Science & Philosophy, do they ever get along? (70)
Ambrose2007: Exactly what I was thinking. But they are both beliefs - which is probably what Tater was referring to.
exactly, why I anwsered the way I did with beleif's
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jbibiza: Philosophy is a science... the word means "love of knowledge" You have just stated exactly what a scientist does... it´s all about coming up with theories and proving or disproving them. The big ones like how did the universe happen... have many theories and they are still coming up with new ones and we don´t know if any of them will be proven beyond a doubt.
Philosophers and Scientists are both people who search for truth and knowledge... I can´t imagine a better pair to have great discussions.
Philosophers and Scientists are both people who search for truth and knowledge... I can´t imagine a better pair to have great discussions.
Well, the classification of philosophy has been debated for quite awhile...While believing that useful distinctions between philosophy and science can be drawn - science involves the study of certain empirical matters, whereas philosophy guides that study and evaluates the knowledge thus obtained...you wouldn't bring philosophy into the question about whether or not a particular circuit design will cause light, for example - I tend to agree that the *essence* of both is the study of reality, and there is no reason that philosophy should not employ scientific methodology in arriving at its truths.
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jbibiza: ... and the list could go on and on... just wanted to make the point that philosophy isn´t just about religion and our purpose for living...
I got you I was just giving you are bad time not being serious. I am sure there are plenty of ism and in a sense Philosophy could be approached from a very analytical mindset just as the Sciences.
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Ambrose2007: Well, the classification of philosophy has been debated for quite awhile...
While believing that useful distinctions between philosophy and science can be drawn - science involves the study of certain empirical matters, whereas philosophy guides that study and evaluates the knowledge thus obtained...you wouldn't bring philosophy into the question about whether or not a particular circuit design will cause light, for example - I tend to agree that the *essence* of both is the study of reality, and there is no reason that philosophy should not employ scientific methodology in arriving at its truths.
While believing that useful distinctions between philosophy and science can be drawn - science involves the study of certain empirical matters, whereas philosophy guides that study and evaluates the knowledge thus obtained...you wouldn't bring philosophy into the question about whether or not a particular circuit design will cause light, for example - I tend to agree that the *essence* of both is the study of reality, and there is no reason that philosophy should not employ scientific methodology in arriving at its truths.
... or in some cases... science can be very similar to Philosophy in that they work with theories that may never be proven absolutely...
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jbibiza: ... or in some cases... science can be very similar to Philosophy in that they work with theories that may never be proven absolutely...
Absolute Proof is pretty damn hard to come by for anything...but it's good to keep in mind that very concept owes its existence to philosophy!
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Ambrose2007: Absolute Proof is pretty damn hard to come by for anything...but it's good to keep in mind that very concept owes its existence to philosophy!
How very true
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Ambrose2007: Absolute Proof is pretty damn hard to come by for anything...but it's good to keep in mind that very concept owes its existence to philosophy!
Even if there is Absolute Proof of anything the interpretation of facts at times can be incorrect or incomplete and subjective.
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Dawn7z: Even if there is Absolute Proof of anything the interpretation of facts at times can be incorrect or incomplete and subjective.
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Dawn7z: Even if there is Absolute Proof of anything the interpretation of facts at times can be incorrect or incomplete and subjective.
Right - and science can't tell us anything about "subjective interpretation" or any kind of interpretation. The correct interpretation of evidence - and even the idea of evidence itself - is philosophic in nature. That's what I meant when I said they're really two sides of the same coin...
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Ambrose2007: Right - and science can't tell us anything about "subjective interpretation" or any kind of interpretation. The correct interpretation of evidence - and even the idea of evidence itself - is philosophic in nature. That's what I meant when I said they're really two sides of the same coin...
How true. Got ya.
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Ok... this is starting to sound like "thank you, no thank you, thank you for thanking me, thank you for thanking me for thanking you...."
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jbibiza: Ok... this is starting to sound like "thank you, no thank you, thank you for thanking me, thank you for thanking me for thanking you...."
Thanks for pointing that out, Jacquie!! (You knew that was coming!)
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jbibiza: Ok... this is starting to sound like "thank you, no thank you, thank you for thanking me, thank you for thanking me for thanking you...."
I am corrected so I have to say it I am not educated enough in either of these areas to feel comfortable and have had enough arguing for the day lol.
I need to go back to college lol.
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Ambrose2007: Thanks for pointing that out, Jacquie!! (You knew that was coming!)
Did I know that was coming... or did you just think that I knew that was coming....
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Dawn7z: I am corrected so I have to say it I am not educated enough in either of these areas to feel comfortable and have had enough arguing for the day lol.
I need to go back to college lol.
I need to go back to college lol.
So do I! And I'm looking into doing just that! But I do think I want to go back for psychology now.
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Dawn7z: I am corrected so I have to say it I am not educated enough in either of these areas to feel comfortable and have had enough arguing for the day lol.
I need to go back to college lol.
I need to go back to college lol.
No!!! What you said was perfect!!! The
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Philosophy=the science of Thinking.
Philosophy is actually supposed to teach people to Think.
Therefore those two are not Opposites.
Of course not every Woolly Mysticism is Philosophy.
Philosophy is actually supposed to teach people to Think.
Therefore those two are not Opposites.
Of course not every Woolly Mysticism is Philosophy.
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jbibiza: Did I know that was coming... or did you just think that I knew that was coming....
I had believed your knowing it was coming was a scientific fact, J...
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jbibiza: No!!! What you said was perfect!!! The were because I could see the way it was starting to go and I have a weird sense of humour!
Too dang agreeable on this thread nothing to fight and make up about.
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Agreed. It goes WAAAY beyond that!