Going to Heaven or staying here ? ( Archived) (231)

Jun 25, 2007 2:13 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
HzChld
HzChldHzChldSomewhere in the middle, Oklahoma USA55 Threads 2,779 Posts
Oops..Im sorry Chrissy...I didn't read well and answered for you....uh oh hug
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Jun 25, 2007 2:16 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
chrissy87
chrissy87chrissy87Findlay, Ohio USA38 Threads 998 Posts
Haven't heard of that one.Is it FM or AM?
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Jun 25, 2007 2:17 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
HzChld
HzChldHzChldSomewhere in the middle, Oklahoma USA55 Threads 2,779 Posts
It is FM...It is part of KLOVE also somehow...confused
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Jun 25, 2007 2:18 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
NMKeith74
NMKeith74NMKeith74Albuquerque, New Mexico USA11 Threads 281 Posts
I'll check it out, I wonder if it's the same as our KLight out here. We have two radio stations. Klight and The Connection. I go to Calvary of ABQ. and The Connection's studio is at the Church, it's pretty awesome, I believe it's only state wide.
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Jun 25, 2007 2:19 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
chrissy87
chrissy87chrissy87Findlay, Ohio USA38 Threads 998 Posts
sounds good I'll have to check it out.Thanks!!
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Jun 25, 2007 2:20 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
HzChld
HzChldHzChldSomewhere in the middle, Oklahoma USA55 Threads 2,779 Posts
You are very welcome. They have online chat there as well. Its pretty kewl.
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Jun 25, 2007 6:19 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
quiescent
quiescentquiescentsomewhere, USA19 Threads 1,199 Posts
I think we are all living in a dream world and none of this is real, anyway.

I think Jesus would laugh at all this notoriety. (used as a definition as: widely known)

I don't think He intented for religions to be based after Him. I believe His intentions
were to show us a way to become 'enlightened'. That He is an 'enlightened Master'
and that we all can do just as He can or could do if we also wished to do so. He
demonstrated to the masses that if one 'believed in or had faith enough in' they could
do all the same things as He. I believe that we all are given free will to make choices
in this dream world and that a powerful creator of all would not give us free will and
then turn right around and judge us for what we choose to do. I do think we have creative
minds and that many have chosen to go along with a mass consciousness of different
types of religions to give them some sort of meaning in their life instead of creating
ideas of their own.

You can pray for me and bless me, now.
I believe in the never ending 'now' that we are all one in spirit, anyway.
Create your world as you 'see' it.
Best Wishes.
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Jun 25, 2007 9:32 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
quiescent
quiescentquiescentsomewhere, USA19 Threads 1,199 Posts
I find that interesting.
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Jun 25, 2007 11:21 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
cherokeemoon
cherokeemooncherokeemoongrove, Oklahoma USA13 Threads 711 Posts
I totally agree with u.I got on this morning and seen I had missed a lot.But Keith dont u think that we r seeing some of the beginning of Gods wrath now with the weather and the violence?Of course The wars thats going on in the Middle East,I believe and have said all along that Iraq is the beginning of the final war.Israel is the target of all who lives around them and we r hated because we still stand with Israel.I even saw that in news print just recently.I always wondered about how the scripture about how the days would be shortened for the elects sake(church).When the earthquake hit off of Sumratra,I first heard them say they thought it was so violent that it moved the earth off its axis.The next day the newswoman said,it has been confirmed.The earth was moved off its axis and because of this our days will be shortened.I couldnt believe my ears.I thought ,so thats how hes going to do it.I appreciate all ur comments. hug
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Jun 25, 2007 11:29 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
cherokeemoon
cherokeemooncherokeemoongrove, Oklahoma USA13 Threads 711 Posts
God Bless u sweet girl,no matter how much people r told,there will be some who refuse to believe.The Bible tells us no one is perfect and as long as we r in this body of flesh we will be imperfect.The bible also tells us the flesh wars against the spirit constantly.Satan can go only as far as God lets him go.And throught the blood of Christ we have also conquered him.Be encouraged and God Bless angel
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Jun 25, 2007 11:38 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
chrissy87
chrissy87chrissy87Findlay, Ohio USA38 Threads 998 Posts
Thanks Cherokee & may God bless you also.

