SLUGS & SNAILS .... (90)

May 17, 2008 8:50 AM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Conrad73: Weeeell,ain't that Special,the Swissies growing Crappy Foliage in their Damp Gardens


Yes, damn cheek huh? Antcus - I bet on the whole of your silly little island there is not as much fruit and vegetables growing as there is growing in my tiny little village! People here grow proper food to eat. And the surplus is bottled/preserved, or stored in our Natural Cellars for winter-time.

So, being such a nature-lover, I am guessing you are Big-Time involved with conservation over on your island? ... helping to protect the indigenous birds from being shot for fun, or caged on rooftops in the hot sun? or hanging from walls in the dingy alley-ways in all weather with green gungy water dishes and cages full of old crap? I am believing that there is some hope now for your poor birds.

I witnessed a couple of domestic type birds suffering in a cage outside a "pet shop" there, so bad I thought of buying them, but could not bring them home here. On re-telling their pathetic tale to someone here they said I should have bought them, taken them out the cage, killed them, and handed them back to the shop and said "Here, now their suffering is over". Damn I didn`t think of that at the time!

If you could see the amount of slugs crawling around the place here .... they sometimes make pathways impossible to walk on! .... Their profilicy is due to people not using poisons on them - to save the birdlife, which is well fed... too well fed!
May 17, 2008 10:16 AM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
antcus
antcusantcusSt Paul's Bay, Majjistral Malta17 Threads 948 Posts
smoky: Yes, damn cheek huh? Antcus - I bet on the whole of your silly little island there is not as much fruit and vegetables growing as there is growing in my tiny little village! People here grow proper food to eat. And the surplus is bottled/preserved, or stored in our Natural Cellars for winter-time.

So, being such a nature-lover, I am guessing you are Big-Time involved with conservation over on your island? ... helping to protect the indigenous birds from being shot for fun, or caged on rooftops in the hot sun? or hanging from walls in the dingy alley-ways in all weather with green gungy water dishes and cages full of old crap? I am believing that there is some hope now for your poor birds.

I witnessed a couple of domestic type birds suffering in a cage outside a "pet shop" there, so bad I thought of buying them, but could not bring them home here. On re-telling their pathetic tale to someone here they said I should have bought them, taken them out the cage, killed them, and handed them back to the shop and said "Here, now their suffering is over". Damn I didn`t think of that at the time!

If you could see the amount of slugs crawling around the place here .... they sometimes make pathways impossible to walk on! .... Their profilicy is due to people not using poisons on them - to save the birdlife, which is well fed... too well fed!


Actually Smoky, your idea of giving them beer is the most fantastic idea I have ever heard so far. It is the exact equivalent of giving rope to somebody to hang himself. But seriously, if these slugs die enjoying a beer, then it is good luck to them. It must be a very pleasant death. Just like someone dying during a bonk I guess!!
May 17, 2008 10:21 AM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
antcus: Actually Smoky, your idea of giving them beer is the most fantastic idea I have ever heard so far. It is the exact equivalent of giving rope to somebody to hang himself. But seriously, if these slugs die enjoying a beer, then it is good luck to them. It must be a very pleasant death. Just like someone dying during a bonk I guess!!


Okay, good! So I have convinced you at last! At least they dont turn into slime ... they look very sublime and rather happy about it - I think.... All I know is that I got to keep topping up the pubs every day they drink so much!cheers
May 17, 2008 10:27 AM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
wedward
wedwardwedwardlinz, Upper Austria Austria680 Threads 7,252 Posts
smoky: Okay, good! So I have convinced you at last! At least they dont turn into slime ... they look very sublime and rather happy about it - I think.... All I know is that I got to keep topping up the pubs every day they drink so much!
--- give them beer smokyrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
May 17, 2008 7:30 PM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
You know a person I met on this site said to me in conversation once
" I do not even kill flies" --- sooooo sooo simple But!--- food for much thought

