Nepal - Dalai Lama - China (31)
I did not get a chance to read the story, only saw the headlines. Do you have a post?
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Any news, I am out of date.
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Munichtexan: I did not get a chance to read the story, only saw the headlines. Do you have a post?
I havent got a post,
but everyone has means of their own
to watch the News,
and form an opinion
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At least 80 people have been killed in unrest following protests by Tibetans against Chinese rule, the Tibetan government in exile says.
Is this you are concerned about?
Is this you are concerned about?
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The Dalai Lama on Sunday called for an international probe of China's treatment of Tibet, which he said is causing "cultural genocide" of his people.
The exiled spiritual leader of Tibet spoke at a news conference Sunday in Dharmsala, India, two days after violent clashes between pro-autonomy demonstrators and Chinese security forces in the Tibetan capital Lhasa.
A spokesman for the self-declared Tibetan exile government said it has confirmed at least 80 deaths in Friday's violence and that protests were continuing outside the capital on Sunday, further undermining China's hopes of a smooth run-up to the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
Tibet Watch, a group based in Dharamsala, India, told CNN that 34 people have died in the Nwaga County area of Sichuan province in western China.
The dead include women and children, the group said in an e-mail, adding they were killed by Chinese police attempting to stop the protests.
Eight bodies were brought to the Nagaba Kirti monastery, the Tibetan Center for Human Rights and Democracy in Dharamsala told CNN. Of the eight, two are the bodies of monks, the center said.
Another protest took place in Machu County in northwestern China, the group said. It was started by some Tibetan students distributing fliers.
They were later joined by monks and laypeople. During the demonstration, several shops and a security headquarters were burned, Tibet Watch said. An estimated 2,000 Tibetans were using firecrackers in the streets, the group said.
The exiled spiritual leader of Tibet spoke at a news conference Sunday in Dharmsala, India, two days after violent clashes between pro-autonomy demonstrators and Chinese security forces in the Tibetan capital Lhasa.
A spokesman for the self-declared Tibetan exile government said it has confirmed at least 80 deaths in Friday's violence and that protests were continuing outside the capital on Sunday, further undermining China's hopes of a smooth run-up to the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
Tibet Watch, a group based in Dharamsala, India, told CNN that 34 people have died in the Nwaga County area of Sichuan province in western China.
The dead include women and children, the group said in an e-mail, adding they were killed by Chinese police attempting to stop the protests.
Eight bodies were brought to the Nagaba Kirti monastery, the Tibetan Center for Human Rights and Democracy in Dharamsala told CNN. Of the eight, two are the bodies of monks, the center said.
Another protest took place in Machu County in northwestern China, the group said. It was started by some Tibetan students distributing fliers.
They were later joined by monks and laypeople. During the demonstration, several shops and a security headquarters were burned, Tibet Watch said. An estimated 2,000 Tibetans were using firecrackers in the streets, the group said.
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The demonstrators, who on Friday set fire to Chinese-owed shops and hurled rocks at local police, have been penned into an area of the old town by government forces.
The authorities in Tibet have urged the protesters to hand themselves in by midnight on Monday, promising leniency to those who surrender.
Meanwhile, there were reports of protests by Tibetans in other parts of China.
About 200 protesters threw petrol bombs and burned down a police station in Sichuan province, a police officer told Reuters.
The authorities in Tibet have urged the protesters to hand themselves in by midnight on Monday, promising leniency to those who surrender.
Meanwhile, there were reports of protests by Tibetans in other parts of China.
About 200 protesters threw petrol bombs and burned down a police station in Sichuan province, a police officer told Reuters.
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I hope you don't mind Uli, but here is a link to a CNN story that has video links.
Yes, it's terribly tragic.
Yes, it's terribly tragic.
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dcj22: I hope you don't mind Uli, but here is a link to a CNN story that has video links.
it's terribly tragic.
it's terribly tragic.
Thanks Dana
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It may be just a matter of time before the Chinese Secret Service or some power in the West turns him over to the Chinese to use him as hostage to calm Tibet down, or especially if it will help boost trade or balance of debt payments of international loans are concerned. Either way, that will be, effectively the end of the Dalai Lama and Tibetan revolts, and no Western power will do anything more than lodge protests. I am surprised somewhat, that China had not eliminated him years ago as no one protests their Secret Service assassination squads running loose all over the world...
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solitare: It may be just a matter of time before the Chinese Secret Service or some power in the West turns him over to the Chinese to use him as hostage to calm Tibet down, or especially if it will help boost trade or balance of debt payments of international loans are concerned. Either way, that will be, effectively the end of the Dalai Lama and Tibetan revolts, and no Western power will do anything more than lodge protests. I am surprised somewhat, that China had not eliminated him years ago as no one protests their Secret Service assassination squads running loose all over the world...
What a terrible thought. Not that it couldn't happen, I'm just saying I hate to thing of such a thing. I like the Dalai Lama. What a kind man.
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solitare: It may be just a matter of time before the Chinese Secret Service or some power in the West turns him over to the Chinese to use him as hostage to calm Tibet down, or especially if it will help boost trade or balance of debt payments of international loans are concerned. Either way, that will be, effectively the end of the Dalai Lama and Tibetan revolts, and no Western power will do anything more than lodge protests. I am surprised somewhat, that China had not eliminated him years ago as no one protests their Secret Service assassination squads running loose all over the world...
I always learn from your posts .. and reflect over my sorta ignorance.
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The Dalai Lama is indeed a very special human being; it would be a tremendous spiritual blow to Mankind should something tragic occur.
