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Apr 15, 2007 4:58 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
gillyloves69
gillyloves69gillyloves69london, Greater London, England UK1,533 Threads 7 Polls 7,359 Posts
instead of providing more mental institutions for people with drinking and gambling problems ?
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Apr 15, 2007 5:02 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
its a common concept banking on sin to improve the economy.

can legalized prostition be that far off?

what other sins are promoted and encouraged by the powers that be to fill their coffers with gold.
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Apr 15, 2007 6:06 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
well .. by this action Goverment helps to get more clientele for mental instituations and such.

So let's say it is 50/50 for three parties: Goverment, Owners of Casinos and Doctors conversing
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Apr 15, 2007 6:35 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
What I meant by my post ... People who get over board with gambling are their own worst enemies. They are addicted ( due to be weak, willingless ... Gambling is NOT a deseases)

If there will be no legal Casinos ..they will gamble in underground houses and situation may be even worse.

Thus I would say Goverment and owners of Casinos do not responsible for their actions. At least gamblers are under some sort of control. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.conversing
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Apr 15, 2007 6:53 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
Rebel_Yell
Rebel_YellRebel_YellRipley, Mississippi USA1 Threads 46 Posts
I understand what you're getting at, but do understand what I'm pointing out. Government is exploiting a human weakness to acrue power. That is wrong. The way I see it is that gambling should be made legal period, but only in the form of private games. The licensing of casinos, for the explicit purpose of taxation only empowers government, and organized crime. If you study history, you will find that government and organized crime have *always* had a very close relationship, even though it may appear (on the surface) to be an adverse relationship. Regardless, both organized crime and government are empowered, and both exploit a human weakness. In regards to organized crime that is to be expected, but in regards to government it is the antithesis of what government is *supposed* to do.

Again, I know what you're getting at, but the solution is to completly legalize gambling (except for organized casino gambling) and take government (and organized crime) completely out of the picture.
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Apr 15, 2007 7:00 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
highfidelity
highfidelityhighfidelityEurope, Lower Saxony Germany37 Threads 2,287 Posts
But gambeling is a recognized addiction and illness such as drugs and alcohol .. confused
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Apr 15, 2007 7:17 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
Rebel_Yell
Rebel_YellRebel_YellRipley, Mississippi USA1 Threads 46 Posts
It's not an illness, that's psychobable. It's a human weekness, and it can be controlled *if* the individual wants to control it. Calling it an illness is giving one license to submit to their weakness. I know, I've got a number of relatives that are *addicted* to gambling, and they cite that it's an *illness* all the time. I've gambled myself, and while I enjoyed it at the time, and lost every red cent I had, when it was over I realized that it was *bad*, *very bad*, and I quit going to the casinos because of that (it only took two times). My relatives though, they could quit, but they don't want to because it's *fun*. The end result is what the Romans called bread & circus. In other words a completely hedonistic society. People so focused on having fun that they don't care about anything else. It's a weekness not an illness.
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Apr 15, 2007 7:48 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
jorielly
joriellyjoriellybelfast, Antrim Ireland1 Threads 19 Posts
gambling is the root of all evil yay
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Apr 15, 2007 8:05 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
It is a physical addiction as with a lot of substances (and pleasurable activates) the excitement of gambling releases dopamine into the brain gambling is in effect a drug and like all drugs certain people will become addicted threw misuse this does not mean that the rest of us should be banned from perusing said activity just because others get themselves into trouble. professor
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Apr 15, 2007 8:12 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
biggdave1969
biggdave1969biggdave1969birmingham england, UK43 Threads 1,219 Posts
yeah i agree with all this casino thing its called enjoyment if people want to spend there money and have a good time then that is ok with me i own a casino and life is good people come to enjoy them selves its called changes if the government want to allow more casino's i would welcome it most gladly we are all out to make a living so why not the world is changing everyday life goes on so do enjoy it while you can yay
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Apr 15, 2007 8:14 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
Rebel_Yell
Rebel_YellRebel_YellRipley, Mississippi USA1 Threads 46 Posts
It's not an addiction. The lack of ability to control one's gambling is the result of a lack of will and nothing more. Like I said, I've gambled, and loved it while I was doing so, I recognized that it was *not* a good thing, and despite the fact that I enjoyed it I've refused to allow myself to go back. Anyone that does not has only a lack of will to blame, and nothing more.
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Apr 15, 2007 8:24 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
The condition of being habitually or compulsively occupied with or or involved in something.
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Apr 15, 2007 8:39 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
Rebel_Yell
Rebel_YellRebel_YellRipley, Mississippi USA1 Threads 46 Posts
Pleasure, all pleasure, is caused by brain chemistry no exceptions. The lack of ability to resist the temptation of pleasure, especially unhealthy pleasure is a result of a lack of will and nothing more. I know the shrinks have gone to extrodinary lengths to convince people that they are not responsible for their actions, but despite that they are.

