US vetoes ceasefire in Gaza (100)
Do you know not one Jew live on the Gaza strip... why is that.
Was it genocide when we killed 100.000 civilians in one night in Tokyo in 1945?
"In the space of a few hours, they dropped 1,667 tons of napalm-filled incendiary bombs on the Japanese capital, killing more than 100,000 people in a single strike, and injuring several times that number. "
It was 'needed' it seems to stop the war.... or was it...
Why is Hamas not giving up now, thereby stopping it all.
You can reach both hands in the air you know... when you lost anyway.
Here is what I would do if I was the leader of Tel Aviv
First I would see this through and try and help the Gazenians finally get a sensible leadership, one you can deal with. If that don't work out
I would build a 1 kilometer wide security ditch around it: a mine field, alligators swimming, barbed wire, drones, flashing lights and the lot.
Then the few roads in and out would be so heavily secured that no machne gun crazy alu-akbar can ever get through. Supply would be sent over on a conveyor belt when the international community insist it should be sent in (it was 500 trucks a day before october this year).
This or....
offer the Hamas leadership an enormous amount of dollars to sell the land to Israel.
Was it genocide when we killed 100.000 civilians in one night in Tokyo in 1945?
"In the space of a few hours, they dropped 1,667 tons of napalm-filled incendiary bombs on the Japanese capital, killing more than 100,000 people in a single strike, and injuring several times that number. "
It was 'needed' it seems to stop the war.... or was it...
Why is Hamas not giving up now, thereby stopping it all.
You can reach both hands in the air you know... when you lost anyway.
Here is what I would do if I was the leader of Tel Aviv
First I would see this through and try and help the Gazenians finally get a sensible leadership, one you can deal with. If that don't work out
I would build a 1 kilometer wide security ditch around it: a mine field, alligators swimming, barbed wire, drones, flashing lights and the lot.
Then the few roads in and out would be so heavily secured that no machne gun crazy alu-akbar can ever get through. Supply would be sent over on a conveyor belt when the international community insist it should be sent in (it was 500 trucks a day before october this year).
This or....
offer the Hamas leadership an enormous amount of dollars to sell the land to Israel.
Grandsiozzie: Do you know not one Jew live on the Gaza strip... why is that.
Was it genocide when we killed 100.000 civilians in one night in Tokyo in 1945?
"In the space of a few hours, they dropped 1,667 tons of napalm-filled incendiary bombs on the Japanese capital, killing more than 100,000 people in a single strike, and injuring several times that number. "
It was 'needed' it seems to stop the war.... or was it...
Why is Hamas not giving up now, thereby stopping it all.
You can reach both hands in the air you know... when you lost anyway.
Here is what I would do if I was the leader of Tel Aviv
First I would see this through and try and help the Gazenians finally get a sensible leadership, one you can deal with. If that don't work out
I would build a 1 kilometer wide security ditch around it: a mine field, alligators swimming, barbed wire, drones, flashing lights and the lot.
Then the few roads in and out would be so heavily secured that no machne gun crazy alu-akbar can ever get through. Supply would be sent over on a conveyor belt when the international community insist it should be sent in (it was 500 trucks a day before october this year).
This or....
offer the Hamas leadership an enormous amount of dollars to sell the land to Israel.
The Jews living in Palestine were expelled because they build settlements on illegal land , just as they are doing right now in the West Bank .Was it genocide when we killed 100.000 civilians in one night in Tokyo in 1945?
"In the space of a few hours, they dropped 1,667 tons of napalm-filled incendiary bombs on the Japanese capital, killing more than 100,000 people in a single strike, and injuring several times that number. "
It was 'needed' it seems to stop the war.... or was it...
Why is Hamas not giving up now, thereby stopping it all.
You can reach both hands in the air you know... when you lost anyway.
Here is what I would do if I was the leader of Tel Aviv
First I would see this through and try and help the Gazenians finally get a sensible leadership, one you can deal with. If that don't work out
I would build a 1 kilometer wide security ditch around it: a mine field, alligators swimming, barbed wire, drones, flashing lights and the lot.
Then the few roads in and out would be so heavily secured that no machne gun crazy alu-akbar can ever get through. Supply would be sent over on a conveyor belt when the international community insist it should be sent in (it was 500 trucks a day before october this year).
