Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest? ( Archived) (150)

Oct 16, 2021 4:24 PM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
mikey4691
mikey4691mikey4691Knoxville, Tennessee USA8 Threads 6,868 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Are you sure, given my user name?
Never sure, but I'll wade into anything..
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Oct 17, 2021 10:00 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
mikey4691
mikey4691mikey4691Knoxville, Tennessee USA8 Threads 6,868 Posts
I've been boycotting the NFL (pretty much all sports) since the first knee was taken.. I guess they haven't went broke yet tho... WTF?? confused
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Oct 19, 2021 5:04 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
rohaan: I understand this. I guess I was confused regarding the legality- as to public denouncing a product or service, and/or encouraging (publicly) others to do the same.
It could be illegal if the denouncement was slanderous, libelous, or contravened some other law.

I could call for a boycott of Unilever products because the company is involved in animal testing, but not because they eat babies, or practise a religion I don't like.

rohaan: But this would compromise freedom of speech. Consider this: while working, either in nursing or even volunteering in food banks and homeless centers, I, and other nurses and employees, could NOT discuss anything spiritual, religious, political..for a myriad of reasons. However, this severely compromised MY freedom of speech—(while working, I’m no longer free??) I suppose the “government” argues that my being in a position of provision unfairly places the client in a vulnerable position.

Like you said, there will be many reasons including that not being a part of the service, harassment, a non-directive, client lead ethos, etc.. You don't want primary need service users to avoid potentially life saving aid because they can't stomach the politics, or religion being foisted on them.

It's about a compromise between your rights and theirs, their need being a primary one (food, medical care) and yours being somewhat tertiary (spiritual/intellectual fulfilment).

rohaan: However, I can argue that having to prove myself over and over to get a drivers license, bank account, rental lease, home mortgage, and hundreds of other goods and services places ME in a vulnerable position, but if I complain, I’m denied anyway, so what’s the use of having rights that crumble when you try to use them?

A bit off topic, but I agree, for many primary needs being met (or extensions to primary needs like driving to work) being contingent on having the right documentation is a problem. That is a failure of the system, particularly as the poorer you are, the more difficult it is.
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Oct 19, 2021 5:08 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
Traolach
TraolachTraolachLondon, Greater London, England UK499 Posts
Nothing changes. CS users thinking their changing the world, one post at a time
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Oct 19, 2021 5:47 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Traolach: Nothing changes. CS users thinking their changing the world, one post at a time
Or those who think they're keeping everything the same, one post at a time.
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Oct 19, 2021 6:00 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
Traolach
TraolachTraolachLondon, Greater London, England UK499 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Or those who think they're keeping everything the same, one post at a time.
That's what happens. Protests are soon forgotten. Then we get on with it. Until the Vegetiblists decide they are angry about something else. Then we go through the same rigmarole
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Oct 19, 2021 7:05 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
Traolach
TraolachTraolachLondon, Greater London, England UK499 Posts
Noone?
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Oct 19, 2021 7:08 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
Traolach
TraolachTraolachLondon, Greater London, England UK499 Posts
Noone
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Oct 19, 2021 7:18 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
Traolach
TraolachTraolachLondon, Greater London, England UK499 Posts
A Jewish leftie. Really hates herself. But too ignorant to care
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Oct 19, 2021 7:25 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
Traolach
TraolachTraolachLondon, Greater London, England UK499 Posts
laugh pop in now and again, cheer you all up. Not ready to live here full time
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Oct 19, 2021 7:28 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
Traolach: pop in now and again, cheer you all up. Not ready to live here full time
It seems that when you get corrected you tend to go all postal, like 6 comments in a row trying to put Jac down..sigh
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Oct 19, 2021 7:33 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
Malfidus
MalfidusMalfidusAntwerp, Antwerpen Belgium7 Threads 117 Posts
In economics and politics based on making profits there are NO ETHICS !!
There are only winners and losers so beware you fly with hawks and eagles and don't scratch with the chicken!! professor
That's the true nature of the homo sapiens, a pest for this planet. moping sigh
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Oct 19, 2021 7:35 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
Traolach
TraolachTraolachLondon, Greater London, England UK499 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: There ya go again, try a snickers it'll make you feel better..
You have no argument. Typically leftist.
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Oct 19, 2021 7:35 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
Malfidus: In economics and politics based on making profits there are NO ETHICS !!
There are only winners and losers so beware you fly with hawks and eagles and don't scratch with the chicken!!
That's the true nature of the homo sapiens, a pest for this planet.
I guess that's like saying "Money is the root of all evil" handshake
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Oct 19, 2021 9:20 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: Do you think boycotts make a difference?



Israel’s settlements contribute to serious human rights abuses and are a direct cause for restrictions on Palestinian freedom of movement, access to natural resources and ability to build homes and conduct business. UN Security Council Resolution 2334 (2016) reconfirmed the illegality of Israeli settlements, denouncing them as “flagrant violations” of international law.
laugh comfort

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#BDS
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Oct 19, 2021 10:00 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
Grandsiozzie: Certainly, to such an extend that the leadership of my transport union
felt they could flag the boycot Israel banner on our behalf.
And that was one step to far for my liking.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Palistinians.
But I also support Israel.
No worries Grand, it's you're right to support whomever you wish..tip hat
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Oct 19, 2021 10:07 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
jac_the_gripper: It could be illegal if the denouncement was slanderous, libelous, or contravened some other law.

I could call for a boycott of Unilever products because the company is involved in animal testing, but not because they eat babies, or practise a religion I don't like.


Like you said, there will be many reasons including that not being a part of the service, harassment, a non-directive, client lead ethos, etc.. You don't want primary need service users to avoid potentially life saving aid because they can't stomach the politics, or religion being foisted on them.

It's about a compromise between your rights and theirs, their need being a primary one (food, medical care) and yours being somewhat tertiary (spiritual/intellectual fulfilment).


A bit off topic, but I agree, for many primary needs being met (or extensions to primary needs like driving to work) being contingent on having the right documentation is a problem. That is a failure of the system, particularly as the poorer you are, the more difficult it is.
Thanks for writing. I always gain either additional information or other ways to see an issue when you write. You are an exceptionally healthy, academic friend.hug
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Oct 19, 2021 10:14 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
Traolach
TraolachTraolachLondon, Greater London, England UK499 Posts
Hope noone gets upset.
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Oct 19, 2021 10:14 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
Traolach
TraolachTraolachLondon, Greater London, England UK499 Posts
Dont mean noone any harm
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Oct 19, 2021 10:15 AM CST Are boycotts a legitimate form of protest?
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
rohaan: Thanks for writing. I always gain either additional information or other ways to see an issue when you write. You are an exceptionally healthy, academic friend.
Thankyou and you're welcome, Ro.
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