Kyrhah: I feel for you and that is what I just posted here: I could manage to get out, but what with the rest of you guys, who did not have this option ?
I do wish you the best Bo
I'm glad you were able to avoid the economic turmoil here in the States and wish you the best life has to offer.
Kyrhah: awww... how nice of you - and it will go up again for all of you nice guys over there in the belly of the beast ....
I am confident things will get better but no one can tell for certain. However, people often say that I am a survivor and I have to agree. I have very few needs and am just as comfortable hunting and fishing to survive if necessary. Lets hope it does not come to that.
maybesoon: coming from a australian.... johnny horward our past prime minster, was so far up bush's backside, they were like twins...
then we got involved with the war over there, this has made us a target now,,, nothing has happen so far!!!! bt it will come....
but as the states is the most powerful country in the world, which almost controls evey other country, you are also the most sort after country to be attacked....
We often say over here, "why are the yanks getting involved with this, or that country, its got nothing to do with them!!!!...
but it seems where ever their's trouble... the yanks are there somehow....( i might be a but green on this subject, but thats what we see here in oz)...
Not the States or the yanks it's the bankers that control these things for the elite
First of all, to RayUS......living in trepidation of being simple objects in the hands of some obscure conspirator or group of out to control me and my life is not my cup of tea.
Having more prophets of doom speaking of the darkness about to enfold humanity is certainly not going to solve any problems.
As for the US in general, one word that has been drummed relentlessly, and yet continuously abused in the States and by the States on a global level is DEMOCRACY.
Democracy is participation. Of each and every one of us who are involved.
True, we are but a tiny piece of rock in the middle of nowhere with no say in world affairs. But when we vote for a government to run our affairs for the following five years, there is normally a turn out of approximately 96% of all eligible voters.
And if that government does things that go against the Constitution or against the general good of the country, people tend to take to the streets and make their voices heard and felt.
It is your right to do so. But unfortunately it seems that the people of the United States are too confined in their own universe to even know what is going on. More foreigners seem to know what is going on in world politics then US people do.
It is time to understand that you have been abused over and over again. And it is time for you to take charge of your country and get it back on line.
HealthyLiving: I believe that "Homeland" definitely includes all of the entities you have listed, but I believe Bush's reference was in regards to events such as 9/11.
Would you be willing to trade your Freedom for Security? Many will willingly do so, without considering the cost or effectiveness.
Do our votes really count? 93% of the American people said "NO" to the bailouts, yet our representatives voted "Yes", as they believe they "know what's BEST for US!!!!" Trust THEM???
You make good points considering our country in peril of attack, however I believe the motives for attack on our nation to be influenced through other sources with specific reasonings planned out long ago.
Your last paragraph... So right on!!!
Appreciate your response fireliter!
true,its all smoke&b/s,have to keep both eyes,on them.
HealthyLivingOPSomewhere In, Tennessee USA4,775 posts
gozoman2: An afternoon's mental freewheeling exercise.....
First of all, to RayUS......living in trepidation of being simple objects in the hands of some obscure conspirator or group of out to control me and my life is not my cup of tea.
Having more prophets of doom speaking of the darkness about to enfold humanity is certainly not going to solve any problems.
As for the US in general, one word that has been drummed relentlessly, and yet continuously abused in the States and by the States on a global level is DEMOCRACY.
Democracy is participation. Of each and every one of us who are involved.
True, we are but a tiny piece of rock in the middle of nowhere with no say in world affairs. But when we vote for a government to run our affairs for the following five years, there is normally a turn out of approximately 96% of all eligible voters.
And if that government does things that go against the Constitution or against the general good of the country, people tend to take to the streets and make their voices heard and felt.
It is your right to do so. But unfortunately it seems that the people of the United States are too confined in their own universe to even know what is going on. More foreigners seem to know what is going on in world politics then US people do.
It is time to understand that you have been abused over and over again. And it is time for you to take charge of your country and get it back on line.
Conspiracies or no conspiracies.
Good luck.
