Margaret Thatcher . (204)
YoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Poststomcatty: Your still jealous cos I got the girl, everyone knows, you carry on but try to be polite to the ladies
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Yeh Glasgow does seem to have a bad problem with drugs. I've also seen quite a few people walking around whom clearly should be in a psychiatric unit....
But Maggie Thatcher closed them all and shifted responsiblity to "care in the community"
Now those poor people are left to their own devices, have zero care, and are wandering around the streets, totally lost and invariably end up on illegal drugs...
That's the legacy your great leader Magggie Thatcher left in her wake...
Long may she burn!
But Maggie Thatcher closed them all and shifted responsiblity to "care in the community"
Now those poor people are left to their own devices, have zero care, and are wandering around the streets, totally lost and invariably end up on illegal drugs...
That's the legacy your great leader Magggie Thatcher left in her wake...
Long may she burn!
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blathin: As you know well, I'm Irish and not from Glasgow...
It's the other way around. When drugs were legal there were no social problems. They got their drugs (from the doctor) and went on about their day. Making drugs illegal created a massive market for the criminals and drug dealers...and of course they went out on the street selling their goods...to kids, the young the most vulnerable....if you want to blame anyone for the chronic drugs problem then look at where it started..the government making them illegal....now it's gone so far out of control it's irreparable.
Are you trying to say those young single mothers should have been left on the street? What about the father's responsiblity?It takes two to create a child you know. Why are you just blaming the mothers and make no mention of the boy/man who fathered the child...
So you've gone from Maggie Thatcher being a great leader because she sold off the country's housing stock to the tenants....to the single mothers being responsible for the lack of council houses because they got pregnant and needed a council house..
The ordinary working class family couldn't get a council house..because..have you forgotten..Maggie Thatcher sold them all....
Margaret Tatcher sold the council houses to residing tenants. . They weren’t sold to non residents . They had the choice to buy , or keep renting . It's the other way around. When drugs were legal there were no social problems. They got their drugs (from the doctor) and went on about their day. Making drugs illegal created a massive market for the criminals and drug dealers...and of course they went out on the street selling their goods...to kids, the young the most vulnerable....if you want to blame anyone for the chronic drugs problem then look at where it started..the government making them illegal....now it's gone so far out of control it's irreparable.
Are you trying to say those young single mothers should have been left on the street? What about the father's responsiblity?It takes two to create a child you know. Why are you just blaming the mothers and make no mention of the boy/man who fathered the child...
So you've gone from Maggie Thatcher being a great leader because she sold off the country's housing stock to the tenants....to the single mothers being responsible for the lack of council houses because they got pregnant and needed a council house..
The ordinary working class family couldn't get a council house..because..have you forgotten..Maggie Thatcher sold them all....
I’m not saying single mother should be left on the street , I’m saying girls got pregnant deliberately to get a council house .
Since when have drugs ever been legal ?
Legalising cannabis , would just be the start .
What about the harder drugs that are more harmful . Should they be legalised as well .
Really . Sometimes you surprise me with your comments.
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Coming from Glasgow, as in living there , not to be confused with a native .
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Youcannow: Margaret Tatcher sold the council houses to residing tenants. . They weren’t sold to non residents . They had the choice to buy , or keep renting .
I’m not saying single mother should be left on the street , I’m saying girls got pregnant deliberately to get a council house .
Since when have drugs ever been legal ?
Legalising cannabis , would just be the start .
What about the harder drugs that are more harmful . Should they be legalised as well .
Really . Sometimes you surprise me with your comments.
#You see you just can't listen to someone who has been there and knows the issue first hand, and your posts indicate this is before they are female.I’m not saying single mother should be left on the street , I’m saying girls got pregnant deliberately to get a council house .
Since when have drugs ever been legal ?
Legalising cannabis , would just be the start .
What about the harder drugs that are more harmful . Should they be legalised as well .
Really . Sometimes you surprise me with your comments.
You are without a doubt a misogynist, but you will never admit it.
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Youcannow: Margaret Tatcher sold the council houses to residing tenants. . They weren’t sold to non residents . They had the choice to buy , or keep renting .
I’m not saying single mother should be left on the street , I’m saying girls got pregnant deliberately to get a council house .
Since when have drugs ever been legal ?
Legalising cannabis , would just be the start .
What about the harder drugs that are more harmful . Should they be legalised as well .
Really . Sometimes you surprise me with your comments.
The number of girls who'd get pregnant just to get a council house is probably in the 0.0001%. I’m not saying single mother should be left on the street , I’m saying girls got pregnant deliberately to get a council house .
Since when have drugs ever been legal ?
