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wedwardlinz, Upper Austria Austria680 Threads 7,252 Postsno oil no electricity no food in shops money has no value how would u survive could u adapt and tell how
wedward: no oil no electricity no food in shops money has no value how would u survive could u adapt and tell how
nightmares and hailstones come all by themselves... no need to stress myself with that now... omg... no....
it's bad enough my laptop is havign a fit....
wedward: no oil no electricity no food in shops money has no value how would u survive could u adapt and tell how
Ask the Zimbabweans?
wedward: no oil no electricity no food in shops money has no value how would u survive could u adapt and tell how
My parents and their parents had to during the civil war in Spain ... They lived from their land, walked miles and miles to collect firewood for the fireplace (to cook) ... some people in the village were not so fortunate and had no land to cultivate ... There was a lot of hunger and poverty ...
Hopefully I have inherited a lot of their survival skills and I was taught a lot of the "old fashioned home making skills without the use of electricity" as I was growing up ... When I was a kid (in France) we had no running water (a well in the garden) and heating was a wood burner ... we used to have electricity but no washing machine and when we visited my grandmother (in Spain) she had no electricity ... she had alcohol lamp/candles and still cooked in the fireplace ... I know a bit about building and how to cut and sew by hand or pedal operated machine, knit, crochet, mend etc ... I think if need be I will make clothes for people in exchange for food and services + I will open a healing surgery for people who can't afford medicines or the doctors fees (on donations all kinds accepted - money or goods). Will have to get my parents to teach me what they know about "growing stuff" as I don't know much about it ...
I think people will re-learn "swapping" services/goods and those who have manual skills will be in great demand - it will be a society role reversal
Even more estate agents (and may be lawyers) will go bankrupt!!! FlowerOfTheSun: My parents and their parents had to during the civil war in Spain ... They lived from their land, walked miles and miles to collect firewood for the fireplace (to cook) ... some people in the village were not so fortunate and had no land to cultivate ... There was a lot of hunger and poverty ...
Hopefully I have inherited a lot of their survival skills and I was taught a lot of the "old fashioned home making skills without the use of electricity" as I was growing up ... When I was a kid (in France) we had no running water (a well in the garden) and heating was a wood burner ... we used to have electricity but no washing machine and when we visited my grandmother (in Spain) she had no electricity ... she had alcohol lamp/candles and still cooked in the fireplace ... I know a bit about building and how to cut and sew by hand or pedal operated machine, knit, crochet, mend etc ... I think if need be I will make clothes for people in exchange for food and services + I will open a healing surgery for people who can't afford medicines or the doctors fees (on donations all kinds accepted - money or goods). Will have to get my parents to teach me what they know about "growing stuff" as I don't know much about it ...
I think people will re-learn "swapping" services/goods and those who have manual skills will be in great demand - it will be a society role reversal Even more estate agents (and may be lawyers) will go bankrupt!!!
Hopefully I have inherited a lot of their survival skills and I was taught a lot of the "old fashioned home making skills without the use of electricity" as I was growing up ... When I was a kid (in France) we had no running water (a well in the garden) and heating was a wood burner ... we used to have electricity but no washing machine and when we visited my grandmother (in Spain) she had no electricity ... she had alcohol lamp/candles and still cooked in the fireplace ... I know a bit about building and how to cut and sew by hand or pedal operated machine, knit, crochet, mend etc ... I think if need be I will make clothes for people in exchange for food and services + I will open a healing surgery for people who can't afford medicines or the doctors fees (on donations all kinds accepted - money or goods). Will have to get my parents to teach me what they know about "growing stuff" as I don't know much about it ...
I think people will re-learn "swapping" services/goods and those who have manual skills will be in great demand - it will be a society role reversal Even more estate agents (and may be lawyers) will go bankrupt!!!
I am a proven lawer.
Oh thats a scary thought....have to think about this 
And Pepper will cost more than gold
Mark21000: And Pepper will cost more than gold
and cinamon
I even put it in lentils
dragonfly88: and cinamon
I even put it in lentils
I even put it in lentils
I doubt anyone (apart from you 2 hahaha!) will be THAT worried about pepper or cinamon if things get that bad ... salt however is needed by the body in small quantities ...
