies for too long. We should pull all American military from most countries unwilling to pay for their own defense or reciprocate in some way. We’ve seen enough of our brainwashed women and men sacrifice themselves for people in Europe who care only about themselves. Rant over.
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Apr 23, 2020 11:02 AM CST Are we to believe this?
galrads: The new york times is now and probably always will be initially far left haters of the center and anyone leaning to the right and so it is this article. Truth is, regarding the USA and Covid19, I believe we all suffer here now because our legislators couldn't come together years ago to enable preparedness in the usa for this kind of thing.

As far as the USA losing respect, a lot of us today living here don’t care. We’ve been used and laughed at by our allies for too long. We should pull all American military from most countries unwilling to pay for their own defense or reciprocate in some way. We’ve seen enough of our brainwashed women and men sacrifice themselves for people in Europe who care only about themselves. Rant over.
Thanks for your input Galrads. I did wonder if this was a media liberal elitist publication. I don't think any country was prepared for this pandemic to be honest.

I'll refrain from comment on the US being used and abused by Europe, those are your personal thoughts, whereas I tend to think that we should all support each other in times of need.handshake
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Apr 23, 2020 11:10 AM CST Are we to believe this?
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
germanspitz: I was asking Americans for their opinion on this publication in relation to the American people.

I am ,and always have been ,fully aware of how this country has been let down by false promises but that is not up for discussion on this thread.
I just broight it up.grin
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Apr 23, 2020 11:16 AM CST Are we to believe this?
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
tomcatty: I just broight it up.
PIERS MORGAN: Complacent, careless and clueless…. the British government's shameful bungling of this coronavirus crisis has left us trapped in a catastrophically bad situation
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