The Chinese Secret Service is the most under-rated intelligence service in the world and the least talked about of any major power, yet they just may be the deadliest; and no, they are not all Chinese that work for them...especially their hit squads.
The Chinese Secret Service is the most under-rated intelligence service in the world and the least talked about of any major power, yet they just may be the deadliest; and no, they are not all Chinese that work for them...especially their hit squads.
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solitare: The Dalai Lama is indeed a very special human being; it would be a tremendous spiritual blow to Mankind should something tragic occur.
The Chinese Secret Service is the most under-rated intelligence service in the world and the least talked about of any major power, yet they just may be the deadliest; and no, they are not all Chinese that work for them...especially their hit squads.
The Chinese Secret Service is the most under-rated intelligence service in the world and the least talked about of any major power, yet they just may be the deadliest; and no, they are not all Chinese that work for them...especially their hit squads.
How come its never in the picture ?
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solitare: The Dalai Lama is indeed a very special human being; it would be a tremendous spiritual blow to Mankind should something tragic occur.
The Chinese Secret Service is the most under-rated intelligence service in the world and the least talked about of any major power, yet they just may be the deadliest; and no, they are not all Chinese that work for them...especially their hit squads.
The Chinese Secret Service is the most under-rated intelligence service in the world and the least talked about of any major power, yet they just may be the deadliest; and no, they are not all Chinese that work for them...especially their hit squads.
I know that when he was here in the US and met with President Bush,
the Chinese quickly filled a protest with us from there embassy on the
meeting. Also threatened some economic sanctions for the meeting.
Not sure if they came about.
I hope the United States does the 'right thing' here. Trouble there is this is a confusing and fluid situation, and we seem to miss doing the 'right thing' in them many times. I keep thinking of the Tiemmien Square protests of earlier and what happened there.
I saw video of the cities where riots had occurred. Did not see any of
the protesters carrying weapons. So seemed like a civil disobiedance
protest. Report did say that some were carring and throwing molotov cocktails at the police. Hence the start of the fires. Fires were in the kisko and shops along the streets, I noted. Not in the streets it seemed. But they will spread. So is hard to say.
Some rumor out there about groups that want to ban the coming
summer Olmypic Games. So maybe some way to pressure the Chinese on this.
I hope the Dalai Lama can stay safe in this. He is a kind man as mention before in the post.
Chinese have another problem brewing the western regions by the way. Islamic terrorism. They had a attempt to hi jack an aircraft and some other cell activity only a week ago. I cannot see a connection between this and that..........anyone else know differently?
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solitare: The Dalai Lama is indeed a very special human being; it would be a tremendous spiritual blow to Mankind should something tragic occur.
The Chinese Secret Service is the most under-rated intelligence service in the world and the least talked about of any major power, yet they just may be the deadliest; and no, they are not all Chinese that work for them...especially their hit squads.
The Chinese Secret Service is the most under-rated intelligence service in the world and the least talked about of any major power, yet they just may be the deadliest; and no, they are not all Chinese that work for them...especially their hit squads.
I know that when he was here in the US and met with President Bush,
the Chinese quickly filled a protest with us from there embassy on the
meeting. Also threatened some economic sanctions for the meeting.
Not sure if they came about.
I hope the United States does the 'right thing' here. Trouble there is this is a confusing and fluid situation, and we seem to miss doing the 'right thing' in them many times. I keep thinking of the Tiemmien Square protests of earlier and what happened there.
I saw video of the cities where riots had occurred. Did not see any of
the protesters carrying weapons. So seemed like a civil disobiedance
protest. Report did say that some were carring and throwing molotov cocktails at the police. Hence the start of the fires. Fires were in the kisko and shops along the streets, I noted. Not in the streets it seemed. But they will spread. So is hard to say.
Some rumor out there about groups that want to ban the coming
summer Olmypic Games. So maybe some way to pressure the Chinese on this.
I hope the Dalai Lama can stay safe in this. He is a kind man as mention before in the post.
Chinese have another problem brewing the western regions by the way. Islamic terrorism. They had a attempt to hi jack an aircraft and some other cell activity only a week ago. I cannot see a connection between this and that..........anyone else know differently?
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TartanK: China is the up-and-coming economic superpower, so expect absolutely nothing from the existing world big hitters. China is to be courted now, not taken to task. Such is life.
Kinda makes you sick.
Kinda makes you sick.
Money rules
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What "T"s me off is,that China really has no Business being there.
They annected Tibet in 1949 after their Civil war,and no one was brave enough to do anything about it.
But the Reckoning will come.
China right now is getting as polluted as some places in the 'Former Soviet Union' and the 'Former DDR' are.
They annected Tibet in 1949 after their Civil war,and no one was brave enough to do anything about it.
But the Reckoning will come.
China right now is getting as polluted as some places in the 'Former Soviet Union' and the 'Former DDR' are.
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Conrad73: What "T"s me off is,that China really has no Business being there.
They annected Tibet in 1949 after their Civil war,and no one was brave enough to do anything about it.
But the Reckoning will come.
China right now is getting as polluted as some places in the 'Former Soviet Union' and the 'Former DDR' are.
They annected Tibet in 1949 after their Civil war,and no one was brave enough to do anything about it.
But the Reckoning will come.
China right now is getting as polluted as some places in the 'Former Soviet Union' and the 'Former DDR' are.
Many European countries had colonies overseas that they had no business being in either and, as you say, the day of reckoning does come. Britain had terrible problems with Palestine / Cyprus / Ireland / India etc. etc. etc.
As for pollution, the West has done its bit in helping to destroy the planet, and it continues to do so. Expect China and the other emerging economies to tell the West to go and stuff itself. Who can blame them?
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Isn't this tragic?