And sugar ... there will be LOADS of grumpy aggressive people around coz they haven't had their sugar fix. Withdrawl symtoms from sugar are stronger that withdrawl symptoms from tobacco ... I know because I had to give up ALL sugar consumption in all it's forms at one stage for medical reasons (now I'm just careful) and I was astounded at the strength of the withdrawl symptoms even though I never had a sweet tooth or even have sugar in my hot drinks or drink fizzy drinks ...
FlowerOfTheSun: I doubt anyone (apart from you 2 hahaha!) will be THAT worried about pepper or cinamon if things get that bad ... salt however is needed by the body in small quantities ...
And sugar ... there will be LOADS of grumpy aggressive people around coz they haven't had their sugar fix. Withdrawl symtoms from sugar are stronger that withdrawl symptoms from tobacco ... I know because I had to give up ALL sugar consumption in all it's forms at one stage for medical reasons (now I'm just careful) and I was astounded at the strength of the withdrawl symptoms even though I never had a sweet tooth or even have sugar in my hot drinks or drink fizzy drinks ...
And sugar ... there will be LOADS of grumpy aggressive people around coz they haven't had their sugar fix. Withdrawl symtoms from sugar are stronger that withdrawl symptoms from tobacco ... I know because I had to give up ALL sugar consumption in all it's forms at one stage for medical reasons (now I'm just careful) and I was astounded at the strength of the withdrawl symptoms even though I never had a sweet tooth or even have sugar in my hot drinks or drink fizzy drinks ...
now you're talking serious stuff there Flower..
goodness me... no sugar?
that's really bad...
I can give up cigarettes no problem if I want to... I've done it just out of "pelotas" but I don't think I could do it with chocoalte..
If I ever have to give sugar up for forced reasons... I think I will be the most unhappy person on earth... and the grumpiest... and the worst tempered of all....
now you're talking serious stuff there Flower..
goodness me... no sugar?
that's really bad...
I can give up cigarettes no problem if I want to... I've done it just out of "pelotas" but I don't think I could do it with chocoalte..
If I ever have to give sugar up for forced reasons... I think I will be the most unhappy person on earth... and the grumpiest... and the worst tempered of all....[/quote]
Don't worry D/F you'll be fine!!! You know what they say about the "happy" hormone produced by chocolate ... well you can get it from other food sources too : Serotonin is manufactured in the body from the amino acid tryptophan, which is present in most protein-based foods. High levels of tryptophan are found in cheese, meat, soya beans, sesame seeds, chocolate, oats, bananas, dried dates, milk and salmon. Trouble is would we be able to get some of those foods then
Never mind there is ONE other thing that has a similar effect on happy hormone production and IS freely available and works every time
goodness me... no sugar?
that's really bad...
I can give up cigarettes no problem if I want to... I've done it just out of "pelotas" but I don't think I could do it with chocoalte..
If I ever have to give sugar up for forced reasons... I think I will be the most unhappy person on earth... and the grumpiest... and the worst tempered of all....[/quote]
Don't worry D/F you'll be fine!!! You know what they say about the "happy" hormone produced by chocolate ... well you can get it from other food sources too : Serotonin is manufactured in the body from the amino acid tryptophan, which is present in most protein-based foods. High levels of tryptophan are found in cheese, meat, soya beans, sesame seeds, chocolate, oats, bananas, dried dates, milk and salmon. Trouble is would we be able to get some of those foods then
Never mind there is ONE other thing that has a similar effect on happy hormone production and IS freely available and works every time
dragonfly88: now you're talking serious stuff there Flower..
goodness me... no sugar?
that's really bad...
I can give up cigarettes no problem if I want to... I've done it just out of "pelotas" but I don't think I could do it with chocoalte..
If I ever have to give sugar up for forced reasons... I think I will be the most unhappy person on earth... and the grumpiest... and the worst tempered of all....
Grass Stalks and other Plant-parts contain Sugar,so does Corn and Fruits,Sugar-beet as well.goodness me... no sugar?
that's really bad...
I can give up cigarettes no problem if I want to... I've done it just out of "pelotas" but I don't think I could do it with chocoalte..
If I ever have to give sugar up for forced reasons... I think I will be the most unhappy person on earth... and the grumpiest... and the worst tempered of all....
CHOCOLATE
Grow your own Tobacco.