---" I do not kill flies
May 17, 2008 10:35 PM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
wedward
wedwardwedwardlinz, Upper Austria Austria680 Threads 7,252 Posts
CuspofMagic: You know a person I met on this site said to me in conversation once
" I do not even kill flies" --- sooooo sooo simple But!--- food for much thought

---" I do not kill flies
everything/and everybody on this planet kills something
May 18, 2008 2:37 AM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
wedward: everything/and everybody on this planet kills something


--- perhaps its time we stopped
May 18, 2008 3:00 AM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
wedward
wedwardwedwardlinz, Upper Austria Austria680 Threads 7,252 Posts
CuspofMagic: --- perhaps its time we stopped
now that is a super quote , thanks cm for that
May 18, 2008 3:10 AM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
wedward: now that is a super quote , thanks cm for that


your not being --- sarcastic are you Wedy laugh
May 18, 2008 7:54 AM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
CuspofMagic: --- perhaps its time we stopped
And The Lion Shall Lie Down With The Lamb....?dunno
May 18, 2008 8:07 AM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
Interesting Story I came across checking about for my other Post!

“And the lion shall lie down with the lamb.”

Though the phrase of “the lion shall lie down with the lamb” is one of the more popular quotes from the Bible, it’s really misquoted. In the King James version, it’s the wolf that dwells with the lamb, and it’s a leopard that lies down with a kid, and “the calf and the young lion and the fatling together.” (Isaiah 11:6)

But in today’s world, there is a lion that lies down with a calf,in fact, she adopted and nurtured five antelope calves

It’s a remarkable story of the love of one animal for another, and it seems to personify the truth that not all natural enemies are exactly that—natural and unavoidable enemies

Christmas Day of 2001, game wardens at the Samburu National Park in Kenya watched as an adult lioness frightened off an oryx antelope mother, and picked up her baby calf in its mouth. Because lions normally hunt these antelope, they assumed the lion would kill and eat the baby. But then the unexpected happened.

The lion, named Larsens, began to nuzzle and fondle the frail little creature. Behavioral scientists first stated that the lioness had probably mistaken the oryx calf for a lion cub. But then the lioness showed her awareness of the calf as another species, because she allowed the calf to return to her natural mother to nurse.

More than two weeks, the lioness Larsens nudged the little calf along, all the while allowing her to return to her antelope mother for nourishment before chasing the mother antelope away once again.

The fragile baby oryx was seen crossing the savannah with her lioness “mother,” and would curl up by her side for naps. Tragedy struck one day while the lioness napped by a water hole. While the baby oryx was playing, another lion attacked and killed it.

According to the wardens, Larsens was enraged when she woke. Ten times she circled the lion that killed her oryx calf, roaring all the while. Then she disappeared from view.

Larsens was seen a few weeks later, following herds of oryx antelope. “She never kills them,” said one warden. “When she is hungry, she goes after warthogs.”

But Larsens would again amaze the rangers with her mothering instincts. On Valentine’s Day, 2002, lioness Larsens was spotted with another oryx calf. And just like the last one, she’d adopted the calf as her own.

It seemed Larsens had learned the need to protect her new baby from other lions and predators. She guarded the new baby ferociously, chasing off any lions that approached. “There are other lions trying to attack the lioness to get to the baby, but the rangers are watching them and the lioness is protecting the calf,” said park warden Mark Lenya-kopir.

“This is one extraordinarily maternal cat,” said lion expert Jim Cavenor. “I've seen lions adopt a few small animals, but they usually end up turning round and eating them after a couple of days. But she seems to be totally fixated on this little one.”

Unlike the common assumptions of most people, animals do think. Their thinking is not some robotic response to environmental stimuli, but an active, cognitive reasoning. Larsens is proof of this. She adopted a series of what was normally a “prey” species for lions, and protected them as her own. She knew she could not provide nourishment for them, and allowed them to return to their mothers for food.

Larsens is just one example of how animals react with emotion, with feeling and with true knowledge of what they are doing. She ultimately adopted a total of five oryx calves, giving all of them fierce protection and tender care while ignoring her own basic needs. Her actions have made her a legend among the people of Kenya, and they bestowed another name on her because of their reverence for her loving nature.

