SLUGS & SNAILS .... (90)
smokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts.. Have they got feelings? .... Is it kinder to crush a snails shell? ... Throw them out into the mid-day heat on concrete to die a slow dry death? ... Sprinkle them with salt and turn them into writhing slime?.... Or "humanely" kill them by enticing them into a Beer trap?.. where they free to drink as much as they want, get drunk and drown themselves?
smoky: True, Lionheart, very true! But we got a humungous problem here with snails and slugs .... as it gets warm they cover everything and eat all the budding new leaves and blossoms. Okay, they are food for the Hedgehogs, but the Hedgies only eat what they can find on the ground...... and the snails/slugs eat everything above ground level. I found out they absolutely go crazy over beer ..... so thought I`d lay in a few Free Pubs for them .. and they love it! Unrestrained, they crawl all over everything ... even deckchairs and out-door tables leaving their slime trails ...... The birds dont want to eat them - So what is their normal natural predator? Is the balance somehow upset here? ..... Even though no poisons are used?
Cut them in half.Many Snails are Carnivorous and they will eat other Snails,especially if the are dead.Also the Hedgehogs will then be able to get at them,since the Snails would be on the Ground.
smoky: True, Lionheart, very true! But we got a humungous problem here with snails and slugs .... as it gets warm they cover everything and eat all the budding new leaves and blossoms. Okay, they are food for the Hedgehogs, but the Hedgies only eat what they can find on the ground...... and the snails/slugs eat everything above ground level. I found out they absolutely go crazy over beer ..... so thought I`d lay in a few Free Pubs for them .. and they love it! Unrestrained, they crawl all over everything ... even deckchairs and out-door tables leaving their slime trails ...... The birds dont want to eat them - So what is their normal natural predator? Is the balance somehow upset here? ..... Even though no poisons are used?
Birds will get the ones not on the ground. Especially thrushes, such as the Song Thrush. SO they have plenty of predators. Why do you think they have shells! 
Conrad73: That is all very well.
Do we stop killing Rodents then,since they are responsible for the Destruction of ONLY about 25% of the Grain-Crops in some Countries,usually Countries that can least afford such a loss.
Rodents that cause damage as mainly rats which have been introduced by man. Accidentally most of the time. Very often they multiply and increase because they do not have natural predators. As is the case here in Malta, because hunters have killed off all the Kestrels and Barn Owls that prey on rats. If man did not interfere with nature, there would be equilibrium.Do we stop killing Rodents then,since they are responsible for the Destruction of ONLY about 25% of the Grain-Crops in some Countries,usually Countries that can least afford such a loss.
Lionheart1211: Rodents that cause damage as mainly rats which have been introduced by man. Accidentally most of the time. Very often they multiply and increase because they do not have natural predators. As is the case here in Malta, because hunters have killed off all the Kestrels and Barn Owls that prey on rats. If man did not interfere with nature, there would be equilibrium.
Lets kill off all of Mankind and restore the Natural Equilibrium of Nature again
smoky: .. Have they got feelings? .... Is it kinder to crush a snails shell? ... Throw them out into the mid-day heat on concrete to die a slow dry death? ... Sprinkle them with salt and turn them into writhing slime?.... Or "humanely" kill them by enticing them into a Beer trap?.. where they free to drink as much as they want, get drunk and drown themselves?
How much can one eat --- pick them up ( Have you dealt with ones slimey excretions)use it as and exercise in practice
--- then place them in another section of your garden where you possibly want the removal of green matter
CuspofMagic: How much can one eat --- pick them up ( Have you dealt with ones slimey excretions)use it as and exercise in practice --- then place them in another section of your garden where you possibly want the removal of green matter
we all live off something and all life is entitled to lifewedward: we all live off something and all life is entitled to life
How can all life be entitled to life is you are at the top of a food chain?
rusty_knight: How can all life be entitled to life is you are at the top of a food chain?
We aren,t at the top of the food chain, we are at the bottom cos when we get buried the worms,ll ave us.
Elley: We aren,t at the top of the food chain, we are at the bottom cos when we get buried the worms,ll ave us.
That's 'recycling' for you!
Lionheart1211: Rodents that cause damage as mainly rats which have been introduced by man. Accidentally most of the time. Very often they multiply and increase because they do not have natural predators. As is the case here in Malta, because hunters have killed off all the Kestrels and Barn Owls that prey on rats. If man did not interfere with nature, there would be equilibrium.
Hunting is very very strictly controlled here ..... Never ever would a bird or any other animal be indiscrimately killed.... So we obviously still got all the natural bird life .... just nothing, besides the Hedgehogs, who eat snails and slugs!
Anyway, never to worry .... I discussed this with an elderly lady today, and she informed me that the earth at my house had not been turned over for many years ... hence the phenomenal amount of slugs and snails ... I only have to spade up the entire garden to unearth the young snails and slugs for Hedgie to nibble on. Well I have already done most of this .... only a few thousand more spadefulls to go! .. And to get rid of all the Ivy groundcover. And that the Comfrey plants I have planted (about 30 so far) will help to eradicate the remaining slugs and snails, but still provide dinner enough for Hedgie and his mates.