Surprising what People could "Makedo"
Conrad73: Grass Stalks and other Plant-parts contain Sugar,so does Corn and Fruits,Sugar-beet as well.
CHOCOLATE
Grow your own Tobacco.
Surprising what People could "Makedo"
--- imagine the scene in a very posh area of a city -man digs up front garden puts pigs and chickens in back garden has cress and carrots in his hanging baskets a recllying waste plant on the side of his house hay in the bedrooms veg stored in wardrobes house price zero but lives like a king what would u do if he lived next door to you?CHOCOLATE
Grow your own Tobacco.
Surprising what People could "Makedo"
FlowerOfTheSun: now you're talking serious stuff there Flower..
goodness me... no sugar?
that's really bad...
I can give up cigarettes no problem if I want to... I've done it just out of "pelotas" but I don't think I could do it with chocoalte..
If I ever have to give sugar up for forced reasons... I think I will be the most unhappy person on earth... and the grumpiest... and the worst tempered of all....[/ quote]
Don't worry D/F you'll be fine!!! You know what they say about the "happy" hormone produced by chocolate ... well you can get it from other food sources too : Serotonin is manufactured in the body from the amino acid tryptophan, which is present in most protein-based foods. High levels of tryptophan are found in cheese, meat, soya beans, sesame seeds, chocolate, oats, bananas, dried dates, milk and salmon. Trouble is would we be able to get some of those foods then
Never mind there is ONE other thing that has a similar effect on happy hormone production and IS freely available and works every time
goodness me... no sugar?
that's really bad...
I can give up cigarettes no problem if I want to... I've done it just out of "pelotas" but I don't think I could do it with chocoalte..
If I ever have to give sugar up for forced reasons... I think I will be the most unhappy person on earth... and the grumpiest... and the worst tempered of all....[/ quote]
Don't worry D/F you'll be fine!!! You know what they say about the "happy" hormone produced by chocolate ... well you can get it from other food sources too : Serotonin is manufactured in the body from the amino acid tryptophan, which is present in most protein-based foods. High levels of tryptophan are found in cheese, meat, soya beans, sesame seeds, chocolate, oats, bananas, dried dates, milk and salmon. Trouble is would we be able to get some of those foods then
Never mind there is ONE other thing that has a similar effect on happy hormone production and IS freely available and works every time
luckily all the things I like....
I'm a cheese person.. not so much a meat person... soya is ok in sprouts.. they're crunchy... I like those sesamy seeds bananas too and salmon..... no milk.... I don't like milk
but would we have all this?
wedward: --- imagine the scene in a very posh area of a city -man digs up front garden puts pigs and chickens in back garden has cress and carrots in his hanging baskets a recllying waste plant on the side of his house hay in the bedrooms veg stored in wardrobes house price zero but lives like a king what would u do if he lived next door to you?
I do believe he would be patrolling his borders with a shotgun?
Conrad73: Grass Stalks and other Plant-parts contain Sugar,so does Corn and Fruits,Sugar-beet as well.
CHOCOLATE
Grow your own Tobacco.
Surprising what People could "Makedo"
CHOCOLATE
Grow your own Tobacco.
Surprising what People could "Makedo"
goodness me...
no wonder I've been eating plants since I was little
(I wont tell you what I used to do with ants)
wedward: --- imagine the scene in a very posh area of a city -man digs up front garden puts pigs and chickens in back garden has cress and carrots in his hanging baskets a recllying waste plant on the side of his house hay in the bedrooms veg stored in wardrobes house price zero but lives like a king what would u do if he lived next door to you?
first I'd thought I'd befried him/her but if he's my neighbour it means I also have a garden... so.... I'd probably plat different things from him and then do some swapping.
chickens are lovely in a house...
dragonfly88: first I'd thought I'd befried him/her but if he's my neighbour it means I also have a garden... so.... I'd probably plat different things from him and then do some swapping.
chickens are lovely in a house...
u would end with an inner city farm if enough joined in growing wheat soya and one has cows another rabbits even a well for water etc back to the barter systemchickens are lovely in a house...
smoky: I do believe he would be patrolling his borders with a shotgun?
----think it would be a bow and arrow and ditch filled whit manurewedward: ----think it would be a bow and arrow and ditch filled whit manure
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