Legalising cannabis , would just be the start .
What about the harder drugs that are more harmful . Should they be legalised as well .
Really . Sometimes you surprise me with your comments.
And if a young girl has to resort to that kind of tactic just so she has a roof over her head then that's a huge indictment on her country and how dreadful it must be to live in...a truly shocking state of affairs if that's how far a young woman has to go...
Drugs were legal back (if I remember correctly) way back before the 50's and there were no drugs being sold on the streets or very very little . Addicts were usually limited to the wealthier in society and once they got their supply they could get on with their day.
The same idea is now being used in Portugal . They decided to decriminalise and put on little vans where the addicts can go and get their fix/or whatever and then they get on with their day, it's had a hugely positive effect and many, if not most drug addicts are now able to hold down jobs, pay rent and be a part of socieity. It's working so well other countries are watching it. And I believe Ireland sent a contingent over to see it and get mmore information on it....
Actually, the Irish CMO resigned a few years ago. He wanted the gov to make alcohol and tobacco class A drugs and drop cannabis to class C. but the gov refused. he was dead right too. Cannabis is far less harmful than either and there are no deaths that have been directly attributed to cannabis use. No man has ever smoked a joint and gone home and beaten his children or worse, his wife to death. Cannabis is a known anti inflammatory and is doing wonders for kids who suffer dreadful fits etc. The human brain has THC receptors, which means, at some stage we consumed it , probably quite a lot of it...but yet pharmaceuticals are seriously way more dangerous but are legal and for sale on every supermarket shelf. You don't see criminals selling ibuprofen and making millions out of it do you? if it was made illegal they would though and people would be queing up for them..
No, of course harder drugs shouldn't be legal....but don't blame the addicts for the governments bad governance or their not being able to adapt to a very sick society....harder drugs are just the next step in the legacy of bad managgement by preivious governments...
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blathin: The number of girls who'd get pregnant just to get a council house is probably in the 0.0001%.
And if a young girl has to resort to that kind of tactic just so she has a roof over her head then that's a huge indictment on her country and how dreadful it must be to live in...a truly shocking state of affairs if that's how far a young woman has to go...
Drugs were legal back (if I remember correctly) way back before the 50's and there were no drugs being sold on the streets or very very little . Addicts were usually limited to the wealthier in society and once they got their supply they could get on with their day.
The same idea is now being used in Portugal . They decided to decriminalise and put on little vans where the addicts can go and get their fix/or whatever and then they get on with their day, it's had a hugely positive effect and many, if not most drug addicts are now able to hold down jobs, pay rent and be a part of socieity. It's working so well other countries are watching it. And I believe Ireland sent a contingent over to see it and get mmore information on it....
Actually, the Irish CMO resigned a few years ago. He wanted the gov to make alcohol and tobacco class A drugs and drop cannabis to class C. but the gov refused. he was dead right too. Cannabis is far less harmful than either and there are no deaths that have been directly attributed to cannabis use. No man has ever smoked a joint and gone home and beaten his children or worse, his wife to death. Cannabis is a known anti inflammatory and is doing wonders for kids who suffer dreadful fits etc. The human brain has THC receptors, which means, at some stage we consumed it , probably quite a lot of it...but yet pharmaceuticals are seriously way more dangerous but are legal and for sale on every supermarket shelf. You don't see criminals selling ibuprofen and making millions out of it do you? if it was made illegal they would though and people would be queing up for them..
No, of course harder drugs shouldn't be legal....but don't blame the addicts for the governments bad governance or their not being able to adapt to a very sick society....harder drugs are just the next step in the legacy of bad managgement by preivious governments...
Please don’t quote on assumptions. And if a young girl has to resort to that kind of tactic just so she has a roof over her head then that's a huge indictment on her country and how dreadful it must be to live in...a truly shocking state of affairs if that's how far a young woman has to go...
Drugs were legal back (if I remember correctly) way back before the 50's and there were no drugs being sold on the streets or very very little . Addicts were usually limited to the wealthier in society and once they got their supply they could get on with their day.
The same idea is now being used in Portugal . They decided to decriminalise and put on little vans where the addicts can go and get their fix/or whatever and then they get on with their day, it's had a hugely positive effect and many, if not most drug addicts are now able to hold down jobs, pay rent and be a part of socieity. It's working so well other countries are watching it. And I believe Ireland sent a contingent over to see it and get mmore information on it....
