Sanctions by the west . (109)
Youcannow:
So my question is .. Are these sanctions going to stop Putins ambitions, or have we shot ourselves in the foot ?
Is there anyone in particular on the forum who you think is qualified to give you a useful answer?So my question is .. Are these sanctions going to stop Putins ambitions, or have we shot ourselves in the foot ?
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Personally, I think Europe have miscalculated the affect sanctioning Russia will have on our own economies, especially Central Europe & in particular Germany, who rely on Russia for gas & oil .
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Youcannow: The sanctions imposed on Putin & the Russian citizens will affect all the world .
We already see energy prices hitting the roof & food shortages will quickly follow.
So my question is .. Are these sanctions going to stop Putins ambitions, or have we shot ourselves in the foot ?
What sanctions , can you list themWe already see energy prices hitting the roof & food shortages will quickly follow.
So my question is .. Are these sanctions going to stop Putins ambitions, or have we shot ourselves in the foot ?
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Circlip: Is there anyone in particular on the forum who you think is qualified to give you a useful answer?
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epirb: What sanctions , can you list them
I’m sure you e read the news . I don’t want to go into detail on the sanction Nato have put apon the Russian state.
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Youcannow: The sanctions imposed on Putin & the Russian citizens will affect all the world .
We already see energy prices hitting the roof & food shortages will quickly follow.
So my question is .. Are these sanctions going to stop Putins ambitions, or have we shot ourselves in the foot ?
yeah, it willWe already see energy prices hitting the roof & food shortages will quickly follow.
So my question is .. Are these sanctions going to stop Putins ambitions, or have we shot ourselves in the foot ?
remember the prohibition ??? or why drugs are ``illegal`` ??? someone makes Ze big bucks on it
in this case, i doubt it will be Russia
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Dedovix: yeah, it will
remember the prohibition ??? or why drugs are ``illegal`` ??? someone makes Ze big bucks on it
in this case, i doubt it will be Russia
Sorry Dido . I undo the understand what all those words put together mean remember the prohibition ??? or why drugs are ``illegal`` ??? someone makes Ze big bucks on it
in this case, i doubt it will be Russia
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Youcannow: Sorry Dido . I DONT understand what all those words put together mean
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Youcannow: The sanctions imposed on Putin & the Russian citizens will affect all the world .
We already see energy prices hitting the roof & food shortages will quickly follow.
So my question is .. Are these sanctions going to stop Putins ambitions, or have we shot ourselves in the foot ?
hope the War stops,The Ukrainians appear to be going through hell at the minute, The Sanctions will hurt Russia, but definitely will also hurt the World,small price to pay if it stops Russia, I believe Britain. America Europe. Israel should keep talking to Russia,Ukraine get them to agree half way at least,Russia has Dangerous weapons and we don't want World War 3.cause there won't be anyone around for ww4.We already see energy prices hitting the roof & food shortages will quickly follow.
So my question is .. Are these sanctions going to stop Putins ambitions, or have we shot ourselves in the foot ?
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Youcannow: Sorry Dido . I undo the understand what all those words put together mean
okay lets try another approach 
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Youcannow: I’m sure you e read the news .
I don’t want to go into detail on the sanction Nato have put apon the Russian state.
I don’t want to go into detail on the sanction Nato have put apon the Russian state.
Youcannow: I’m sure you e read the news .
I don’t want to go into detail on the sanction Nato have put apon the Russian state.
I read talk of sanctions but its fake . A few boats grabbed for the camera's , building of a pipeline been stopped (or has it ) thats not being used yet . Russia kicked from using Swift , which they are still using . Problem was supposed to be over in 3 days with a new Ukrainian government blowing kisses world wide instantly recognized by some countries and grudgingly by the rest , not so easy when those sold out want to fight . The sanctions have been show to be fake because of the time scale .I don’t want to go into detail on the sanction Nato have put apon the Russian state.
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Lockdown2122: hope the War stops,The Ukrainians appear to be going through hell at the minute, The Sanctions will hurt Russia, but definitely will also hurt the World,small price to pay if it stops Russia, I believe Britain. America Europe. Israel should keep talking to Russia,Ukraine get them to agree half way at least,Russia has Dangerous weapons and we don't want World War 3.cause there won't be anyone around for ww4.
I’m not sure I believe all the hysteria that surrounds the possibility of a world war . Putin may have his critics, but we are not helping the situation by throwing fuel on the fire.
After reading how aggressive our governments have become, especially when we have no ethic ties with Ukrainian , I wonder if they really care about the implications this conflict will have on the ordinary people .
Sometimes I question the motives by Nato.