This or....
offer the Hamas leadership an enormous amount of dollars to sell the land to Israel.
Youcannow: The Jews living in Palestine were expelled because they build settlements on illegal land , just as they are doing right now in the West Bank .
you better expand some more on your cracked History Bubba!
Youcannow: The Jews living in Palestine were expelled because they build settlements on illegal land , just as they are doing right now in the West Bank .
Ok. I don't buy that argumant since so many Arabs live peacefully side by side with Jews in Israel. Actually 2million of them. So my thought is that the 700.000 Jews on the west bank can live there peacefully as well, and I don't really see why these should be called settlers or occupyers. Can you tell my why the deserve that label? Is it cos they have to secure their own citicens against attacks with gated comminuties and private police forces? (alternativley IDF). Is the west bank really occupied by the socalled settlers Cannow? Or is it just Israelis not leaving like they did Gaza in September 2005. Is it the needed extra security agaist the potential alu-akbars that unfairy make some claim thay are land grabbers with their fences, own shops and scurity(?) when as soon as
the Palestinain governments declear that from now on Israel is accepted as a state and Jews will no longer be "killed where found" they can leve side by side on the West bank too just like over in Israel? Heck.. meybe even Jews could live on the Gaza strip as well...
... bringing jobs, businesses and much needed growth.You're singing an old song that don't even fit to a modern world mister.
Don't fall for the lie that there is no solution.
The solution is that Hamas lay down their weapons, right now.
One more, shorter this time (and I'll try evacuate this thread...instead of occupying it lol):
Make me king of Palestine tomorrow, and..
I'll be happy with 200 grand a year and the harem can be down to 6 instead of the usual dozen
Here is my programme:
1) A f.u letter to Tehran saying our relationship is over.
We're on our own now. We got a nation to build.
2) A letter to Tel Aviv stating- No more hostilites from here, we got our boys under control!
We welcome cooperation going forward. Let's do this!
3) A document saying we accept you / you accept us. Signed.
4) We will not have our own army, we rely on Israels defense.
Make me king of Palestine tomorrow, and..
I'll be happy with 200 grand a year and the harem can be down to 6 instead of the usual dozen
Here is my programme:
1) A f.u letter to Tehran saying our relationship is over.
We're on our own now. We got a nation to build.
2) A letter to Tel Aviv stating- No more hostilites from here, we got our boys under control!
We welcome cooperation going forward. Let's do this!
3) A document saying we accept you / you accept us. Signed.
4) We will not have our own army, we rely on Israels defense.
Grandsiozzie: One more, shorter this time (and I'll try evacuate this thread...instead of occupying it lol):
Make me king of Palestine tomorrow, and..
I'll be happy with 200 grand a year and the harem can be down to 6 instead of the usual dozen
Here is my programme:
1) A f.u letter to Tehran saying our relationship is over.
We're on our own now. We got a nation to build.
2) A letter to Tel Aviv stating- No more hostilites from here, we got our boys under control!
We welcome cooperation going forward. Let's do this!
3) A document saying we accept you / you accept us. Signed.
4) We will not have our own army, we rely on Israels defense.
So you’re happy for apartheid to continue? Make me king of Palestine tomorrow, and..
I'll be happy with 200 grand a year and the harem can be down to 6 instead of the usual dozen
Here is my programme:
1) A f.u letter to Tehran saying our relationship is over.
We're on our own now. We got a nation to build.
2) A letter to Tel Aviv stating- No more hostilites from here, we got our boys under control!
We welcome cooperation going forward. Let's do this!
3) A document saying we accept you / you accept us. Signed.
4) We will not have our own army, we rely on Israels defense.
You seem to be missing the point .
Hamas is a terrorist/freedom movement. ( whatever side of the coin you believe in )
The only reason it was created was because Palestine is an occupied land .
This is not a war . It’s a massacre/genocide.
War is not going to solve anything, other than to create more misery , which will radicalise future generations, as proved in countless previous wars .
@Bluefish.
There is no hate in Israel nor in their children.
But there is a bit too much on the other side, even if it's not as widespread as media might indicate.
I actually think the average Palsetinian is pretty fed up with Hamas rule,
and not too pleased about Fatah rule also.
