wedward: -- and here are but a few sir francis bacon- bertrand russell - david store-js mill sir thomas more - adam smith --and the list goes on-please research before u make false statments on the the english and their language then u will get it right ----remember to put brain in gear before opening mouth or writing words --
Weddy!! Don't so harsh!!! How do you know this statement was not an "informed" statement?
Although I agree with you about the many amazing English writers and phylosophers, when I meet up with my friend who also peaks 3 languages totally fluently, we find ourselves using words in either French or Spanish because those words ARE more expressive and accurate to convey feeling or thought than the words that are available in English. Yes, the English language does have words that convey subtle differences sometimes BUT at times there is just NOT a word that exists that conveys something specific that DOES exist in an other language. JMHO
wedward: --- the worlds people commuicate with each other very well, if its not broken why try to fix it , it works as it is leave it alone---
Yes! Wedward. This is quite true. The spread of a language is organic and English seems to be the common language within a large part of the World. It is also a language that is evolving day by day with new words being added at an extremely fast pace.
To the other comments that say that any one language is better or worse for expressing oneself is nonsense, language is merely the medium of expression. This is purely a subjective aesthetic judgement.
FlowerOfTheSun: Weddy!! Don't so harsh!!! How do you know this statement was not an "informed" statement?
Although I agree with you about the many amazing English writers and phylosophers, when I meet up with my friend who also peaks 3 languages totally fluently, we find ourselves using words in either French or Spanish because those words ARE more expressive and accurate to convey feeling or thought than the words that are available in English. Yes, the English language does have words that convey subtle differences sometimes BUT at times there is just NOT a word that exists that conveys something specific that DOES exist in an other language. JMHO
--sorry flower i was just making a point not being harsh but i have a great love of the english language for instance did u know will shakspear gave it over 1500 new words and english is a most romantic language to read wordsworth ,s host of daffiodilsenglish is just great its the country thats going to the dogs
I guess it's an ok language for global simple communication, but that's it. The english language is too poor in it's grammar and expressional context to accomodate a lot of people's need of expression. Ever thought why not one great philosopher was english?
Well, it's not related with philosophy..... the functionality and simplicity of the language is more important. This is what makes one language more flexible for communication.... By the way, the english language is reach enough for expressions and expalnations. I will not mention one of the famoust writers, poets and philosophers.... Don't forget- there are lots of words coming from french , german or old lathin language, and nowadays more and more words from other languages being used for expresions of different situations or weird things... such as: monochrome, rug, lamp...etc.
I guess it's an ok language for global simple communication, but that's it. The english language is too poor in it's grammar and expressional context to accomodate a lot of people's need of expression. Ever thought why not one great philosopher was english?
BALLS BALLS BALLS !!! What has expression got to do with thinking.....Philosophy is a way of conceiving reality. Why don't you tell Shakespeare that the English language is too poor in its grammar. BALLS!!
wedward: -- and here are but a few sir francis bacon- bertrand russell - david store-js mill sir thomas more - adam smith --and the list goes on-please research before u make false statments on the the english and their language then u will get it right ----remember to put brain in gear before opening mouth or writing words --
Well said Sir Wedward. Empty barrels make the most sound. And who needs emptier barrels after hearing such heresies from a guy who describes the English language as poor in its grammar??
FlowerOfTheSun: Weddy!! Don't so harsh!!! How do you know this statement was not an "informed" statement?
Although I agree with you about the many amazing English writers and phylosophers, when I meet up with my friend who also peaks 3 languages totally fluently, we find ourselves using words in either French or Spanish because those words ARE more expressive and accurate to convey feeling or thought than the words that are available in English. Yes, the English language does have words that convey subtle differences sometimes BUT at times there is just NOT a word that exists that conveys something specific that DOES exist in an other language. JMHO
No, Flower, IMHO, which is not so H after all, I think that when a person talks like me and you, fluently in three languages, they become "language non specific", and tend to borrow words that suit their ways of expression, from the other languages. Each language has its idiomatic expressions, but those of us who study more than one language often do away with these idiomatic expressions, because they don't come to mind as easily as our word substitution in our colloquil expressions. I believe that every language has more than one way of expressing the equivalent of another language's idiomatic expressions.
There are some expressions that the world has adopted as international expressions like Raison d' etre, or Laissez faire, (excuse my French spelling, it is not one of the languages I talk fluently). These will always be used to make special emphasis when talking in any language.
antcus: Well said Sir Wedward. Empty barrels make the most sound. And who needs emptier barrels after hearing such heresies from a guy who describes the English language as poor in its grammar??
Then we should all be speaking Latin. In that way we could understand Everything!... and there`d be no need to have "common" names for anything ... just the original Latin name!
So, yes, Latin it is. Then no-one would speak in a Foreign Tongue, and we wouldnt have to learn so many different languages. And just think how easy that would make life for doctors and lawyers .... they would not be able to hood-wink us with all their gobbly gook speak!
smoky: Then we should all be speaking Latin. In that way we could understand Everything!... and there`d be no need to have "common" names for anything ... just the original Latin name!
So, yes, Latin it is. Then no-one would speak in a Foreign Tongue, and we wouldnt have to learn so many different languages. And just think how easy that would make life for doctors and lawyers .... they would not be able to hood-wink us with all their gobbly gook speak!
Don't worry they'd have their Own Pork-Latin in a jiffy!
smoky: Then we should all be speaking Latin. In that way we could understand Everything!... and there`d be no need to have "common" names for anything ... just the original Latin name!
So, yes, Latin it is. Then no-one would speak in a Foreign Tongue, and we wouldnt have to learn so many different languages. And just think how easy that would make life for doctors and lawyers .... they would not be able to hood-wink us with all their gobbly gook speak!
How you can recommend that Latin can be a universal language, I mean by what criteria. How about the Chinese ? More than one billion population learn it as a mother language and probably this is the biggest language in this regard ?
Roomi: How you can recommend that Latin can be a universal language, I mean by what criteria. How about the Chinese ? More than one billion population learn it as a mother language and probably this is the biggest language in this regard ?
Roomi: How you can recommend that Latin can be a universal language, I mean by what criteria. How about the Chinese ? More than one billion population learn it as a mother language and probably this is the biggest language in this regard ?
Well, Scrap the Latin, make it Chinese! That will make it easier for the doctors, lawyers and horticulturists with their Latin - then they can continue to charge extra for "interpretations".
antcus: No Conrad. The Nokia slogan is "connecting people". But it becomes useless if after connecting these people, they cannot speak to each other because of the language barrier. My motto "one people (the whole world population) one language!!
Hmmm.... maybe better solution would be to learn more languages
I am quite fluent in 5 ( + ability to communicate with other Slavs as well ) and still find it amusing if I can learn some more .... every nation thinks different way and this shows in their language....
Don't forget eastern half of EU speaks Russian as second language (was taught in school) - why English than?? Half of Africa speaks French.... Brasilians Portugese....
Who is to define which language should be "the chosen one"??
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