Are children (18)

Nov 1, 2008 3:38 PM CST Are children
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
really innocent from birth?

Take "Lord of the flies as an example"... dunno
Nov 1, 2008 3:57 PM CST Are children
phoenix
phoenixphoenixparis, Ile-de-France France81 Threads 4 Polls 3,669 Posts
I don't know about being innocent in the sense of 'Lord of the flies' but they are defenceless..

If you believe that there are genes for being 'evil' then no they aren't all innocent..
Nov 2, 2008 1:31 AM CST Are children
hasagoodheart
hasagoodhearthasagoodheartGalway, Ireland23 Threads 410 Posts
In that they are totally trusting of others, yes they are innocent.

Lord of the flies was I think about boys of about 8 to 10 years old, so am not sure would class them as still innocent children by then.

What changes innocenct to cautious is life experiences I suppose.

Hopefully though enough positive parenting can help them hold onto the trusting attitude that is so important for adults.

Peter
Nov 2, 2008 4:22 AM CST Are children
MARTI
MARTIMARTImsida, Majjistral Malta44 Threads 2,726 Posts
wave Hey Uliiiiiii wave

I strongly beleive that children are the sweetest, innocent, human beings that one can enjoy having. One have to bear in mind that we are individuals and have different characters which sometimes can reflect on our children.
Nov 2, 2008 4:39 AM CST Are children
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
hasagoodheart: In that they are totally trusting of others, yes they are innocent.

Lord of the flies was I think about boys of about 8 to 10 years old, so am not sure would class them as still innocent children by then.

What changes innocenct to cautious is life experiences I suppose.

Hopefully though enough positive parenting can help them hold onto the trusting attitude that is so important for adults.

Peter



Oh yeah doh it was boys only stuckin Lord of the flies... frustrated

I should have asked "are girls really innocent as children?" flirty
Nov 2, 2008 4:40 AM CST Are children
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
MARTI: Hey Uliiiiiii

I strongly beleive that children are the sweetest, innocent, human beings that one can enjoy having. One have to bear in mind that we are individuals and have different characters which sometimes can reflect on our children.



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Nov 7, 2008 7:59 AM CST Are children
littleboy
littleboylittleboyAnkara, Central Anatolia Turkey3 Threads 121 Posts
Deep conversation but,some kids are really nasty.I know the reason.
It s because of their parents.It s so important if the lady smokes during pregnancy or what she eates.

I d bring organic food to my wife during pregnancy.Definetely fig,honey from straight from the beehive,fresh fish etc.

Sometimes the reason is differnt that kids are nasty.Cause they are little human beings who can not react at once but understand most of the things going on.
Nov 7, 2008 8:06 AM CST Are children
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Children are innnocent, until they learn to become devious.

And unless that is stopped then they become devious as adults.
Nov 7, 2008 8:08 AM CST Are children
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
littleboy: Deep conversation but,some kids are really nasty.I know the reason.
It s because of their parents.It s so important if the lady smokes during pregnancy or what she eates.

I d bring organic food to my wife during pregnancy.Definetely fig,honey from straight from the beehive,fresh fish etc.

Sometimes the reason is differnt that kids are nasty.Cause they are little human beings who can not react at once but understand most of the things going on.


Are you stating that if a woman smokes during her pregnancy, that her child will be nasty?

I am aware of the side effects of smoking, and the damage it can do to a child, but make them nasty? That's a new one on me, but if you have information that I do not know about, then I am all ears.
Nov 7, 2008 2:59 PM CST Are children
littleboy
littleboylittleboyAnkara, Central Anatolia Turkey3 Threads 121 Posts
This is my project research,without being a scientist.What you say is true smoking mama s kid can be angry and not cooperating with other friends.
Listen to me,i dont ask you to stop you can reduce or not smoke untill you have the baby.

If i have a pregnant wife one day i ll bring her soemfresh juice of any kind of fruit in the mornings as soon as you wake up.

Also tip for smokers,just change the times you are smoking,for example you want to smoke now do it 10 minutes later.Race with yourself.
Yes that s it human beings are creatures who races with themselves,who tests themselves.

i hope i could help.
Nov 8, 2008 9:38 AM CST Are children
gingerb
gingerbgingerbLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland7 Threads 1 Polls 4,139 Posts
Sommerauer71: Are you stating that if a woman smokes during her pregnancy, that her child will be nasty?

I am aware of the side effects of smoking, and the damage it can do to a child, but make them nasty? That's a new one on me, but if you have information that I do not know about, then I am all ears.


Smoking during pregnancy does not make a child nasty. That is complete nonsense.

I had 3 kids I carred to term out of 7. I gave up smoking before I even got pregnant in case it would hurt them, or make them more predisposed to asthma or something.

My first son is great, beautiful in every way, sweet natured and kind.

Then I lost one. When I was having my daughter I had very low blood pressure and they told me I would lose her too within a few days, at 6 months pregnant.. I was distraught. I went home and someone gave me a cigarette. It made me feel better and having nothing to lose, I carried on smoking over the weekend. When I went in to the hospital on the Monday morning, the doctors told me that everything had changed. My blood pressure was normal again, baby was feeding again off the placenta. She would live. They asked me what I did differently and I told them I smoked. They told me to carry on, as it kept my blood pressure raised to normal, so I did.