I do try and work with nature .... with a few of my own entrepreneurial ideas thrown in .... So the 2 Free Beer pubs for snails and slugs will be a permanent feature ... especially in the region of my Hemp plants.
CuspofMagic: How much can one eat --- pick them up ( Have you dealt with ones slimey excretions)use it as and exercise in practice --- then place them in another section of your garden where you possibly want the removal of green matter
You'd be surprised how much one of those Little Mouths can eat.
CuspofMagic: How much can one eat --- pick them up ( Have you dealt with ones slimey excretions)use it as and exercise in practice --- then place them in another section of your garden where you possibly want the removal of green matter
How much can ONE snail eat? .... It can eat an entire seedling in one night!
Nah, Cuspo .... When I`m in a good mood I give them to my grand-daughter and she has snail races - the winner gets to go to the neighbor, and the losers have to go play on the main road with the cars.
Conrad73: You'd be surprised how much one of those Little Mouths can eat.
Yup ... you only got to live in CH, wait all winter long to grow something ... and then have these Slugs come along and devour the whole lot in one night! ... Sort of reminds me of being back in Africa! Okay, so the slugs havent got AK47`s ... but they still eating what I planted for myself!
smoky: Hunting is very very strictly controlled here ..... Never ever would a bird or any other animal be indiscrimately killed.... So we obviously still got all the natural bird life .... just nothing, besides the Hedgehogs, who eat snails and slugs!
Anyway, never to worry .... I discussed this with an elderly lady today, and she informed me that the earth at my house had not been turned over for many years ... hence the phenomenal amount of slugs and snails ... I only have to spade up the entire garden to unearth the young snails and slugs for Hedgie to nibble on. Well I have already done most of this .... only a few thousand more spadefulls to go! .. And to get rid of all the Ivy groundcover. And that the Comfrey plants I have planted (about 30 so far) will help to eradicate the remaining slugs and snails, but still provide dinner enough for Hedgie and his mates.
I do try and work with nature .... with a few of my own entrepreneurial ideas thrown in .... So the 2 Free Beer pubs for snails and slugs will be a permanent feature ... especially in the region of my Hemp plants.
HEMP???Anyway, never to worry .... I discussed this with an elderly lady today, and she informed me that the earth at my house had not been turned over for many years ... hence the phenomenal amount of slugs and snails ... I only have to spade up the entire garden to unearth the young snails and slugs for Hedgie to nibble on. Well I have already done most of this .... only a few thousand more spadefulls to go! .. And to get rid of all the Ivy groundcover. And that the Comfrey plants I have planted (about 30 so far) will help to eradicate the remaining slugs and snails, but still provide dinner enough for Hedgie and his mates.
I do try and work with nature .... with a few of my own entrepreneurial ideas thrown in .... So the 2 Free Beer pubs for snails and slugs will be a permanent feature ... especially in the region of my Hemp plants.
Trying to Stone those poor Critters?? smoky: How much can ONE snail eat? .... It can eat an entire seedling in one night!
Nah, Cuspo .... When I`m in a good mood I give them to my grand-daughter and she has snail races - the winner gets to go to the neighbor, and the losers have to go play on the main road with the cars.
Nah, Cuspo .... When I`m in a good mood I give them to my grand-daughter and she has snail races - the winner gets to go to the neighbor, and the losers have to go play on the main road with the cars.
---try crushed egg shells around your seedlings
try training your hedgehogs to fly
smoky: How much can ONE snail eat? .... It can eat an entire seedling in one night!
Nah, Cuspo .... When I`m in a good mood I give them to my grand-daughter and she has snail races - the winner gets to go to the neighbor, and the losers have to go play on the main road with the cars.
---- try this smoky mix coffee grinds and salt together sprinkle around plants slugs and snails will not crossand it works they will go and find another more frienly gardenNah, Cuspo .... When I`m in a good mood I give them to my grand-daughter and she has snail races - the winner gets to go to the neighbor, and the losers have to go play on the main road with the cars.
CuspofMagic: ---try crushed egg shells around your seedlings
I`d need a few tons of eggs for that! but turning the soil over and getting rid of the dense ground cover of ivy has helped .... not that many around any more this year! .... Also, Hedgie had babies so maybe all those extra little mouths eating away has dwindled the supply? for the escapee slugs there is always the beer pubs - only 2 situated in the choicest area ....
wedward: ---- try this smoky mix coffee grinds and salt together sprinkle around plants slugs and snails will not crossand it works they will go and find another more frienly garden
Cant add salt to the soil! Coffee grounds work well .... oh maybe thats why I dont have the huge problem this year I had last year? ....(plus the Hedgie babies) Another good reason to not give up drinking coffee! Coffee grounds work well with ant problems I`ve noticed, and the plants seem to like it too.
I know that Comfrey forms a good barrier against the slugs, they just hate the prickly leaves - but I moved the vege garden this year and my barrier had to be replanted, so is too spaced out to be effective yet.
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