Are we really willing to pay to go "Green" ( Archived) (31)

Jan 10, 2008 7:10 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
Munichtexan
MunichtexanMunichtexanBrno, South Moravia Czech Republic24 Threads 195 Posts
Just talked with a buddy in Germany. The reason Solar Electricity in homes is taking off is because the government forces the utilities to "buy the electricity" generated back at a higher price than the home owner pays. But as soon as the government changes this could disappear. What do you think? Are we really willing to "pay" big money to go Green? Just curious. cheers
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Jan 10, 2008 7:18 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
Hellooo wave

Oo I didn't know about the 'buying it back' part.

We have lots of wind turbines here.. (i think they are beatiful to watch).. big giant ones on top of the hills..

and there are lots of homes around with smaller private ones in their gardens etc.

One day (when I move somewhere bigger) I would like to be able to get a turbine myself and I love the idea of harnessing the sun with solar roofing panels.

Ermmm... not that THAT had anything to do with buying it back.. or the government. roll eyes roll eyes but anyway.. laugh
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Jan 10, 2008 8:23 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
Munichtexan
MunichtexanMunichtexanBrno, South Moravia Czech Republic24 Threads 195 Posts
I agree, something really neat about those wind turbines. Especially laying in the grass watching them slowly moving around, feeling the electricity pumping with every rotation smitten
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Jan 10, 2008 8:33 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
Fellfrosch
FellfroschFellfroschLeipzig, Saxony Germany94 Threads 4 Polls 774 Posts
Yes, here in Germany you got more money for getting energy in the public energy-net.
We have also solar cells on the house, but not for energy but for warm water.
If someone put solar cells on the house, the government will pay more as the half of the cost for it. It's a advancement for ecofriendly. The same with all other energy efficiency measures for the house, you got a part payed from the government.

And my energy comes from a green company, only ecofriendly energy. No nuclear, charcoal or oil. And it isn't more expensive as the normal energy.
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Jan 10, 2008 8:35 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing giggle
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Jan 10, 2008 8:38 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
AutumR
AutumRAutumRover looking a meadow, Louth Ireland14 Threads 883 Posts
~~~WoooooHoooooooo!!


Go Germany!!! cheering Go Germany!!cheering Go Germanycheering



Hi Fellfroschwave
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Jan 10, 2008 8:39 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
Hellooo Fell. I have green energy too.. and the same.. it doesn't cost me more.

wave hug
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Jan 10, 2008 8:39 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
Fellfrosch
FellfroschFellfroschLeipzig, Saxony Germany94 Threads 4 Polls 774 Posts
Hi autum! wave
How are you?
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Jan 10, 2008 9:14 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
AutumR
AutumRAutumRover looking a meadow, Louth Ireland14 Threads 883 Posts
~~~Guten.


I little behind in my lessons....spend to much time on CSlaugh
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Jan 10, 2008 9:24 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
firstllight
firstllightfirstllightStrasburg, Virginia USA6 Threads 1 Polls 815 Posts
It is up to government and big business to initiate the changes that will eventually pay us all back in the form of more efficient economical and cleaner energy.

Once the larger masses do this the practice will become the most favorable and acceptable way of doing business. This will effect supply and demand which will make doing business the "green way" affordable for the common man and benefit the entire planet.
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Jan 10, 2008 9:41 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
It sure would be nice to have all things in order, fresh air, all the

wildlife, nothing toxic, and most of all clear blue skys so we can watch

the ICBM's steaking pretty through the clouds one

frosty morning! rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 10, 2008 9:55 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
Fellfrosch
FellfroschFellfroschLeipzig, Saxony Germany94 Threads 4 Polls 774 Posts
No problem,