She is the light of my life. Generous, sweet, funny, caring, in fact the best of the 3 I have. She has a wonderful nurturing nature and everyone loves her.

I didn't smoke with any of my subsequent pregnancies, and lost 3 more kids before haivng my youngest daughter, who is also good natured, caring and a fantastic mother herself.

Smoking during pregnancy makes no difference to the nature of a child. Parenting is the only thing that will make or break a child's propensity to be a good adult. No children are by nature bad. It is not an inherent trait.

I have fostered kids who were born to drug addicted parents, one even to a parent who tried overdosing on alcohol to get rid of her, and none of them were inherently bad either, just mixed up because of lack of good parenting.

Any child who is shown love, will learn to be loving.wine
Nov 8, 2008 9:39 AM CST Are children
gingerb
gingerbgingerbLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland7 Threads 1 Polls 4,139 Posts
Sommerauer71: Children are innnocent, until they learn to become devious.

And unless that is stopped then they become devious as adults.


I'm with you totally on this one.thumbs up wine hug
Nov 8, 2008 9:44 AM CST Are children
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta161 Threads 11 Polls 10,711 Posts
I have virtually no experience as a parent, but everything you say syncs with the little experience I do have, and of course, straight-forward common sense.....


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gingerb:

I have fostered kids who were born to drug addicted parents, one even to a parent who tried overdosing on alcohol to get rid of her, and none of them were inherently bad either, just mixed up because of lack of good parenting.

Any child who is shown love, will learn to be loving.
Nov 8, 2008 9:48 AM CST Are children
gingerb
gingerbgingerbLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland7 Threads 1 Polls 4,139 Posts
Lagoona22: I have virtually no experience as a parent, but everything you say syncs with the little experience I do have, and of course, straight-forward common sense.....


Most of it is common sense, that is true. That, and always reminding yourself that you are accountable for everything they do and think...wine
Nov 8, 2008 9:54 AM CST Are children
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta161 Threads 11 Polls 10,711 Posts
I always thought that having and raising a family was the greatest learning experience in life, because they force you to experience birth, youth, and growing up again, through them...this "second rite of passage" is the single greatest enriching experience an adult can have in life, and is the one which gives us our depth and maturity and wisdom...I kinda feel that I missed the boat, not so much because I feel that I desperately wanted to have a family, but rather because without the experience, one is simply incomplete as a human being...
conversing

gingerb: Most of it is common sense, that is true. That, and always reminding yourself that you are accountable for everything they do and think...
Nov 8, 2008 10:11 AM CST Are children
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
gingerb: Smoking during pregnancy does not make a child nasty. That is complete nonsense.

I had 3 kids I carred to term out of 7. I gave up smoking before I even got pregnant in case it would hurt them, or make them more predisposed to asthma or something.

My first son is great, beautiful in every way, sweet natured and kind.

Then I lost one. When I was having my daughter I had very low blood pressure and they told me I would lose her too within a few days, at 6 months pregnant.. I was distraught. I went home and someone gave me a cigarette. It made me feel better and having nothing to lose, I carried on smoking over the weekend. When I went in to the hospital on the Monday morning, the doctors told me that everything had changed. My blood pressure was normal again, baby was feeding again off the placenta. She would live. They asked me what I did differently and I told them I smoked. They told me to carry on, as it kept my blood pressure raised to normal, so I did.

She is the light of my life. Generous, sweet, funny, caring, in fact the best of the 3 I have. She has a wonderful nurturing nature and everyone loves her.

I didn't smoke with any of my subsequent pregnancies, and lost 3 more kids before haivng my youngest daughter, who is also good natured, caring and a fantastic mother herself.

Smoking during pregnancy makes no difference to the nature of a child. Parenting is the only thing that will make or break a child's propensity to be a good adult. No children are by nature bad. It is not an inherent trait.

I have fostered kids who were born to drug addicted parents, one even to a parent who tried overdosing on alcohol to get rid of her, and none of them were inherently bad either, just mixed up because of lack of good parenting.

Any child who is shown love, will learn to be loving.



I thought it was nonsense but I had to double check.


Parenting even if not the biologiccal parents is, you are right. the deal breaker in any child's life.
Nov 8, 2008 11:11 AM CST Are children
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta161 Threads 11 Polls 10,711 Posts
Ginger, your posts are gems...thanks for this insight...You have given a treasure trove of an insight here, as well as a brilliant business idea...I'll be calling the company "Rent-a-Kid"...

..that way, you can experience being a parent for a week, and before the novelty wears off, you can give them back, and then go home and get some sleep....


laugh wave


gingerb: The lovely thing about children is.....

Raising them doesn't always make you feel wise or complete. In fact it's almost guaranteed to drive you insane......
Nov 8, 2008 11:16 AM CST Are children
gingerb
gingerbgingerbLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland7 Threads 1 Polls 4,139 Posts
Lagoona22: Ginger, your posts are gems...thanks for this insight...You have given a treasure trove of an insight here, as well as a brilliant business idea...I'll be calling the company "Rent-a-Kid"...

..that way, you can experience being a parent for a week, and before the novelty wears off, you can give them back, and then go home and get some sleep....


That is what being a grandparent is all about....rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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