Any serious environmentalists here? ( Archived) (71)

Nov 7, 2008 7:46 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
shipoker58: does seem redundant...when there are so many illegals trying to find housing out west!!
rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 7, 2008 7:47 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
lorax111: Then we need to do more than just recycle, tho thats a good start. This planet has a lot of problems and they directly affect you right now. Sure we will probably end life on this planet eventualy but whats the hurry? Dennis



Maybe we could make these big giant solar ovens and put about 50% of the worlds population in them. That should help. angel
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Nov 7, 2008 7:52 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
winddancer1950
winddancer1950winddancer1950Clarksville, Tennessee USA21 Posts
I am forever conscious of the earth. I re-use things, recycle things into new/alternate uses. I will not buy meats that are packaged in plastic containers that are twice the needed size. I shop at thrift stores, make and alter my clothes and that of friends. I buy whole foods products when I can and use glass (washable/re-usuable) containers for those products. I don't buy styrofoam cups or plates. I made my own "shopping bags" of quilt fabric and heavier canvas and use those for my groceries instead of plastic. If I end up with plastic bags I re-use them as packing materials or for storing garden things. I don't use pesticides (I rely on earth friendly garden supplies). I use public transportation and car pool. I don't buy into consumerism and don't buy what I don't need and don't go into debt for what I buy. At my age, I don't need a lot more of anything. It may not seem that I do a lot, but every little bit helps.
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Nov 7, 2008 8:24 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
I think most modern cars could probably run off a sniff of the exhaust fumes of one of my bikes. Please don't tell the EPA. uh oh
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Nov 7, 2008 8:27 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
lorax111
lorax111lorax111richmond, Virginia USA22 Threads 2 Polls 1,002 Posts
Indyfella: Maybe we could make these big giant solar ovens and put about 50% of the worlds population in them. That should help.


We have allready got one of them and we are not halfing anything, less you concider that we are not filtering birth controll out of the water.

Dennis
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Nov 7, 2008 8:30 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
Ouchh
OuchhOuchhharrison, Arkansas USA8 Threads 140 Posts
lorax111: Then we need to do more than just recycle, tho thats a good start. This planet has a lot of problems and they directly affect you right now. Sure we will probably end life on this planet eventualy but whats the hurry? Dennis
No hurry, but there is no stoping evolution, time will do as time will do.
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Nov 7, 2008 8:35 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
Moema
MoemaMoemaBrasilia, Distrito Federal Brazil45 Threads 3 Polls 730 Posts
I have just got home and going to bed, but I´ll come back and answer to you guys ASAP.
G´night people! bouquet
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Nov 7, 2008 8:39 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
rwantin: I think most modern cars could probably run off a sniff of the exhaust fumes of one of my bikes. Please don't tell the EPA.



Little do you know that I have Arnold's phone number. You've been reported. professor

















grin
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Nov 7, 2008 8:40 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
Indyfella: Little do you know that I have Arnold's phone number. You've been reported.


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing Damn you.

grin
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Nov 7, 2008 8:42 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Moema: I have just got home and going to bed, but I´ll come back and answer to you guys ASAP.
G´night people!



I m not a serious environmentalist but I have fought cases against deliberate environmental damage done solely because the person felt it was their right to do so in the absence of local laws but failed to realize that Federal environmental laws apply to all Native reserves in Canada...and we won too...the prosecution was done privately because the local council and the authorities refused to do anything about it...so after 2 years a group of us pressed charges through the Justice of the Peace...I put together the case and since I was just out of school from my Paralegal course..we hired a lawyer to argue it in court and the guy was convicted on 2 counts...and now is back up before the same judge on more charges over environmental damage caused by a quarry he chose to open...again...without following and laws...unsafe blasting practices etc...and the weird part is...the judge told him the last time he didn't want to see him before his court again...so yep...there is karma in this world....wave wink roll eyes help grin doh
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Nov 7, 2008 10:07 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
rwantin: Damn you.



Don't be a girly man now, Robert! scold
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Nov 7, 2008 10:09 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
Moema: Hi Mastic, how are you?
If you´re interested in finding out more and debating the subject, please do stick around and let´s talk!!
Thank you, I'll keep reading the post.thumbs up
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Nov 7, 2008 10:11 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
Indyfella: Don't be a girly man now, Robert!


Moi? But I just grew a beard and all. Manning up <belch>
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Nov 7, 2008 10:16 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
princess49503
princess49503princess49503grand rapids, Michigan USA18 Threads 1 Polls 1,485 Posts
mastic55: I try to keep the earth clean,, the mayor of New York just introduced a bill to charge 6 cents on plastic bags when shopping, I think that's a little much and he's doing it for money not the environment.JMO


I don't use plastic bags anymore. A friend in my autocad class makes heavy duty canvas bags, thats what I use. He buys all his materials from Michigan vendors and of course the bags are made here in michigan.

http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080506/MULTIMEDIA02/80505016

This is why I refuse to use plastic bags.

I also refuse to by soda pop or bottled water. I have an aluminum SIGG bottle that I carry around with me.

This sounds geeky, I know. Kiss my butt. I'm doing my part and I feel good about it.head banger
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Nov 7, 2008 10:40 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
princess49503: I don't use plastic bags anymore. A friend in my autocad class makes heavy duty canvas bags, thats what I use. He buys all his materials from Michigan vendors and of course the bags are made here in michigan.



This is why I refuse to use plastic bags.
I also refuse to by soda pop or bottled water. I have an aluminum SIGG bottle that I carry around with me.

This sounds geeky, I know. Kiss my butt. I'm doing my part and I feel good about it.