I reckon I was lucky in college because my psychology professor was honest enough to admit, to the whole class, that psychology, and especially psychitary are bogus professions, and in part because of that, I can see through the psychobable the psychologists & psychiatrists inflict upon the world.
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Apr 15, 2007 8:45 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
"I know the shrinks have gone to extrodinary lengths to convince people that they are not responsible for their actions"

No shrink worth their diploma would do that
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Apr 15, 2007 8:53 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
Bravo ... great post.

I have had friends ... who was trying to blame every single one for them loosing everything at Casinos. But hey ... Hellooo! Be realistic ... It is always our choice To gamble or not To gamble. The same with alcohol and other c0-called pleasures.


And yes, without any doubts that Gambling business along with the other kicking adrenalin activities are in a very tight contact with Goverment. It is always was and always will be.


We have to have more professors like yours.wine

There are so much amuzing things to watch, to see, to play with ... screw Gambling Go see the World. Get yourself busy

peace
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Apr 15, 2007 9:22 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
Rebel_Yell
Rebel_YellRebel_YellRipley, Mississippi USA1 Threads 46 Posts
Thank'ee Ma'am,

I'm glad someone can see the point I'm trying to make. Perhaps you have to have been around long enough, or seen enough to be able to see it. I don't know, but unfortunately all too many people are willing to believe anything someone with title (Phd. or whatever) attached to their name has to say. They don't take into consideration that people with titles are just people too, and subject to the same weaknesses they are subject to including greed. People should be taught to be far more sceptical of the motives of others.
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Apr 15, 2007 10:07 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
Rebel_Yell
Rebel_YellRebel_YellRipley, Mississippi USA1 Threads 46 Posts
You Sir, are at best a villian, and reprehensible (I don't care if the govt. gives you license to do so). You prey upon the weakness of others. Nuff said!
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Apr 15, 2007 10:09 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
I agree that for most people gambling is a choice. But there is
a small fraction of people where the actions of gambling overtake
there lives and becomes uncontrolable destructive to there lives.
If a person cannot control it then it is a disease and they need
help. This happens with alcohol also and when they get into
meth its nearly beyond hope to cure. But I have to admit I
would rather go to a casino for a near 50-50 bet at craps table
then buy a lottery ticket where your chance of winning is practicaly
zero.

That's my .02 cents.devil
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Apr 15, 2007 10:31 AM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
Rebel_Yell
Rebel_YellRebel_YellRipley, Mississippi USA1 Threads 46 Posts
It's only uncontrolable *if* they allow it to become uncontrolable. Like I siad, I've gambled, and loved it. I could go into a casino and gamble away every last cent I have, and then go deep into debt. I, however, choose to control my urge, and do not gamble. Others, however, choose not to control themselves. That is their choice though, it's not an illness. It's just like drinking, I can take it or leave it. It does not bother me in the least one way or the other. For the present, I choose to drink just before I go to bed because it puts me to sleep rather quickly. However, it does not bother me in the least not to drink. It only takes me a little longer to get to sleep if I don't have a couple of drinks beforehand.

People have been taught for a very long time now that they are *not* responsible for their acitons. That is a result of the philosophy of secular humanism, which unfortunately took root in the early 1900's and has come to full bloom in the present.

It's unfortunate for us all, but it's a fact. Secular humanism is what is driving *all* current events, that and economics.
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Apr 15, 2007 1:06 PM CST is it right that the goverment is allowing them to built new super casinos for people to loose money
Rebel_Yell
Rebel_YellRebel_YellRipley, Mississippi USA1 Threads 46 Posts
Well, you caught me as I was just about to hit the hay (should have a long time ago, but I got caught up in posting), but I'll give you some general observations real quick.

Y'all are, and have been about 20 years ahead of us in going into a total police state. That gap is now closing rapidly though due in large part to the rogue administration in power now.

Y'all have a nearly perfect surveillance society from the news I can gleam from over there, cameras everywhere. No privacy, no protection from the whims of government.

Y'all are denied the right to free speach, the right to bear arms, the right to self defense, and most likely many more rights as well.

Again, you are just years ahead of us, and we are going in the same direction like an out of control locomotive.
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