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Dec 14, 2008 7:03 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
I was married in the Catholic Church and got divorced and remarried again. Later when I returned to the Catholic Church they did not consider me divorced but still married. They told me I would have to get an annulment, which I never did.

Now should I consider myself married for life even though I did have a divorce. My second marriage as far as they are concerned never was legal. I guess I did not have to pay for a divorce since the Church never considered me married.

So now am I married or single?dunno
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Dec 14, 2008 7:05 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
kitty01: I was married in the Catholic Church and got divorced and remarried again. Later when I returned to the Catholic Church they did not consider me divorced but still married. They told me I would have to get an annulment, which I never did.

Now should I consider myself married for life even though I did have a divorce. My second marriage as far as they are concerned never was legal. I guess I did not have to pay for a divorce since the Church never considered me married.

So now am I married or single?


I think since you are still married to one and were never married to the other in the eyes of the church that they now cancel each other out and you are now back to being single again........wave wink roll eyes laugh hug teddybear bouquet
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Dec 14, 2008 7:05 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
I do not consider myself married as long as I do not get involved with a guy from the Catholic Church.laugh
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Dec 14, 2008 7:07 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
kitty01: I do not consider myself married as long as I do not get involved with a guy from the Catholic Church.



Right..if you do you'll have a harem under the Catholic Church.......wave wink roll eyes dunno uh oh laugh
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Dec 14, 2008 7:08 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: I think since you are still married to one and were never married to the other in the eyes of the church that they now cancel each other out and you are now back to being single again........


I like your way of thinking. I have not been back to the Catholic Church in years but now my grand daughter is going to a Catholic School. My daughter had to sign a paper that it is alright for her to be taught their ways. Tammy is now thinking maybe we should attend the Catholic Church, which I never liked, too boring.
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Dec 14, 2008 7:09 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
I left the Catholic Church before getting married the second time because of this. To me, you're single. To the Catholic Church, you'll be married to that husband until one of you dies. Here, that's unless you pay some ridiculous sum of over $400 and let some priests get their jollies off of your most personal details of your married life. I've got a news flash...I'm not paying them to get their rocks off on my personal life...and I'm single by law of the land.

TG, I never care about getting married in the Catholic Church again.



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Dec 14, 2008 7:11 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Right..if you do you'll have a harem under the Catholic Church.......


I would have to pay to get an annulment if the guy had one or he would be considered dating a married woman. When I found out what I had to go through to get an annulment that is when I decided if my divorce was good enough for the law then it was good enough for me.cool
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Dec 14, 2008 7:12 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
druidess6308: I left the Catholic Church before getting married the second time because of this. To me, you're single. To the Catholic Church, you'll be married to that husband until one of you dies. Here, that's unless you pay some ridiculous sum of over $400 and let some priests get their jollies off of your most personal details of your married life. I've got a news flash...I'm not paying them to get their rocks off on my personal life...and I'm single by law of the land.

TG, I never care about getting married in the Catholic Church again.




Can't say I blame ya there doll....kinda sounds a bit ridiculous to me...and they must make a lot from getting their jollies off....wave wink hug teddybear hug bouquet roll eyes
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Dec 14, 2008 7:14 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Can't say I blame ya there doll....kinda sounds a bit ridiculous to me...and they must make a lot from getting their jollies off....



rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing Yeah, more money for the church, m**turbation material for the priests...win/win for them.
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Dec 14, 2008 7:15 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
When the priest told me I was to get a annulment I asked how can that be as I thought you could only get one if you never slept with the guy. He told me that God did not put us together or he would not have treated me like he did so since God never put us together I could get the annulment.
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Dec 14, 2008 7:16 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
kitty01: I would have to pay to get an annulment if the guy had one or he would be considered dating a married woman. When I found out what I had to go through to get an annulment that is when I decided if my divorce was good enough for the law then it was good enough for me.


Well it is good enough...I mean geeze...being still married cause they say you are...UMMMMMMMM Ok...I say you were never married ...there...done...wave wink roll eyes laugh
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Dec 14, 2008 7:16 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
I am Catholic and my opinion is each organizatin has rules you must live by if you want to belong to that group. The Church is no different. Whether you like the rules are not you must follow them if you want to be part of that organization. If you believe in religion and you believe in the Catholic Church you can not pick and choose which rules you live by. This is not something you can cherry pick how to be a Catholic.
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Dec 14, 2008 7:18 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Big_John: I am Catholic and my opinion is each organizatin has rules you must live by if you want to belong to that group. The Church is no different. Whether you like the rules are not you must follow them if you want to be part of that organization. If you believe in religion and you believe in the Catholic Church you can not pick and choose which rules you live by. This is not something you can cherry pick how to be a Catholic.