I have the same problem. laugh
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Jan 10, 2008 11:01 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
diogenes
diogenesdiogenesLongview, Texas USA69 Threads 7 Polls 4,761 Posts
Apparently we're not even will to pay a little bit of money. I watched an interesting documentary called "Who Killed the Electric Car". There was alot of talk about Government, the Automotive Industry, and Major Oil Corporations; but the bottom line is we killed the electric car. Because not enough of us really cared enough to make it a viable option.
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Jan 10, 2008 12:00 PM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
Munichtexan
MunichtexanMunichtexanBrno, South Moravia Czech Republic24 Threads 195 Posts
Ok, lets make it easier - dollars and sense - pulled this off of the internet:

Honda Camry $18, 570 MSRP 22 mpg Hwy
Honda Camry Hybrid $ 25, 200 34 mpg Hwy

So who is willing to pay the extra $7000 ??? Be honest - I had trouble paying $3500 extra for a diesel dancing
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Jan 10, 2008 12:08 PM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
Munichtexan
MunichtexanMunichtexanBrno, South Moravia Czech Republic24 Threads 195 Posts
Ok, this looks a little better pulled this off the EPA page

Toyota Prius (hybrid-electric) 60/51 Hwy/City

But I have no idea how much this one costs. conversing
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Jan 10, 2008 12:11 PM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
Munichtexan
MunichtexanMunichtexanBrno, South Moravia Czech Republic24 Threads 195 Posts
But you gotta admit - this is tempting!!! love

Lamborghini L-147/148 Murcielago (automatic) 9/14 City/Hwy

A real "babe" magnet! grin
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Mar 22, 2008 11:50 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
I am glad to see the thread.

In South East USA, we some problems with some of the alternative electical production systems. Imagine a wind mill farm following a 100+ mph wind hurricane passing. What you would see is a lot broken turbine blades on the ground.

Also we get long periods of time with heavy overcast here. Yes I know....countary to what the Florida Tourism boards tell you to visit sunny Florida. But such overcast reduces the effectiveness of the solar electric systems. They still do place solar cells on the houses here and there is a state lawed utility pay back program on kwa going into the grid system.

The big thing that many here are looking at is the 'thin film' solar cells.
They are low cost, light weight and very efficient in making electricity.
So unlike the heavy solar cells, they are easy to place and will not weight down a roof.

On the electric car. A real question there for most American....that love our big hp vehicles is this. I am passing someone in a electric that I have been using for a time.......its batts are down.......and I am trying to get around a car doing 70 on a two lane road. I pull out to pass the guy, and don't have enough juice to go over 75. This is not a good situation.....as that 18 wheeler coming in the other direction at 75 gets closer and closer and closer.

The electrics and the hybrids have the range to do well. But do they have the horse power to survive on our roads? Where I live.......hemi power dual wheel drive cab trucks are a standard for many. Putting a electric on the road with them is like putting a lamb into a wolf convention. The lamb is not going to like the experience.cheers
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Mar 22, 2008 11:52 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
cutelildevilsmom
cutelildevilsmomcutelildevilsmomportsmouth, New Hampshire USA60 Threads 7,772 Posts
Global Warming is a bunch of malarkey and all this Going Green crap is a con to get money off gullible humans.
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Mar 22, 2008 11:54 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
cutelildevilsmom
cutelildevilsmomcutelildevilsmomportsmouth, New Hampshire USA60 Threads 7,772 Posts
diogenes: Apparently we're not even will to pay a little bit of money. I watched an interesting documentary called "Who Killed the Electric Car". There was alot of talk about Government, the Automotive Industry, and Major Oil Corporations; but the bottom line is we killed the electric car. Because not enough of us really cared enough to make it a viable option.

the electric car was not a viable option to begin with.The hybrid is much more suited to our highways.
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Mar 22, 2008 11:55 AM CST Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Munichtexan: But you gotta admit - this is tempting!!!

Lamborghini L-147/148 Murcielago (automatic) 9/14 City/Hwy

A real "babe" magnet!


The word "Lamborghini" is a babe magnet! Tell a young woman that you worked on a Lamborghini that day.....she will have instant attraction for you. Just don't tell her you work at a car wash.laugh
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