cristina: Do you really think that i bring my own problems in here? how naive.
Anyway, it's important to discuss stuff and you've detailed very interesting ways of dealing with the issue. By doing so, you are not only showing how you are but also helping people who think the way you do to organise the ideas better or simply think things over. We do that often, don't we? We learn here!
No, you do not bring your problems in here.
You are a delight always Cris, I enjoy reading your posts.
It is vital to discuss stuff, and even here.
It is our oputlet, the anonymity of a keyboard enablels us to be free with our minds...
cristina: Most won't take it when they get it? Even if they are in trouble dealing with the issue in the way they did before the advice? Why do you think they don't take the advice gingerb?
There are many reasons, but not all of them reasonable......
Many people like to be right, even when they are destroying themselves and others. A bit like an alcoholic who says "I don't have a problem"....
Nov 7, 2008 5:05 PM CST Dr. Phil helps people by judging them?
KevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK6 Threads433 Posts
KevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK433 posts
gingerb: There are many reasons, but not all of them reasonable......
Many people like to be right, even when they are destroying themselves and others. A bit like an alcoholic who says "I don't have a problem"....
Then there are those who make out they listen to advise, but won't act upon it because the truth behind the advise would hurt to much, they close their eyes and become blinkered.
cristinaOPLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
Kevint: Then there are those who make out they listen to advise, but won't act upon it because the truth behind the advise would hurt to much, they close their eyes and become blinkered.
Kevint: Then there are those who make out they listen to advise, but won't act upon it because the truth behind the advise would hurt to much, they close their eyes and become blinkered.
I do find these days that people appear more sensitive to hearing anything that is not coming from their own little dream world. In years past it was easier to take advice because it came from people whom you knew had been through hard times and you trusted them.
Maybe it is the absence of trust or the fact that people don't really know each other, and certainly don't respect each other, that makes this difference.
All I know is that there is a fragility there in the psyche of people today , that certainly wasnt there 30+ years ago.
gingerb: I do find these days that people appear more sensitive to hearing anything that is not coming from their own little dream world. In years past it was easier to take advice because it came from people whom you knew had been through hard times and you trusted them.
Maybe it is the absence of trust or the fact that people don't really know each other, and certainly don't respect each other, that makes this difference.
All I know is that there is a fragility there in the psyche of people today , that certainly wasnt there 30+ years ago.
I know that was aimed at Kevin,Ginger,but I agree.
Sometimes, and I do find that here, that you can say something, and it is misunderstood. Then people blow, their mates come along and bang the situation gets out of control.
Trust is hard to find on a forum, we rely on words and words alone.
Not often I accept advice, not often I ask for it, not because I know it all, but I go to people here who I know I can trust, and those are less than a handful, not because people are not trustworthy, just because I know them and what time they take to spend with me.
If I need advice there are a few, that I would approach.
But ultimately, I have people I can go and knock their door and say, I need some help.
cristinaOPLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
gingerb: I do find these days that people appear more sensitive to hearing anything that is not coming from their own little dream world. In years past it was easier to take advice because it came from people whom you knew had been through hard times and you trusted them.
Maybe it is the absence of trust or the fact that people don't really know each other, and certainly don't respect each other, that makes this difference.
All I know is that there is a fragility there in the psyche of people today , that certainly wasnt there 30+ years ago.
New technologies don't allow us to educate better people...we are busy in here.
You know what, i used to "babysit" a kid that didn't need me because when i got into her life, she already had her internet world and could perfectly be fine alone, in her bedroom. She was 8, her parents were great business people, he was always abroad, she had to do much, sometimes until 11pm. Well, they taught i'd be a great influence and even socialising in the kitchen because they thought we'd have fun while me cooking for them (the girl-8 and the boy14- this one didn't need me because he was also in his bedroom, his world). The mother told me she had to go to bed at 9. I came in with a new discipline, "forcing" the kid to get in bed at 9 and she always telling me she was going to wait for her mother. I felt so incompetent when the mother came in at midnight and the girl was still awake. Later, i found out that i was to change that mistake. Well, it was not possible because it wasn't my role. Then, i became a simple guard. The kid girl didn't need me for nothing! See? Those kids, will they listen or be ready to share stuff like the old days?
Nov 7, 2008 5:35 PM CST Dr. Phil helps people by judging them?
KevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK6 Threads433 Posts
KevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK433 posts
gingerb: I do find these days that people appear more sensitive to hearing anything that is not coming from their own little dream world. In years past it was easier to take advice because it came from people whom you knew had been through hard times and you trusted them.
Maybe it is the absence of trust or the fact that people don't really know each other, and certainly don't respect each other, that makes this difference.
All I know is that there is a fragility there in the psyche of people today , that certainly wasnt there 30+ years ago.
Is that not a sad reflection of today, I agree with your comment, but it truly saddens me that it is so,, I'm not sure why, it maybe as you say lack of trust, respect or whatever, but when there is a connection I am sure that advise is taken on board and put to good use.
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