Going to Heaven or staying here ? ( Archived) (231)

Jun 26, 2007 11:57 PM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
quiescent
quiescentquiescentsomewhere, USA19 Threads 1,199 Posts
Is that a journey or a destination?

What do you do in heaven?


What happens in Hell?


Tell me about it.
Interesting.
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Jun 27, 2007 8:51 PM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
I understand that Jesus uses a Les Paul Jr. Thought He'd be a Strat type.

Paws
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Jun 28, 2007 3:54 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
doctorlove69
doctorlove69doctorlove69london, UK7 Threads 259 Posts
the book of revalation is about the end of the roman army not the end of the world .
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Jun 28, 2007 3:55 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
doctorlove69
doctorlove69doctorlove69london, UK7 Threads 259 Posts
how can you love jesus if you have never met him lol
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Jun 28, 2007 4:03 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
chrissy87
chrissy87chrissy87Findlay, Ohio USA38 Threads 998 Posts
same way I breathe in air...

I can't see it,but I can feel it.

I'd be dead without it just like I'd be without Jesus in my heart.
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Jun 28, 2007 4:12 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
doctorlove69
doctorlove69doctorlove69london, UK7 Threads 259 Posts
sorry chrissy we make our own way in life and jesus plays no part in it .jesus is for the week minded who think that he will help them through hard times in there life.i suppose it works if you have faith in it .
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Jun 28, 2007 4:29 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
I would add ...... Jesus is Like a mental support for people who are in doutb.

<---------- Never in doubt

If I gotta do it ... i will do it. wine



I know that i have two entities or whoever or whatever they are ... they might be Angels of Hell or Angels of Heaven. I do not care really were from are they .... I just know they try to keep myself from troubles.

and i do agree with you Doctor ....... there is no way to love and trust someone without actual meeting with him/her/it/ them ..... and having conversation

peace conversing
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Jun 28, 2007 4:34 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
doctorlove69
doctorlove69doctorlove69london, UK7 Threads 259 Posts
why would you need jesus if you have good friends to help you through bad times. how could you love a person you have never met like jesus or god i think they are made up icons to help the week.besides its religion that is the cause of war and poverty i think the world would be a better place without religion
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Jun 28, 2007 4:35 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
chrissy87
chrissy87chrissy87Findlay, Ohio USA38 Threads 998 Posts
I'm sorry you feel that way.
I'm not weak minded at all.
I know I don't want to spend eternity in Hell,thus I have faith that Jesus did in fact die for our sins.
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Jun 28, 2007 4:50 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
doctorlove69
doctorlove69doctorlove69london, UK7 Threads 259 Posts
jesus died because the romans thought he was a rebel. because of all the people following him and do you know why because of hard times and he gave people hope. he had hundreds of followers in them times it must have worried the romans he died for his own sins not ours.and did you know jesus was on the cross for 3 days it takes over a week to die from crucifiction witch is a fact. after he was taken from the cross and laid out in that cave.his body was cleand with ointments that have healing propertys it says that in the bible and what they were so no miracle there no comming back from the dead as he was not dead from crucifiction was not up there long enough
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Jun 28, 2007 4:51 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
"I know I don't want to spend eternity in Hell"

Chrissy ... but what do you know about Hell?
all your knowledge about Hell as a suffering place is based on books, movies and such ........


Maybe Hell is a place where people are go on living as if they are still on the Earth.

Not a boring enternal vacation in Heaven ......... where poor sinless people suffering from doing NOTHING

I would die in Heaven yawn

peace
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Jun 28, 2007 4:55 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
doctorlove69
doctorlove69doctorlove69london, UK7 Threads 259 Posts
hell is a place called earth
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Jun 28, 2007 5:03 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
That's exactly what i meant.

And I love it here emmensely!

peace yay
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Jun 28, 2007 9:35 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
Quisling
QuislingQuislingDevon, UK1 Threads 211 Posts
Perhaps I could ask a question of all those who have answered that they are definately going to heaven?