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Dedovix: okay lets try another approach
I wasn’t planning on living forever and I don’t want to be left with having to rebuild a world of anything stupid happened!------ This thread is Archived ------
epirb: I read talk of sanctions but its fake . A few boats grabbed for the camera's , building of a pipeline been stopped (or has it ) thats not being used yet . Russia kicked from using Swift , which they are still using . Problem was supposed to be over in 3 days with a new Ukrainian government blowing kisses world wide instantly recognized by some countries and grudgingly by the rest , not so easy when those sold out want to fight . The sanctions have been show to be fake because of the time scale .
Well , that’s my point . Russia has been virtually cut off from the west & without trading , how can than help us, when we rely so much on Russia for energy . If anything, it will affect the west more than Russia itself .
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Youcannow: Well , that’s my point . Russia has been virtually cut off from the west & without trading , how can than help us, when we rely so much on Russia for energy .
If anything, it will affect the west more than Russia itself .
Virtually maybe but in reality not one drop of oil nor a cubic meter of gas has been sanctioned and its being paid for using Swift . There is talk of sanctions which is driving the market at western expense while financing Putin's war with a bonus caused by sanction talk .If anything, it will affect the west more than Russia itself .
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epirb: Virtually maybe but in reality not one drop of oil nor a cubic meter of gas has been sanctioned and its being paid for using Swift . There is talk of sanctions which is driving the market at western expense while financing Putin's war with a bonus caused by sanction talk .
So we are in agreement then . Putin made provisions for this conflict , but unfortunately, it took the west by surprise & it’s this uncertainty that’s caused the west to panic.
Where was our superior intelligence . How did we misjudge the situation when we knew Putin was going to invade ?
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Youcannow: The sanctions imposed on Putin & the Russian citizens will affect all the world .
We already see energy prices hitting the roof & food shortages will quickly follow.
So my question is .. Are these sanctions going to stop Putins ambitions, or have we shot ourselves in the foot ?
Putin's no fool..himself and China have been buying up gold for years...he's also reduced Russia's dependance on foreign funding to pretty much zero...has increased Russia's debt/GDP to just 18%. Alongside China and a few other countries they have set up CIP's (the althernative to SWFT - must be at least 7 year old by now). He's built up his military from nothing to literally superpower proportions...gives a huge % of GDP to military (for good reason). He's developed really good relations with China, Iran, Turkey, and many other countires that try to keep it quiet..e.g Germany...and he really looks after his people in the way a leader should....We already see energy prices hitting the roof & food shortages will quickly follow.
So my question is .. Are these sanctions going to stop Putins ambitions, or have we shot ourselves in the foot ?
The isolation and sanctions might sting a bit,but he's been preparing for this for almost his whole presidency....
I remember years ago at some G7 meeting how civil he was...and absolutely everyone of the western leaders were rude, snide and pretty much ignored him...he held his head high though and always spoke to them with respect..he's been asking them for years to work with him...but no....
Will these sanctions hurt? emotionally yes...financially no....
They WILL hurt us though....
Nickel is already up 84% today....
The home builders index is falling..
Merck etc are refusing to transport Russian goods
The Bosphorus Straits are controlled by Turkey (Ergdogan)..and he won't upset Putin/Russia...
Oil/gas...elaboration not needed..
Ukraine supplies 12% of the world's calorific content...
China had to slaugher millions of pigs last year and they supplied more pork to the world than the rest of theworld put together....They're expecting a poor harvest this year so have been buying up all sorts of left over grains/foods from all over the world...and russia is their biggest trade partner after the US (if memory serves..)...
Because of all the problems the banks can't put up interest rates = no control over inflation...
OH we in the west are going to suffer alright....
And while the people are suffering ...the governments are funding wars they can't afford and letting their own people go cold and hungry....
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Sure there was act of god outside the embassy in Dublin today
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Youcannow: The sanctions imposed on Putin & the Russian citizens will affect all the world .
We already see energy prices hitting the roof & food shortages will quickly follow.
So my question is .. Are these sanctions going to stop Putins ambitions, or have we shot ourselves in the foot ?
It's going to hurt Russia but I think it might be playing into his hands. I don't know if the Russians are going to join Putin in his bunker or not. They might intelligently blame Putin or become even more morbid and vindictive and enamoured by a charismatic strongmanWe already see energy prices hitting the roof & food shortages will quickly follow.
So my question is .. Are these sanctions going to stop Putins ambitions, or have we shot ourselves in the foot ?
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We already see energy prices hitting the roof & food shortages will quickly follow.
So my question is .. Are these sanctions going to stop Putins ambitions, or have we shot ourselves in the foot ?