lorax111: Then we need to do more than just recycle, tho thats a good start. This planet has a lot of problems and they directly affect you right now. Sure we will probably end life on this planet eventualy but whats the hurry? Dennis
Maybe we could make these big giant solar ovens and put about 50% of the worlds population in them. That should help.
I am forever conscious of the earth. I re-use things, recycle things into new/alternate uses. I will not buy meats that are packaged in plastic containers that are twice the needed size. I shop at thrift stores, make and alter my clothes and that of friends. I buy whole foods products when I can and use glass (washable/re-usuable) containers for those products. I don't buy styrofoam cups or plates. I made my own "shopping bags" of quilt fabric and heavier canvas and use those for my groceries instead of plastic. If I end up with plastic bags I re-use them as packing materials or for storing garden things. I don't use pesticides (I rely on earth friendly garden supplies). I use public transportation and car pool. I don't buy into consumerism and don't buy what I don't need and don't go into debt for what I buy. At my age, I don't need a lot more of anything. It may not seem that I do a lot, but every little bit helps.
lorax111: Then we need to do more than just recycle, tho thats a good start. This planet has a lot of problems and they directly affect you right now. Sure we will probably end life on this planet eventualy but whats the hurry? Dennis
No hurry, but there is no stoping evolution, time will do as time will do.
Moema: I have just got home and going to bed, but I´ll come back and answer to you guys ASAP. G´night people!
I m not a serious environmentalist but I have fought cases against deliberate environmental damage done solely because the person felt it was their right to do so in the absence of local laws but failed to realize that Federal environmental laws apply to all Native reserves in Canada...and we won too...the prosecution was done privately because the local council and the authorities refused to do anything about it...so after 2 years a group of us pressed charges through the Justice of the Peace...I put together the case and since I was just out of school from my Paralegal course..we hired a lawyer to argue it in court and the guy was convicted on 2 counts...and now is back up before the same judge on more charges over environmental damage caused by a quarry he chose to open...again...without following and laws...unsafe blasting practices etc...and the weird part is...the judge told him the last time he didn't want to see him before his court again...so yep...there is karma in this world....
mastic55: I try to keep the earth clean,, the mayor of New York just introduced a bill to charge 6 cents on plastic bags when shopping, I think that's a little much and he's doing it for money not the environment.JMO
I don't use plastic bags anymore. A friend in my autocad class makes heavy duty canvas bags, thats what I use. He buys all his materials from Michigan vendors and of course the bags are made here in michigan.
princess49503: I don't use plastic bags anymore. A friend in my autocad class makes heavy duty canvas bags, thats what I use. He buys all his materials from Michigan vendors and of course the bags are made here in michigan.
Moema: Anyone seriously interested in exchanging ideas and news on the subject? I´d like to meet you people and talk "outside the joke area". Please introduce yourselves! Either mail me or post here, but I´d rather you post so that we all know who everyone is. I hope there´s a lot of us around!
I am custom home developer. I'm beginning to ramp-up for introducing "green" products and equipment into my new homes ....... That what you're looking for ? Name is John
princess49503: I don't use plastic bags anymore. A friend in my autocad class makes heavy duty canvas bags, thats what I use. He buys all his materials from Michigan vendors and of course the bags are made here in michigan.
Good for you Princess, I saw a movie about where it all winds-up ....................... A guy discovered a HUGE area in the middle of the pacific ocean where all the plastics have been accumulating . It was absolutely horrifying !
This is why I refuse to use plastic bags. I also refuse to by soda pop or bottled water. I have an aluminum SIGG bottle that I carry around with me.
This sounds geeky, I know. Kiss my butt. I'm doing my part and I feel good about it.
Good for you Princess, I saw a movie about where it all winds-up ....................... A guy discovered a HUGE area in the middle of the pacific ocean where all the plastics have been accumulating . It was absolutely horrifying !
