Margaret Thatcher . (204)
blathin: Houses were a lot more affordable back then than they are now. (a typical 40k house in the late 80's in the SE of England is now worth over 300k and salaries/wages haven't kept up with those price hikes)..and what's happened to all those privately owned houses? They're being bought up hand over fist by vulture funds/investment funds/property manangement/developers and rented out at seriously extortionate rents to those who can't afford to buy houses.....and driving them even further into poverty...
Had she not sold those houses, and built more council houses instead there's be less homelessness today, as well as poverty, crime and all the peripheral fear that goes along with those things....
Then add crippling council tax on top....
All she's done is destroy lifes and if not destroyed them then dragged their quality of life way down and made their lives far more miserable that they should be ..How does that equate to her being a great leader??
Before you start throwing facts and figures at me , council houses were sold at around 33- 50% of their market value .Had she not sold those houses, and built more council houses instead there's be less homelessness today, as well as poverty, crime and all the peripheral fear that goes along with those things....
Then add crippling council tax on top....
All she's done is destroy lifes and if not destroyed them then dragged their quality of life way down and made their lives far more miserable that they should be ..How does that equate to her being a great leader??
The homeless situation as you well know is a social issue , rather than a financial one .
Abusive parent , unruly children etc . But that’s another topic for another thread .
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Youcannow: Before you start throwing facts and figures at me , council houses were sold at around 33- 50% of their market value .
The homeless situation as you well know is a social issue , rather than a financial one .
Abusive parent , unruly children etc . But that’s another topic for another thread .
May I also add , that the revenue obtained by the selling of those council houses generated revenue to build other properties.The homeless situation as you well know is a social issue , rather than a financial one .
Abusive parent , unruly children etc . But that’s another topic for another thread .
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Youcannow: Of course ..
If a woman says it not true , then it must be factual
Ah,' the Misogyny peeks out, but didn't you realise Thatcher was a woman, I think.If a woman says it not true , then it must be factual
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Youcannow: I don’t think she sold the houses personally.
It gave Many people, who couldn’t buy privately the opportunity to get in the property ladder .
I think that policy won her the election.
As for the utility sell off . It was given to the public as shares . Working class people made a mint after selling them .
I'm sure that eating the nest egg felt very good at the time but it didn't work out long-term. There was only London left and it makes people rather unhappy as far as the rest of the country is concerned.It gave Many people, who couldn’t buy privately the opportunity to get in the property ladder .
I think that policy won her the election.
As for the utility sell off . It was given to the public as shares . Working class people made a mint after selling them .
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tomcatty: Crippling the fat cat's enormous profits
It’s the fat cats who employ people , rather than just throwing good money after bad for the sake of employment. It’s called capitalism. Learn your economics .
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Youcannow: It’s the fat cats who employ people , rather than just throwing good money after bad for the sake of employment.
It’s called capitalism. Learn your economics .
Take advantage of people like the fascists they areIt’s called capitalism. Learn your economics .
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ChesneyChrist: I'm sure that eating the nest egg felt very good at the time but it didn't work out long-term. There was only London left and it makes people rather unhappy as far as the rest of the country is concerned.
I agree, the north was hardest hit & I know a lot of people suffered , especially the mining , car & steel industries. But it’s a result of her policies & cutting tax for foreign investors that the north is thriving now .
The gap between the north east & London has reduced dramatically in the past 15-20 years .
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tomcatty: Take advantage of people like the fascists they are
Go and live in China if you don’t agree with capitalism.------ This thread is Archived ------
blathin: The unions didn't and still don't deal with the day to running of an industry or have any control wahtsover over it or the financial management/overheads/running costs etc. That's entirely down to the management, really bad management....
All the unions did was try to get the workers better working conditions and pay etc..that's all, so dont be blaming them for things they had nothing to do with....
I understand, but there has to be a happy medium but the unions had to much power . All the unions did was try to get the workers better working conditions and pay etc..that's all, so dont be blaming them for things they had nothing to do with....
Every Industry public , or private needs to at least make a profile , or break even .
What the unions were asking for was way beyond the rate of inflation.
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Youcannow: Go and live in China if you don’t agree with capitalism.
I disagree with your form of conservatism, I'm more middle of the road. I think you would be happier in a fascist dictatorship
bye.
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tomcatty: I disagree with your form of conservatism, I'm more middle of the road. I think you would be happier in a fascist dictatorship bye.
As per usual , you’ve argued your corner with no facts , other than to troll me .------ This thread is Archived ------
Youcannow: As per usual , you’ve argued your corner with no facts , other than to troll me .
It seems you're the one who has run out of reason , why are you so supercilious, ever thought you might be wrong???------ This thread is Archived ------
tomcatty: It seems you're the one who has run out of reason , why are you so supercilious, ever thought you might be wrong???
There’s no right or wrong . It’s what people believe in .------ This thread is Archived ------
Youcannow: What word or fact isn’t correct?
Explain yourself ?
Ah stop would ya, you probably know well most of what you've written was all wrong...and deliberately so too..Explain yourself ?
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Youcannow: Of course ..
If a woman says it not true , then it must be factual
Ah stop, now you're just being silly....If a woman says it not true , then it must be factual
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blathin: Ah stop would ya, you probably know well most of what you've written was all wrong...and deliberately so too..
I go by fact , not emotions .------ This thread is Archived ------
blathin: Ah stop, now you're just being silly....
Maybe , but he is a wimp where women are concerned.------ This thread is Archived ------
Youcannow: Maybe , but he is a wimp where women are concerned.
Your still jealous cos I got the girl, everyone knows, you carry on but try to be polite to the ladies
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Youcannow: Before you start throwing facts and figures at me , council houses were sold at around 33- 50% of their market value .
The homeless situation as you well know is a social issue , rather than a financial one .
Abusive parent , unruly children etc . But that’s another topic for another thread .
It's irrelevant what they were sold at...the fact is they were sold, and weren't replaced...So the poor who either followed, or couldn't afford to buy were forced into the private sector and their rents soared.....That will have had all sorts of knock on consequences that the likes of Maggie Thatcher would have blamed them for...and it seems you do too...The homeless situation as you well know is a social issue , rather than a financial one .
Abusive parent , unruly children etc . But that’s another topic for another thread .
Homelessness is a social issue??? What a really odd thing to say....The government of every country is supposed to do the right thing by the people. Of course homelessness is a social issue, social = people...and people were left without a roof over their head becuase Maggie Thatcher sold off the housing stock. Housing that was meant for the poorest in society...
Abusive parents ,unruly children are found in the higher echelons of society just as much as they are in the poorer quarters. I'm surprised you think bad behaviour is exclusive to the poor...or would try to use that as some sort of justification for MT selling off the country's housing stock.
Think you're just taking the mickey and trying to wind me/others up....
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It doesn’t make economic sense , plus it was crippling the taxpayer.
All the unions did was try to get the workers better working conditions and pay etc..that's all, so dont be blaming them for things they had nothing to do with....