I know exactly what you mean,I feel the spiitual warfare getting stronger & stronger.
I don't know if it's because I'm getting closer to God every day or the fact that satan knows his time is running out & he is trying harder to win souls.Well I've got news for him...
I've already got the truth on my side & nothing will make me stop loving or testifying of his great love & sacrifice.
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Jun 25, 2007 11:50 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
tinymac
tinymactinymachilversum, North Holland Netherlands25 Threads 1,741 Posts
I find it so hard to believe that people still have so much religous conviction

not simply believing in a god but even taking the texts so literally.

Each to his own I guess

A confirmed atheist
peace
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Jun 25, 2007 12:00 PM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
chrissy87
chrissy87chrissy87Findlay, Ohio USA38 Threads 998 Posts
I guess for me,having been brought up in a christian home,it's hard to understand how someone can come to the conclusian that God doesn't exist.
As an athiest,how do you explain our being here?
I find it hard to believe that we just appeared or evolved.
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Jun 25, 2007 12:07 PM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
tinymac
tinymactinymachilversum, North Holland Netherlands25 Threads 1,741 Posts
Why is it so difficult??

What makes us so special anyway?

We all want to get along together - so do the other creatures on the planet - its just that considering our intelligence we dont half know how to screw it all up!!!

If there was a god, why would he allow it?
Why is it that people like Ghandi and Mandella arnt immortal?
As some kind of mouth piece for god - a means to stear us in the right direction?

What has god done for any of us, in actual fact?
confused
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Jun 25, 2007 12:44 PM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
quiescent
quiescentquiescentsomewhere, USA19 Threads 1,199 Posts
Do we actually think that

pure energy spirit + information ( God ) is

outside ourselves?

Yeah, we rely on our 'egos' too much

and are constantly messed up, but...

when we are 'in touch' with listening to

our feelings....

One says: This is right

One says: This is wrong

We have a pretty good guidence system inside us.
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Jun 25, 2007 1:05 PM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
fahimdhk
fahimdhkfahimdhkDhaka, Bangladesh23 Threads 326 Posts
"Ooh, baby, do you know what that's worth ?
Ooh heaven is a place on earth
They say in heaven love comes first
We'll make heaven a place on earth
Ooh heaven is a place on earth "
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Jun 25, 2007 1:06 PM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
tinymac
tinymactinymachilversum, North Holland Netherlands25 Threads 1,741 Posts
totally agree

god be in our heads and in our understanding - moral concience is handed and toaught to us from the people around us but a person still has the intelligence to choose over right and wrong - which differs depending upon the cultureral values of course!

like - i would not dream of ever eating a pygmy!!!

laugh cheers
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Jun 25, 2007 2:50 PM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
NMKeith74
NMKeith74NMKeith74Albuquerque, New Mexico USA11 Threads 281 Posts
I'm sorry that you feel that way, but yes I am one that takes the Word of God literally in every sense. But as a ex-Satanist that I am, I have seen more then most people and have a awesome testimony of what God has done in my life. My personal testimony has touched many people (family/friends) that knew who I was then and who I am today.

As you said "to each his own"

I think the Bible say's it best. And so that you don't think I'm personally judging you (God knows how we are accused of that) LOL let me quote a couple of Scriptures for you..

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Psa 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works

But as you said "to each his own" right?
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Jun 25, 2007 3:03 PM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
NMKeith74
NMKeith74NMKeith74Albuquerque, New Mexico USA11 Threads 281 Posts
There has always been persecution, temptation, wars, earthquakes etc. Today we experience these in more profound ways. It hits home when people carry guns into high school and colleges across this great country and go on killing sprees. It's a horror that people would fly two jet-liners into the side of the World Trade Center. But these are the beginning of sorrows for sure. But it's nothing in compare to what the Great Tribulation will be about. One great Scripture tells us that in the last days knowledge will be increased. In the last 100 years alone, look how much we as a people have gained knowledge? Spacecrafts, aircrafts, Hubble, forensic medicine, forensic science, forensic pathologist, television, and the Internet. I could go on and on with the knowledge we have learned and became experts in within the last 100 years. This fulfills the prophecy in Daniel

Dan 12:4 But you, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
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Jun 25, 2007 3:04 PM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
tinymac
tinymactinymachilversum, North Holland Netherlands25 Threads 1,741 Posts
Yep each to his own

However, i find it a little over simplified that that those verses from the bible can apply to me or any other 'non-believer'!

look David Koresh - a devout believer but certainly more corrupt than i ever will or have been

oops - getting serious again

lolpeace
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