Moema: I wanted to address this post carefully. I think it´s a very interesting point of view you have. It´s made me think, because I avoid fanatism and radicalism as much as I can, but thinking about it, I´m a radical myself, so I´ll have to do some thinking about that. Your country supports many environment protection programs around the world and is one of the countries with the highest ratio of protected forest. How do you see those programs, do you think the money is being well invested or is it just for show off? How´s the money raised internally and who defines the policies on its application? Those are the first questions I´m curious about, but feel free if there´s anything else you know and may want to tell us about.
So far the majority of all the various ecological/ green groups are fairly pleased with the responses from the eco-friendly programs funded by the government agencies and by private corporations. Their green philosophies are expanding due to the constant involvement of groups and private citizens in their strong directions as to what will help the local and international environmental interests, as after all, the better the better the environment is, the better it is for people to prosper and care for it. Our forests are extremely important to us and if you look into all the related projects that cover soil conservation, reclamation, to the continuing seeding and harvesting methods and are now tied in with the cleaner air projects the inter connective factors are indeed having a positive effect throughout all of Europe. Mutually beneficent projects for all rivers including those in many areas of Russia are beginning to show positive results which actually shows promise among the younger generation even in Russia to get totally involved. They also wish to keep their forests and expand them as we have all come to realize, trees help clean the air we breath and factory technology needs to drastically change in regards to polluting emissions. Toxic pollutants in our air drift around our world thus are a danger to all. Many of us think that these toxic clouds should be included in all weather news but there is much opposition to this . Hopefully this will also be overcome as this new aspect gains support. Hopefully the Ministry on the environment will feel the pressures of the health concerns enough to in turn pressure the media to make it a regular report. Hopefully this will embarrass those creating these toxic clouds into cleaning their act up or to shut their operations down. Mutual concerns for mutual survival. If it is of any help, read any of the books by Fritjof Capra to understand our interconnectedness of all living systems. %)
solitare: So far the majority of all the various ecological/ green groups are fairly pleased with the responses from the eco-friendly programs funded by the government agencies and by private corporations. Their green philosophies are expanding due to the constant involvement of groups and private citizens in their strong directions as to what will help the local and international environmental interests, as after all, the better the better the environment is, the better it is for people to prosper and care for it. Our forests are extremely important to us and if you look into all the related projects that cover soil conservation, reclamation, to the continuing seeding and harvesting methods and are now tied in with the cleaner air projects the inter connective factors are indeed having a positive effect throughout all of Europe. Mutually beneficent projects for all rivers including those in many areas of Russia are beginning to show positive results which actually shows promise among the younger generation even in Russia to get totally involved. They also wish to keep their forests and expand them as we have all come to realize, trees help clean the air we breath and factory technology needs to drastically change in regards to polluting emissions. Toxic pollutants in our air drift around our world thus are a danger to all. Many of us think that these toxic clouds should be included in all weather news but there is much opposition to this . Hopefully this will also be overcome as this new aspect gains support. Hopefully the Ministry on the environment will feel the pressures of the health concerns enough to in turn pressure the media to make it a regular report. Hopefully this will embarrass those creating these toxic clouds into cleaning their act up or to shut their operations down. Mutual concerns for mutual survival. If it is of any help, read any of the books by Fritjof Capra to understand our interconnectedness of all living systems. %)
Germany is a world leader in solar and alternative energy right ? What do you think initiated the mentality change there to this direction ?
jvaski: Germany is a world leader in solar and alternative energy right ? What do you think initiated the mentality change there to this direction ?
Prior to WW2, many projects were started in the 'Nordic Countries' involved research into solar energy and its uses as well as on going projects from the turn of the century experiments with alternative energies which received a huge boost from the works of Nicholas Tesla. At the same time, there were the simultaneous experiments on 'heavy water' needed to produce the atomic bomb...sort of a one hand doesn't know what the other is doing; not much has changed in that 'contest' we are still working for both ways to live and means to kill more of us...hopefully, our collective mentality is for life and not death, either by the misuse of atoms or by misuse of the harnessing of the sun's power. After the war, the research projects started again and experiments done asap ; this is what I think tipped the balance to go full speed, positive results that solar energies could be tapped and produce so many facets as has the projects on wind power and electrical energies from that.
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