US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza (100)

Dec 13, 2023 10:59 AM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Youcannow: Let me tell you what’s it’s like being on the receiving end of ethic cleansing.
Being invaded by a superpower & having your land take over.
Why , because we wanted our independence from an occupier.
Yes we paid heavily, with thousands of people killed & loosing half the island , but with the half country we still have, we’ve become one of the most prosperous countries in Europe.
Why , because we have our freedom to govern.
so,how come you're cheering for the very side that would love to do another Cyprus to Israel?
Dec 13, 2023 11:09 AM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Conrad73: so,how come you're cheering for the very side that would love to do another Cyprus to Israel?
I’m not cheering on any side .
War has rules & indiscriminate bombing of innocent civilians & holding a whole country hostage is not part of the rules .
It was always going to be a difficult operation & many soldiers may be sacrificed as a result, but what people are objecting to is the way they’ve gone about it .
Dec 13, 2023 11:11 AM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Conrad73: and how do you know the Bombing is indiscriminate?
Because Pallywood told you so?
If you want to turn a blind eye to the innocent civilians killed & the suffering, then you’re just kidding yourself.
If the IDF have nothing to hide , why won’t they let the world media in ?
Dec 13, 2023 11:22 AM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Youcannow: I’m not cheering on any side .
War has rules & indiscriminate bombing of innocent civilians & holding a whole country hostage is not part of the rules .
It was always going to be a difficult operation & many soldiers may be sacrificed as a result, but what people are objecting to is the way they’ve gone about it .
Nah.... as long as it's still a fact that we killed bucket loads of civilians targeted
in our heroic fight against evil in 1944/1945
I will be reluctant to call upon Israel to quit
that will mean a half done job.
Dec 13, 2023 11:38 AM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Grandsiozzie: Nah.... as long as it's still a fact that we killed bucket loads of civilians targeted
in our heroic fight against evil in 1944/1945
I will be reluctant to call upon Israel to quit
that will mean a half done job.
Using that logic, you must think it would still be ok to burn selected women to death as witches.
Dec 13, 2023 12:19 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
Ildebrando: To the op..

If you were forced to decide between ..living in Iran or Israel ,which place would you choose?

be honest..
I am not the OP but I can answer this question.
I'd rather live in Iran. And to make it more understandable for the wondering people, I have been there several times, work related.
You know nothing about the place, trust me on this.
Dec 13, 2023 12:20 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
bodleing2: Same old, same old.....if you voice your disquiet about the apparent genocide being carried out in Gaza, you must be pro Hamas and anti semetic.
If you join a march calling for peace, you're part of a hate march. This kind of narrative is getting old and boring.
You know, Bod, some lives matter more than others. sigh
Dec 13, 2023 12:43 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Israel is doing the dirty work for us.
Why is not UN there disarming Hamas and putting in a UN peace keeping unit?
Dec 13, 2023 12:57 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
Grandsiozzie: Israel is doing the dirty work for us.
Why is not UN there disarming Hamas and putting in a UN peace keeping unit?
No, no, speak for yourself, not US.
Israel is as bad as Hamas right now.
Dec 13, 2023 1:01 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Ok, so what should Israel do according to you ten?
Dec 13, 2023 1:05 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
Grandsiozzie: Ok, so what should Israel do according to you ten?
I said it in a previous post:
"When a body fights a virus, you don't kill the body, you help it fight the virus."
Israel is killing Palestine because of Hamas.
Dec 13, 2023 1:22 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
So how can Israel help Palestine?

What is going on is rough, I see that.
They try help themselves first and gaza pop second
by installing a new leadership that is more Israel friendly.
I admit this might fail and the cost is enormous as we speak.
They might generate hate and hate only, more resistance not less
(rallying around Hamas)
instead of the opposite- I see that risk.

Now if you were in Tel Aviv with power over Knesset (for now)
what would you suggest as next steps for IDF.
And or politically.
Basically what should they do? Israel.

dunno
Dec 13, 2023 1:40 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Ildebrando
IldebrandoIldebrandoTreviso, Veneto Italy2 Threads 27 Posts
Youcannow: What a stupid question to ask .
The surrounding reality meaning attributed by the inner self is related to our internal life experience
Dec 13, 2023 1:49 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Ildebrando
IldebrandoIldebrandoTreviso, Veneto Italy2 Threads 27 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: I am not the OP but I can answer this question.
I'd rather live in Iran. And to make it more understandable for the wondering people, I have been there several times, work related.
You know nothing about the place, trust me on this.
For my fortune I do not know nothing about ...even more I do not know nothing about the former communiesti EU places
Dec 13, 2023 2:22 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
I know one thing about Iran, it was great in 1978.
It can be great again. The people are for the most part lovely.
So I understand her comment. Gaza can be good, West Bank ditto and soforth.
BUT with todays rulers on all those 3.... a change must come.
Dec 13, 2023 4:59 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Grandsiozzie: So how can Israel help Palestine?

What is going on is rough, I see that.
They try help themselves first and gaza pop second
by installing a new leadership that is more Israel friendly.
I admit this might fail and the cost is enormous as we speak.
They might generate hate and hate only, more resistance not less
(rallying around Hamas)
instead of the opposite- I see that risk.

Now if you were in Tel Aviv with power over Knesset (for now)
what would you suggest as next steps for IDF.
And or politically.
Basically what should they do? Israel.
First of all , you should read the 67 peace accord , where the Supreme Court ruling on the 2 state solution was only objected to by the USA . Secondly, if Hamas is destroyed, which nobody, even in the far right Israeli government truly believe, it’s down to the Palestinians to decide who governs their land , not Israel .
Yes Hamas killed an estimated 1, 200 Israelis , which included 50 children . Isreal had killed nearly 20, 000 Palestinians, which includes 7,000 children & many more will die as a result of starvation & illnesses. Do you think anyone in this world would trust an Israeli government to govern Palestine ?
Palestine is unliveable at this present time which begs the question. What will happen to these people after the war is over , assuming there is any one left alive ?
Dec 13, 2023 5:01 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Ildebrando: The surrounding reality meaning attributed by the inner self is related to our internal life experience
What is you life experience in the Middle East ?
Dec 13, 2023 5:07 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: You know, Bod, some lives matter more than others.
That’s a fact .
Biden has spoken and comforted the USA / Israeli citizens, yet the Palestinian Americans who’ve been affected by the war who have lost loved ones were total ignored.
Dec 13, 2023 5:20 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
I think most of you guys here don't understand what is really the problem.
Check out this short clip by a muslim scholar.



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Read my lips and answer this please;

w h a t - s h a l - I s r a e l - d o - n o w ?

When you tell me what they should do about it all,
I will answer back what I think that would lead to.



drinking
Dec 13, 2023 5:32 PM CST US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Grandsiozzie: I think most of you guys here don't understand what is really the problem.
Check out this short clip by a muslim scholar.



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Read my lips and answer this please;

w h a t - s h a l - I s r a e l - d o - n o w ?

When you tell me what they should do about it all,
I will answer back what I think that would lead to.
But you fail to post the clips from Israeli far right extremists, who are now governing the war , yet you post a video clip from an Islamic extremist who has nothing to do with the situation.

The world will not let Israel anywhere near Palestine .
America are losing patience with the strategy & will halt the war within weeks , especially when children & women die of starvation & disease.

For gods sake , have a conscious & empathy for those who are suffering & stop posting ridiculous clips from people not involved in this conflict.
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