This is true and the reason why I refuse to belong or be part of any organized religion....wave wink hug teddybear hug hug bouquet
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Dec 14, 2008 7:18 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
Big_John: I am Catholic and my opinion is each organization has rules you must live by if you want to belong to that group. The Church is no different. Whether you like the rules are not you must follow them if you want to be part of that organization. If you believe in religion and you believe in the Catholic Church you can not pick and choose which rules you live by. This is not something you can cherry pick how to be a Catholic.


It is not that, it is they allow you out of the marriage but do not call it a divorce. I do not see what the difference is from getting an annulment and getting a divorce.
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Dec 14, 2008 7:21 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
kitty01: It is not that, it is they allow you out of the marriage but do not call it a divorce. I do not see what the difference is from getting an annulment and getting a divorce.


Remember just like the courts the Catholic Church does not provide annuments in all cases. Also it takes many years in the Church and part of the process is trying to save the marriage.
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Dec 14, 2008 7:23 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
Big_John: Remember just like the courts the Catholic Church does not provide annuments in all cases. Also it takes many years in the Church and part of the process is trying to save the marriage.


The priest told me I would have no problem and it would be fast, just had to get him to come in and tell what he did. I did not want to bring it all back up again after so many years and after him serving 7 years in prison for it.
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Dec 14, 2008 7:30 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
kitty01: I was married in the Catholic Church and got divorced and remarried again. Later when I returned to the Catholic Church they did not consider me divorced but still married. They told me I would have to get an annulment, which I never did.

Now should I consider myself married for life even though I did have a divorce. My second marriage as far as they are concerned never was legal. I guess I did not have to pay for a divorce since the Church never considered me married.

So now am I married or single?


I know where you're coming from kitty. It is certainly an issue if you are a practising Catholic and you want to remarry in the Church. Early this year, I really started to struggle with the issue as it really does create conflict if you start to think about the implications seriously. To me, marriage is a very serious issue. I actually did contact the head office here and spoke to someone. I have the forms to apply for an annulment, and I think my application would qualify on all the grounds for an annulment possible, bar one. It is a bit of a process, and I may go through it for my own spiritual reasons. I informed my son's father of this. His initial comment was that I would not have much chance, but he is a lawyer now, and has since informed himself, and so his subsequent response was, did I realise then, that an annulment would make it appear as if I were never married? Yes, I did realise that.grin My only concern was my son, and where did that leave him in all this. Well, it seems that Church doctrine has addressed this critical issue, and it has been written into Doctrine that the child of such a union is nonetheless deemed to be legitimate. No flippin' idea how they work that one, but if it's written in, I'm happy with that. If I do get round to applying, which I really to want to as a major part of my own spiritual healing, I know it will make a huge difference to me psychologically also. But we are all different. I know many annulments have been based on the most inane reasons only so a person could remarry in the Church.

bouquet
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Dec 14, 2008 7:33 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: I think since you are still married to one and were never married to the other in the eyes of the church that they now cancel each other out and you are now back to being single again........



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Dec 14, 2008 7:36 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
I was advised to get the annulment for that reason since at the time I was attending the church again and going to a singles group they were trying to start. The priest said if I met someone there I would need to have had the annulment before we could get married in the church again.

I only stayed a few months and went back to the Mormon church where I did not need a annulment. My second husband was Mormon that is how I ended up going there.
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Dec 14, 2008 7:40 PM CST Do you considered yourself married or single if married in the Catholic Church and got divorced
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Big_John: I am Catholic and my opinion is each organizatin has rules you must live by if you want to belong to that group. The Church is no different. Whether you like the rules are not you must follow them if you want to be part of that organization. If you believe in religion and you believe in the Catholic Church you can not pick and choose which rules you live by. This is not something you can cherry pick how to be a Catholic.


Hence, I'm not Catholic any more. Or Christian, for that matter. I didn't agree with a lot of things. Live and let live, and to each their own. I respect those who are any denomination...or Path.
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