Actually, the Irish CMO resigned a few years ago. He wanted the gov to make alcohol and tobacco class A drugs and drop cannabis to class C. but the gov refused. he was dead right too. Cannabis is far less harmful than either and there are no deaths that have been directly attributed to cannabis use. No man has ever smoked a joint and gone home and beaten his children or worse, his wife to death. Cannabis is a known anti inflammatory and is doing wonders for kids who suffer dreadful fits etc. The human brain has THC receptors, which means, at some stage we consumed it , probably quite a lot of it...but yet pharmaceuticals are seriously way more dangerous but are legal and for sale on every supermarket shelf. You don't see criminals selling ibuprofen and making millions out of it do you? if it was made illegal they would though and people would be queing up for them..
No, of course harder drugs shouldn't be legal....but don't blame the addicts for the governments bad governance or their not being able to adapt to a very sick society....harder drugs are just the next step in the legacy of bad managgement by preivious governments...
There were no official figures regarding the amount of teenage pregnancies to get council accommodation.
I can only go by local council estates, where there was a split between single mothers & others .
Drugs were never legalised in Britain.
It was the immigrants from the Caribbean, who bought drugs over to this country in the 50s .
What good can legalising cannabis do , other that to create a nation of zombies.
We are already seeing the effects of the cannabis generation.
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tomcatty: #You see you just can't listen to someone who has been there and knows the issue first hand, and your posts indicate this is before they are female.
You are without a doubt a misogynist, but you will never admit it.
This is your final warning . You are without a doubt a misogynist, but you will never admit it.
Troll me again and I will report you
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Youcannow: This is your final warning .
Troll me again and I will report you
What on earth do you mean??Troll me again and I will report you
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Youcannow: Please don’t quote on assumptions.
There were no official figures regarding the amount of teenage pregnancies to get council accommodation.
I can only go by local council estates, where there was a split between single mothers & others .
Drugs were never legalised in Britain.
It was the immigrants from the Caribbean, who bought drugs over to this country in the 50s .
What good can legalising cannabis do , other that to create a nation of zombies.
We are already seeing the effects of the cannabis generation.
Legal Heroin Prescriptions: The 'British System' You Never Knew Existed.There were no official figures regarding the amount of teenage pregnancies to get council accommodation.
I can only go by local council estates, where there was a split between single mothers & others .
Drugs were never legalised in Britain.
It was the immigrants from the Caribbean, who bought drugs over to this country in the 50s .
What good can legalising cannabis do , other that to create a nation of zombies.
We are already seeing the effects of the cannabis generation.
Heroin prescription has been a part of Britain’s approach to drugs since the 1920s, but the public is largely ignorant of its existence. The policy was so rare internationally it came to be dubbed “The British System”. The Home Office licenses doctors to prescribe diamorphine to those who do not respond to alternatives like methadone or morphine. Possession of diamorphine, a Class A Drug, would ordinarily mean a prison sentence of up to seven years.
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bodleing2: Legal Heroin Prescriptions: The 'British System' You Never Knew Existed.
Heroin prescription has been a part of Britain’s approach to drugs since the 1920s, but the public is largely ignorant of its existence. The policy was so rare internationally it came to be dubbed “The British System”. The Home Office licenses doctors to prescribe diamorphine to those who do not respond to alternatives like methadone or morphine. Possession of diamorphine, a Class A Drug, would ordinarily mean a prison sentence of up to seven years.
Nowhere does it state that heroin was legalised Heroin prescription has been a part of Britain’s approach to drugs since the 1920s, but the public is largely ignorant of its existence. The policy was so rare internationally it came to be dubbed “The British System”. The Home Office licenses doctors to prescribe diamorphine to those who do not respond to alternatives like methadone or morphine. Possession of diamorphine, a Class A Drug, would ordinarily mean a prison sentence of up to seven years.
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bodleing2: Legal Heroin Prescriptions: The 'British System' You Never Knew Existed.
Heroin prescription has been a part of Britain’s approach to drugs since the 1920s, but the public is largely ignorant of its existence. The policy was so rare internationally it came to be dubbed “The British System”. The Home Office licenses doctors to prescribe diamorphine to those who do not respond to alternatives like methadone or morphine. Possession of diamorphine, a Class A Drug, would ordinarily mean a prison sentence of up to seven years.
Well informed post BodHeroin prescription has been a part of Britain’s approach to drugs since the 1920s, but the public is largely ignorant of its existence. The policy was so rare internationally it came to be dubbed “The British System”. The Home Office licenses doctors to prescribe diamorphine to those who do not respond to alternatives like methadone or morphine. Possession of diamorphine, a Class A Drug, would ordinarily mean a prison sentence of up to seven years.
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Youcannow: Nowhere does it state that heroin was legalised
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bodleing2: It was made illegal in the uk in the mid fifties.
It was never made legal . Maybe as an experimental medical drug, but never recreational.