But what can you do when all you're being fed is the narrative you present.
I'm glad you feel for me, thank you.
There is no hate in Israel nor in their children.
But there is a bit too much on the other side, even if it's not as widespread as media might indicate.
I actually think the average Palsetinian is pretty fed up with Hamas rule,
and not too pleased about Fatah rule also.
But what can you do when all you're being fed is the narrative you present.
I'm glad you feel for me, thank you.
Bluefish22: Yes, Israels true intentions is is what is concerning. Its pretty obvious they want to destroy and kill every living thing in Gaza, so that they can take over and claim it as Israeli territory, Terra Nullus.
Its very disheartening that a people who were persecuted themselves now persecute another, and claim anti-semitism if anyone speaks out. As has happened for decades. Its not anti-semitism to speak out about Israeli humanitarian illegalism, Israel is a country. Just like any other. And should be held accountable, or stopped from barbarism by the UN. But the US thinks otherwise. And voted against a ceasefire. Because they sell weapons to Israel. The US and Israel I think are planning on waiting till of Gaza is destroyed and killed, and hoping the world will just forget about it, and everyone will get ack to tiktok and facebook and carry on as usual.
PS Social media was created for just such that way, so keep the little people distracted so they just dont care. Tool of war, world control.
Its very disheartening that a people who were persecuted themselves now persecute another, and claim anti-semitism if anyone speaks out. As has happened for decades. Its not anti-semitism to speak out about Israeli humanitarian illegalism, Israel is a country. Just like any other. And should be held accountable, or stopped from barbarism by the UN. But the US thinks otherwise. And voted against a ceasefire. Because they sell weapons to Israel. The US and Israel I think are planning on waiting till of Gaza is destroyed and killed, and hoping the world will just forget about it, and everyone will get ack to tiktok and facebook and carry on as usual.
PS Social media was created for just such that way, so keep the little people distracted so they just dont care. Tool of war, world control.
Is that why they moved out of Gaza in '05,made it "Judenrein,left all sorts of Business-Opportunities for the Gazans,which they trashed, and sent Rockets into Israel instead?
Conrad73: Is that why they moved out of Gaza in '05,made it "Judenrein,left all sorts of Business-Opportunities for the Gazans,which they trashed, and sent Rockets into Israel instead?
They didn't move out, they just took the barbed wire fences another metre behind the border.Your ignorance betrays you. If you dont understand the history dont start trying to join the conversation.
You are a zionist yourself, so lets just leave it to the actual thinking people please, for this discussion.
Bluefish22: Yes, Israels true intentions is is what is concerning. Its pretty obvious they want to destroy and kill every living thing in Gaza, so that they can take over and claim it as Israeli territory, Terra Nullus.
Its very disheartening that a people who were persecuted themselves now persecute another, and claim anti-semitism if anyone speaks out. As has happened for decades. Its not anti-semitism to speak out about Israeli humanitarian illegalism, Israel is a country. Just like any other. And should be held accountable, or stopped from barbarism by the UN. But the US thinks otherwise. And voted against a ceasefire. Because they sell weapons to Israel. The US and Israel I think are planning on waiting till of Gaza is destroyed and killed, and hoping the world will just forget about it, and everyone will get ack to tiktok and facebook and carry on as usual.
PS Social media was created for just such that way, so keep the little people distracted so they just dont care. Tool of war, world control.
The fact remains . The USA Vito has given Israel the license to kill thousands more innocent civilians.Its very disheartening that a people who were persecuted themselves now persecute another, and claim anti-semitism if anyone speaks out. As has happened for decades. Its not anti-semitism to speak out about Israeli humanitarian illegalism, Israel is a country. Just like any other. And should be held accountable, or stopped from barbarism by the UN. But the US thinks otherwise. And voted against a ceasefire. Because they sell weapons to Israel. The US and Israel I think are planning on waiting till of Gaza is destroyed and killed, and hoping the world will just forget about it, and everyone will get ack to tiktok and facebook and carry on as usual.
PS Social media was created for just such that way, so keep the little people distracted so they just dont care. Tool of war, world control.
Conrad73: Interesting that you are tooting in the same horn as the Gang who stole half of your Homeland!
