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Dec 12, 2007 6:38 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Control Dramas

Control Dramas, we all know the scenario, we meet someone, ask how they are and Boy, do they tell us!

End of the conversation, we stand drained and they walk off uplifted by the Energy they just sucked from us! Just one example of an infinite number of situations where we lose Energy to others.

James Redfield in his Celestine Prophecy series of books identifies four main personas that we adopt in order to gain Energy.

Aloof, Intimidator, Interrogator and Poor Me. The above example being that of a Poor Me.

Poor Me
concentrates on gaining Energy through sympathy for their perceived ills and will not give up and often resorts to the apportioning of Guilt on to the listener in order to gain the required Energy.

The Intimidator
will bully you, silently threatening through body language, reminding you incessantly of your failings and their possible consequences and also of your dependance upon them for survival. Your subsequent compliance and reliance being the vehicle by which they gain their Energy.

The Interrogator
is similar to the Intimidator, but this individual will use constant and vigorous questioning as their tool to extract their Energy as your attention will always be focussed on what you see as a compulsion to answer their every question.

The Aloof
persona is that which keeps individuals at arms length and conveys a hard to get or mysterious side to the onlooker. This causes you to constantly seek their attention and in doing so the Aloof effortlessly receives the desired Energy.

In all of the above the saying "Where attention goes, Energy flows" applies.

Why do Control Dramas happen?

We all act in particular ways according to our Needs and according to how we have learnt to satisfy those Needs. We enter Control Dramas Unconciously and without Intent in the majority of cases and most of us are horrified when our own Drama is pointed out to us for just that reason! We all seem to have the capability of recognizing just exactly which Persona to adopt to extract the maximum amount of Energy.
Recognition of Control Dramas allows us the opportunity to withdraw and alter our attitudes to Energy Exchanges and also reduce our stress levels considerably in so doing! When we are able to see that the Dramas are not "Personal" it is much easier to deal with them.
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Dec 12, 2007 6:41 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
You for Negotiator....uh oh



grin
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Dec 12, 2007 6:42 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Happy to oblige my friend - though I must stress, I hesitatate to stand in judgment laugh
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Dec 12, 2007 6:44 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
I'm a bully for bullies. innocent
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Dec 12, 2007 6:47 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
well - if you so wish - but I refuse to be intimidated personally grin
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Dec 12, 2007 6:48 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
I think I hesitate too long to see auras blushing laugh
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Dec 12, 2007 6:51 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
Softly_Me
Softly_MeSoftly_MeColumbus, Ohio USA10 Threads 388 Posts
Try flowers. It is incredible. The colors jump at you - they're so bold its almost blinding.

I can't do people which I have been told is good. I guess it can be distracting.

Nice Thread, btw.
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Dec 12, 2007 6:56 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
Detente
DetenteDetenteNorth West, England UK48 Threads 1 Polls 2,742 Posts
Jeez, I can see all four in my behaviour...at different times and in differing measures.

I'm kinda thinking though that you're stressing the extremes in each behaviour type?

I hope so anyway, because I sure like to show an interest in somebody by questioning them on various issues...what makes them tick etc.

Aloof? That's just me until I choose to accept you...then I'm as warm as they come...I think!laugh

Poor me...nope. But naturally, we all have various episodes in our life that are less than savoury, but I only share these when I'm up to it and when prompted. Takes so much energy from me to verbalise!

I suppose I can intimidate...hell yes! But I have to have evaluated the situation and people involved as deeply unpleasant. But even then, I'll attempt to seperate the behaviour displayed from the people manifesting it.

Oh well, interesting topic!cheers
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Dec 12, 2007 6:57 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Then you must not be a bully. wink

laugh


wine
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Dec 12, 2007 7:01 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Im not sure if the feeling I get is an aura or some sort of warning - I know when there is danger though and have a sort of intuition about withdrawing from danger.

But flowers - yep - I am a gardener, went to college for a while to learn more, did the latin too - I love flowers but not sure if that constitutes sime kinda control thingumy hahaha laugh I just feel the peace from them hug
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Dec 12, 2007 7:05 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Re the "Celestine Prophercies", you'd be far better off reading Maurice cottrells "The Mayan Propheries".

The Celestine Prophercies are after all fiction, and in some other interesting material i can let you know about the experiments in the 60's where they basically established through the design of the S.A.T.s test in the states that it was possible to predict responses on upto one million personality types!

Very interesting reading!!
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Dec 12, 2007 7:10 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
I think you make good observations Detente and its good to see that you acknowledge your own place in these dramas but often, control dramas run peoples lives and they never even know - nothing pointed to anybody herepresent but, how many intimidators are actualy aware of the true impact of their decisions - not that I am in the market for quantifying but.............. do they actually know what they are playing at and how their roles affect others - or, as i so often observe in mankind, is self interest their sole driving force dunno
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Dec 12, 2007 7:20 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
but Robbie , Im speakin of the Celestine ones - if you dont want to speak then start a thread on whatever the heck you like - but please dont come onto one of the few i start with unfriendly stuff - you know my heart is true and I simply cannot inderstand why this winds you up - if you want to start a thread, start a thread - dont, please, fill mine with your continual negativity - you are so beginning to bore me with your attacks on anything I say - do you have a prob with the ethoegeneous substances of pre christianity or something - if so hun -get a bloody grip
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Dec 12, 2007 7:21 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
Detente
DetenteDetenteNorth West, England UK48 Threads 1 Polls 2,742 Posts
rolling on the floor laughing

peace
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Dec 12, 2007 7:23 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
mbcasey
mbcaseymbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA68 Threads 7 Polls 16,449 Posts
My life today, I never try to gain energy...I am usually the one offering my energy to others.

However, I have been guilty of the Poor Me control drama recently...for that I apologize.
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Dec 12, 2007 7:26 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Hello, its nice to speak to you - have noticed you around and I like the way you conduct yourself - very commendable - not that Im any sorta judge laugh
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Dec 12, 2007 7:28 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
Been aloof many a times !! dunno
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Dec 12, 2007 7:31 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
hahahaha me too Riya, but the books helped immensely - we can only be what we are today - if we have to continually answer for or yesterdays decisions, we are lost - we learn and move forwards hug
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Dec 12, 2007 7:33 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Robbie, I read the Mayan stuff years ago - your assumption that I hadnt was what fed my reply conversing

and I am here for an antidote to christianity for godsake banana
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Dec 12, 2007 7:40 PM CST Which are You or are You any of these at all
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Good!! It's a good book!! All i was suggesting was a good book to read!!

If you like new age book try the Carlos Castenada books.You might like them.

I wasn't assuming anything by the way, i was making a suggestion!!

It doesnt matter anyway, i wont bother to offer any other reading materials as its a waste of my time, especially if you think its an attack on you personally or somehow negative!!

It was a book suggestion, thats all.dunno
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