Well, what gives you the right to pressume you ARE going to heaven? Surely this is your Gods decision? And do you think it's possible to make certain errors in the time before you ascend, that will comprimise your heaven-bound certainty?

Just a thought. I was led to believe that humility and a lack of presumptuousness are vital qualities in the righteous who do venture up high?

As I said, just a thought. wine
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Jun 28, 2007 9:36 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
khan159
khan159khan159London, Greater London, England UK17 Threads 1,004 Posts
Earth is place which leeds to Hell............
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Jun 28, 2007 10:03 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
Well said! thumbs up
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Jun 28, 2007 10:40 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
johnmarkus
johnmarkusjohnmarkustoronto, Canada34 Threads 1,384 Posts
First a week has seven days in it and weak is spelled W E A K!

Even the weak of mind that believe in Jesus still go through problems the same as those who don't believe in Jesus.
It doesn't matter if you believe in Jesus or not if one doesn't make the effort to pull them self out of the gutter believing or disbelieving isn't going to do a thing.
I would prefer whining to Jesus than to some person who is going to tell me to stop complaining stop whining be a man I would prefer telling Jesus my problems my secrets than telling some person them that will label and tell another the first second he/she wants to feel better or is vindictive.

Even if Jesus were a figment of imagination He is still better than a human beings figment of imagination!

Friend or foe people are social creatures with very weak control over their urge to socialize.
In a spare of a moment drop of a dime people break down no matter how strong they are.

When was the last time you heard of Jesus telling another your secret???
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Jun 28, 2007 10:55 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
quiescent
quiescentquiescentsomewhere, USA19 Threads 1,199 Posts
I don't believe any of us is better than anyone else.

I do believe Jesus came to us to show us what is possible.
That's all.

I don't think He wanted us to start religions around Him.

We could do all the things that Jesus did (or still does).

I think it's interesting that we don't realize that we are all
that -- One Consciousness. Oh well.

Peace
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Jun 28, 2007 10:58 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
johnmarkus
johnmarkusjohnmarkustoronto, Canada34 Threads 1,384 Posts
It doesn't matter what you do here as long as you Believe in Jesus!

In the last moment shortly before death a thief on a cross beside Jesus was told by Jesus he was going to heaven that very night.
All he had to do was believe he never said he believed he told the other thief who Jesus was--his belief saved him nothing other than that did it.

Jesus came to die for our sins to give us a way out of hell because humanity is weak and can not resist sinning it's too powerful!

Even the most holy apparently person in thought is still sinning that alone is enough to sentence them to death in hell.

One can follow the churches all they want thats great the lifestyle isn't too bad but in the bible it was the churches that Jesus was having His problems with not the poor sick and sinful.

Yes in the end even the poor sick and sinful yelled for Jesus"s death but it was started among them by the holy one's from the churches.

Hell is for the disbeliever no matter how great good and well they are doing!!

Heaven is for the believer no matter how many banks murders and crimes they do!!

See like when Jesus came back after three days in a purer form so will the human being be made pure through his belief in Jesus given a new body that will be perfected in the new world the one Jesus promised.
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Jun 28, 2007 11:00 AM CST Going to Heaven or staying here ?
NMKeith74
NMKeith74NMKeith74Albuquerque, New Mexico USA11 Threads 281 Posts
A weak mind is for those that believe in Jesus? Wow, I never heard that.. I've heard of using Jesus as a crutch etc. Tell me, did Sir Issiac Newton have a weak mind? What about Albert Einstein? These were probably the best known scientist and math wiz of our erra. Yet they were devoted Christians.

Here is two quotes from Newton, one of his most famous quotes.

"This most beautiful system The Universe could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being.”

“I can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people.”

It's easy for us just from live day to day going to work, paying bills, going out on the weekends etc. It takes a real mind to connect with God and set yourself about from the rest of the crowd. I beg to differ who has the weak mind.
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