Yes Henry Kissinger has a lot to answer for .Grandsiozzie: One more, shorter this time (and I'll try evacuate this thread...instead of occupying it lol):
Make me king of Palestine tomorrow, and..
I'll be happy with 200 grand a year and the harem can be down to 6 instead of the usual dozen
Here is my programme:
1) A f.u letter to Tehran saying our relationship is over.
We're on our own now. We got a nation to build.
2) A letter to Tel Aviv stating- No more hostilites from here, we got our boys under control!
We welcome cooperation going forward. Let's do this!
3) A document saying we accept you / you accept us. Signed.
4) We will not have our own army, we rely on Israels defense.
There was a peace deal signed during Arafats term , before the far right Israelis assassinated their then PM & tore up the deal .Make me king of Palestine tomorrow, and..
I'll be happy with 200 grand a year and the harem can be down to 6 instead of the usual dozen
Here is my programme:
1) A f.u letter to Tehran saying our relationship is over.
We're on our own now. We got a nation to build.
2) A letter to Tel Aviv stating- No more hostilites from here, we got our boys under control!
We welcome cooperation going forward. Let's do this!
3) A document saying we accept you / you accept us. Signed.
4) We will not have our own army, we rely on Israels defense.
Youcannow: There was a peace deal signed during Arafats term , before the far right Israelis assassinated their then PM & tore up the deal .
It's hard to believe martyr Arafats agreed to any peace deal. He always believed he would be assassinated by PLO if he did that. 
sdarlagg: It's hard to believe martyr Arafats agreed to any peace deal. He always believed he would be assassinated by PLO if he did that.
It is well documented. The deal was done in the USA . It only takes a little click on google & you can read all the facts .
Ever heard of the Oslo Accords ?
Bluefish22: They didn't move out, they just took the barbed wire fences another metre behind the border.
Your ignorance betrays you. If you dont understand the history dont start trying to join the conversation.
You are a zionist yourself, so lets just leave it to the actual thinking people please, for this discussion.
Understand history?! Ah soYour ignorance betrays you. If you dont understand the history dont start trying to join the conversation.
You are a zionist yourself, so lets just leave it to the actual thinking people please, for this discussion.
thinking people ?,There are few, unfortunately that's not you!
salamuna: Understand history?! Ah so
thinking people ?,There are few, unfortunately that's not you!
So , have you come in this thread to insult, or is there any substance in your reply ?thinking people ?,There are few, unfortunately that's not you!
I don't trust Palestinians. They lie and play victim. No dicipline or work ethics that I've seen.
Responsibility, was that word taken out of school books and replaced with Jihad?
This zionist argument don't impress me.
There can be good reasons to be a hardliner when your oppoinent is like I describe above.
Still, unlike with the "leadership" of gaza/w.b, them Israelis can be negotiated with.
With other words, Tel Aviv can hold their horses (zionist hardliners)
if the majority there are in position to make a good lasting deal that will create
forward motion. This I'm sure about.
So the lack of will or ability is on the Palestinian side.
Anybody here can tell me why the Palestinians can not ever seem to
step away from the trigger happy rhetoric?
Responsibility, was that word taken out of school books and replaced with Jihad?
This zionist argument don't impress me.
There can be good reasons to be a hardliner when your oppoinent is like I describe above.
Still, unlike with the "leadership" of gaza/w.b, them Israelis can be negotiated with.
With other words, Tel Aviv can hold their horses (zionist hardliners)
if the majority there are in position to make a good lasting deal that will create
forward motion. This I'm sure about.
So the lack of will or ability is on the Palestinian side.
Anybody here can tell me why the Palestinians can not ever seem to
step away from the trigger happy rhetoric?
The enemy of the Jewish population is not hamas but the zionists .
Palestinians & Jews lived side by side for hundreds of years before the Zionist movement took over the land and created the now Israel state .
The old rabbis said this would be a disaster & there will never be peace & they were proved correct .
Palestinians & Jews lived side by side for hundreds of years before the Zionist movement took over the land and created the now Israel state .
The old rabbis said this would be a disaster & there will never be peace & they were proved correct .
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Once all the Palestinians of Gaza are killed, from bombing, ensuing starvation or illness from having no shelter, heating, food or water....is it genocide then? Do we wait for that?