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Youcannow: It was never made legal .
Maybe as an experimental medical drug, but never recreational.
It wasn't 'made' legal, it was legal before it was made illegal.Maybe as an experimental medical drug, but never recreational.
When heroin was legal
By Jonathan Duffy
BBC News Magazine
As recently as the 1950s, heroin was a popular medicine prescribed by family doctors. But growing fears about the drug's addictiveness led to the start of it becoming criminalised, 50 years ago this week.
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bodleing2: It wasn't 'made' legal, it was legal before it was made illegal.
When heroin was legal
By Jonathan Duffy
BBC News Magazine
As recently as the 1950s, heroin was a popular medicine prescribed by family doctors. But growing fears about the drug's addictiveness led to the start of it becoming criminalised, 50 years ago this week.
I think we’re singing from the same tune bod .When heroin was legal
By Jonathan Duffy
BBC News Magazine
As recently as the 1950s, heroin was a popular medicine prescribed by family doctors. But growing fears about the drug's addictiveness led to the start of it becoming criminalised, 50 years ago this week.
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tomcatty: Well informed post Bod
NewsUKHome News‘Saved from a horrible fate’: Legal heroin prescribed to hundreds of UK drug users, figures reveal
‘Vital’ treatment threatened by cuts to addiction services, risking ‘untold damage’, expert warns
Andy Gregory
Saturday 17 August 2019 19:38
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Hundreds of people addicted to heroin in the UK are benefitting from a free legal supply of the drug, new figures show.
The Independent can reveal that 280 people received a prescription for diamorphine – medical-grade heroin – in 2017-18, via a freedom of information request to Public Health England (PHE) by Release, a drugs charity offering legal advice and support.
Under PHE guidelines, diamorphine is usually offered as a last resort after other forms of treatment, such as methadone and buprenorphine, have proven unsuccessful.
“I’ve seen firsthand how diamorphine could help people recover to the point where they were able to work, experience liberation from a cycle of repeated criminal justice involvement, be present for their families, and have hope where previously there was none,” said Dr Prun Bijral, medical director at the UK’s largest third sector drug treatment provider, Change Grow Live.
But the treatment is “under threat” due to severe cuts to drug services and the planned removal of the Public Health Grant, said Niamh Eastwood, chief executive of Release, which often works with people who fear having their prescription removed.
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tomcatty: #You see you just can't listen to someone who has been there and knows the issue first hand, and your posts indicate this is before they are female.
You are without a doubt a misogynist, but you will never admit it.
I hope the "someone" you're refeerring to isn't me Tom, because I don't have any first hand experience of council houses at all, not even as a child and, as an (almost adult), I bought my first house when I was barely 23 and have always owned my house outright ever since You are without a doubt a misogynist, but you will never admit it.
That doesn't mean I don't understand or have compassion and sympathy for those who weren't/arent so lucky...To be honest I think entitlement to a decent, warm, dry roof over your head is a human right as itsaccess to education, medical care and the means to put food on the table and feed your family....the rest is up for grabs imo.....
Actually, the better society cares for the more vulnerable and poorest, the more peaceful, less fearful, safer and nicer place it is to live.....compare the likes of chronically capitalist US with the likes of the Norway, Sweden , Ireland etc and you will find the latter countries are far nicer places to live, not to mention safer...
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Youcannow: It’s the fat cats who employ people , rather than just throwing good money after bad for the sake of employment.
It’s called capitalism. Learn your economics .
Actually it's the SME's that employ the majority of people not the likes of Amazon, Facebook etc etc...It’s called capitalism. Learn your economics .
And its the self employed small businesses that create the circular economy that keeps small towns and villages busy, thriving, social centres . Take away the small, privately owned businesses from a town and you're left with a typical large English town where the money is drained out and banked off shore by the large multinationals....and it loses it soul....The reason why the towns are dying on their feet....
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blathin: Actually it's the SME's that employ the majority of people not the likes of Amazon, Facebook etc etc...
And its the self employed small businesses that create the circular economy that keeps small towns and villages busy, thriving, social centres . Take away the small, privately owned businesses from a town and you're left with a typical large English town where the money is drained out and banked off shore by the large multinationals....and it loses it soul....The reason why the towns are dying on their feet....
Of course , but the principle is the same . And its the self employed small businesses that create the circular economy that keeps small towns and villages busy, thriving, social centres . Take away the small, privately owned businesses from a town and you're left with a typical large English town where the money is drained out and banked off shore by the large multinationals....and it loses it soul....The reason why the towns are dying on their feet....
Small businesses like my own have empathy for their staff , unlike the big corporations wouldn’t think twice about closing down premises that are non- profitable.
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