The Samburu people call her Kamunyak—the blessed one.

Sources: The Observer, Lewa Wildlife Conservancy

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May 18, 2008 8:05 PM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
Conrad73: And The Lion Shall Lie Down With The Lamb....?


yes handshake Conrad - its all been stated in many mediums since we first looked at "Being" and will continue
May 19, 2008 11:40 PM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
wedward
wedwardwedwardlinz, Upper Austria Austria680 Threads 7,252 Posts
CuspofMagic: your not being --- sarcastic are you Wedy
no cm pay you a compliment actualy hope you have good sleep and a happy day
Jun 8, 2008 12:32 PM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
Slug-Weather we're having here in Zurich.
Make you feel like you wanna SLUG somebody.rolling on the floor laughing
Weather all Grey in Gray uh oh doh
Jun 8, 2008 12:42 PM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Conrad73: Slug-Weather we're having here in Zurich.
Make you feel like you wanna SLUG somebody.
Weather all Grey in Gray


My slugs are all drunk! from drinking beer........cheers Funny, they just like humans .... too much alcohol seems to kill them too......confused
Jun 8, 2008 12:46 PM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
smoky: My slugs are all drunk! from drinking beer........ Funny, they just like humans .... too much alcohol seems to kill them too......
Suppose that is the Nature of the Beast,ermm..Alcohol.
Good Fuel for IC-Engines!professor rolling on the floor laughing wave
Jun 8, 2008 12:47 PM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Conrad73: Interesting Story I came across checking about for my other Post!

“And the lion shall lie down with the lamb.”

The Samburu people call her Kamunyak—the blessed one.

Sources: The Observer, Lewa Wildlife Conservancy


Hey! I saw a similar thing on a BBC programme .... this was a very young lioness with a newly born Wildebeest that got seperated from its mother. The lioness kept the little Wildebeest going for a couple days - in search of its mother. Both were very hungry, the W/b baby just about dying - they found the mother, and the lioness went off and killed ANOTHER young buck and ate it! Incredible! They slept together even!.. and the lioness kept nudging the baby along in search of its mother.
Jun 8, 2008 12:54 PM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
smoky: Hey! I saw a similar thing on a BBC programme .... this was a very young lioness with a newly born Wildebeest that got seperated from its mother. The lioness kept the little Wildebeest going for a couple days - in search of its mother. Both were very hungry, the W/b baby just about dying - they found the mother, and the lioness went off and killed ANOTHER young buck and ate it! Incredible! They slept together even!.. and the lioness kept nudging the baby along in search of its mother.
Makes you wonder sometimes."WILD ANIMALS"

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

--William Shakespeare, Hamlet "I.v.174-75"

Guess he was right!roll eyes wave
Jun 10, 2008 1:31 AM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
wedward
wedwardwedwardlinz, Upper Austria Austria680 Threads 7,252 Posts
Conrad73: Makes you wonder sometimes."WILD ANIMALS"

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

--William Shakespeare, Hamlet "I.v.174-75"

Guess he was right!
another way to kill slugs is with coffee beans soaked in bleach or pure bleach on pathways just spray the little blighters
Jun 10, 2008 7:18 AM CST SLUGS & SNAILS ....
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
wedward: another way to kill slugs is with coffee beans soaked in bleach or pure bleach on pathways just spray the little blighters


Problem is I got to keep some of the little blighters for Hedgie to eat. Anyway, my problem seems to be solved now - since I removed the dense growth of ground-cover ivy, put in the Slug Pubs, and whenever I find a visiting snail wandering around looking for a mate to propogate their species I put him/her out in the road to play. Have you heard what a nice big bang a snail shell makes when a car tyre goes over it? Now my grandkids put them under visitors cars and scare the bejusus out of them when they pull off.

The thing is this, they got lots of land around my house to go crawl around in - they just not welcome here - and the birds dont like them either..... Well anyway, there is still a small controlable population, in my garden, I just dont want to be overrun!
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