That's probably not environmentally friendly. rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 7, 2008 10:48 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Moema: Anyone seriously interested in exchanging ideas and news on the subject? I´d like to meet you people and talk "outside the joke area". Please introduce yourselves! Either mail me or post here, but I´d rather you post so that we all know who everyone is. I hope there´s a lot of us around!


I am custom home developer. I'm beginning to ramp-up for introducing "green" products and equipment into my new homes .......
That what you're looking for ?
Name is John
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Nov 7, 2008 10:52 PM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
princess49503: I don't use plastic bags anymore. A friend in my autocad class makes heavy duty canvas bags, thats what I use. He buys all his materials from Michigan vendors and of course the bags are made here in michigan.

Good for you Princess, I saw a movie about where it all winds-up .......................
A guy discovered a HUGE area in the middle of the pacific ocean where all the plastics have been accumulating . It was absolutely horrifying !



This is why I refuse to use plastic bags.
I also refuse to by soda pop or bottled water. I have an aluminum SIGG bottle that I carry around with me.

This sounds geeky, I know. Kiss my butt. I'm doing my part and I feel good about it.


Good for you Princess, I saw a movie about where it all winds-up .......................
A guy discovered a HUGE area in the middle of the pacific ocean where all the plastics have been accumulating . It was absolutely horrifying !
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Nov 8, 2008 12:57 AM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
Moema: I wanted to address this post carefully.
I think it´s a very interesting point of view you have. It´s made me think, because I avoid fanatism and radicalism as much as I can, but thinking about it, I´m a radical myself, so I´ll have to do some thinking about that.
Your country supports many environment protection programs around the world and is one of the countries with the highest ratio of protected forest. How do you see those programs, do you think the money is being well invested or is it just for show off?
How´s the money raised internally and who defines the policies on its application?
Those are the first questions I´m curious about, but feel free if there´s anything else you know and may want to tell us about.


So far the majority of all the various ecological/ green groups are fairly pleased with the responses from the eco-friendly programs funded by the government agencies and by private corporations. Their green philosophies are expanding due to the constant involvement of groups and private citizens in their strong directions as to what will help the local and international environmental interests, as after all, the better the better the environment is, the better it is for people to prosper and care for it. Our forests are extremely important to us and if you look into all the related projects that cover soil conservation, reclamation, to the continuing seeding and harvesting methods and are now tied in with the cleaner air projects the inter connective factors are indeed having a positive effect throughout all of Europe. Mutually beneficent projects for all rivers including those in many areas of Russia are beginning to show positive results which actually shows promise among the younger generation even in Russia to get totally involved. They also wish to keep their forests and expand them as we have all come to realize, trees help clean the air we breath and factory technology needs to drastically change in regards to polluting emissions. Toxic pollutants in our air drift around our world thus are a danger to all. Many of us think that these toxic clouds should be included in all weather news but there is much opposition to this . Hopefully this will also be overcome as this new aspect gains support. Hopefully the Ministry on the environment will feel the pressures of the health concerns enough to in turn pressure the media to make it a regular report. Hopefully this will embarrass those creating these toxic clouds into cleaning their act up or to shut their operations down. Mutual concerns for mutual survival.
If it is of any help, read any of the books by Fritjof Capra to understand our interconnectedness of all living systems. %)
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Nov 8, 2008 1:02 AM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
solitare: So far the majority of all the various ecological/ green groups are fairly pleased with the responses from the eco-friendly programs funded by the government agencies and by private corporations. Their green philosophies are expanding due to the constant involvement of groups and private citizens in their strong directions as to what will help the local and international environmental interests, as after all, the better the better the environment is, the better it is for people to prosper and care for it. Our forests are extremely important to us and if you look into all the related projects that cover soil conservation, reclamation, to the continuing seeding and harvesting methods and are now tied in with the cleaner air projects the inter connective factors are indeed having a positive effect throughout all of Europe. Mutually beneficent projects for all rivers including those in many areas of Russia are beginning to show positive results which actually shows promise among the younger generation even in Russia to get totally involved. They also wish to keep their forests and expand them as we have all come to realize, trees help clean the air we breath and factory technology needs to drastically change in regards to polluting emissions. Toxic pollutants in our air drift around our world thus are a danger to all. Many of us think that these toxic clouds should be included in all weather news but there is much opposition to this . Hopefully this will also be overcome as this new aspect gains support. Hopefully the Ministry on the environment will feel the pressures of the health concerns enough to in turn pressure the media to make it a regular report. Hopefully this will embarrass those creating these toxic clouds into cleaning their act up or to shut their operations down. Mutual concerns for mutual survival.
If it is of any help, read any of the books by Fritjof Capra to understand our interconnectedness of all living systems. %)


Germany is a world leader in solar and alternative energy right ? What do you think initiated the mentality change there to this direction ?
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Nov 8, 2008 1:25 AM CST Any serious environmentalists here?
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
jvaski: Germany is a world leader in solar and alternative energy right ? What do you think initiated the mentality change there to this direction ?


Prior to WW2, many projects were started in the 'Nordic Countries' involved research into solar energy and its uses as well as on going projects from the turn of the century experiments with alternative energies which received a huge boost from the works of Nicholas Tesla. At the same time, there were the simultaneous experiments on 'heavy water' needed to produce the atomic bomb...sort of a one hand doesn't know what the other is doing; not much has changed in that 'contest' we are still working for both ways to live and means to kill more of us...hopefully, our collective mentality is for life and not death, either by the misuse of atoms or by misuse of the harnessing of the sun's power.
After the war, the research projects started again and experiments done asap ; this is what I think tipped the balance to go full speed, positive results that solar energies could be tapped and produce so many facets as has the projects on wind power and electrical energies from that.
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