Most of the people in the U.S. are consumed by the TV, video games, or the lusts of this world. Many are dumbed down by the propaganda or numbed by drugs and alcohol, having an "I don't care" attitude. They have absolutely no idea of what is going on around them. For those of us who are informed, we work hard at trying to inform others. Even though we "know" or have a sence of "something is going on that isn't right", most do not know what to do with the info they have. There are many "grassroots" organizations all over the country who need your participation. Many of you are on government assistance or are drawing retirement and you have nothing but time on your hands. It's time to get envolved. Start locally, in your area, attend meetups, work with those in your State, then Nationally. Hopefully it isn't too late.
In the 60s, participating in rallies, marches and protests was a common thing. Today, it is against the law and you go to jail if you are not in a "protest zone". We are not allowed to protest just anywhere, we must be contained in the spot of the governments choice, usually surrounded by security forces. How things have changed! Still, many protestors are taken into custody. Wonder why Americans don't protest against their government???
Yes, it's time for change, but not the kind of change Mr. Obama will afford us. His administration is "old school"... Meet the new boss... Same as the old boss!!! He's the CFRs man!!!
No other country in this world has sponcered Terror as US .Taliban was created by the US to fight the Soviets. Osama was held by the US as a freedom fighter and he is a most wanted terrorist now .formenting trouble and taking advantage of that have been the stated policy of the US . Remove the US interferene from the globe and the whole world look peacefull . US had its ecomomic and techological superiority to carry out their agenda so far .now with the fast eroding ecomony US will no longer enjoy this status .Very soon the US will go in the way of USSR .. US products and services are no longer in demand now .Most of the American Iconic establishments are either collapsed or on the verge of collapse . and a war with Iran will traumatic to the US .US is caught up in Iraq ,afganistan and in Pakistan where it has to pump thousand of lives and millions of dollars to save the pride . With Euro taking shape of a global currency and its highly inefficient economy its higly unlikely US will ever come back China is going to rule the roost .This depletion is a neccesity for a new world order .If you look at the history of mankind many cruel regims have emerged and dusted time to time .US will be the last as it looks now
HealthyLivingOPSomewhere In, Tennessee USA4,775 posts
gozoman2: Precisly the kind of threat that I mentioned before.....
You have allowed one man to stamp down your most sacred right....that of free speech.....
and for what? In the name of safeguarding the nation?
From what? The unseen ogre round the corner? From yourselves??????
Your present situation is actually worst then the days of Edgar J Hoover and his hunt for communists......and this is the 21st century.....
...and all in the name of freedom.........
WAKE UP US.......if you really want to regain the respect of other free nations of the world, clean up your house.
It is worse!!! But the people either do not see, or they are apathetic! They are willing to surrender their FREEDOMs for a FALSE sence of Security!!! They believe the media and the lie that we are still FREE!! The suffer from OSD!!(Ostrich Syndrome Disorder)or they are like the 3 little monkeys with their hands placed over their ears, eyes and mouths... Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil! They believe the LIE, that if you admit there is a problem, then you have created it and that is negative energy, so do not speak of it and therefore it does NOT exist and it will go away!!! BS!!!!!
bollywood: No other country in this world has sponcered Terror as US .Taliban was created by the US to fight the Soviets. Osama was held by the US as a freedom fighter and he is a most wanted terrorist now .formenting trouble and taking advantage of that have been the stated policy of the US . Remove the US interferene from the globe and the whole world look peacefull . US had its ecomomic and techological superiority to carry out their agenda so far .now with the fast eroding ecomony US will no longer enjoy this status .Very soon the US will go in the way of USSR .. US products and services are no longer in demand now .Most of the American Iconic establishments are either collapsed or on the verge of collapse . and a war with Iran will traumatic to the US .US is caught up in Iraq ,afganistan and in Pakistan where it has to pump thousand of lives and millions of dollars to save the pride . With Euro taking shape of a global currency and its highly inefficient economy its higly unlikely US will ever come back China is going to rule the roost .This depletion is a neccesity for a new world order .If you look at the history of mankind many cruel regims have emerged and dusted time to time .US will be the last as it looks now
bollywood: No other country in this world has sponcered Terror as US .Taliban was created by the US to fight the Soviets. Osama was held by the US as a freedom fighter and he is a most wanted terrorist now .formenting trouble and taking advantage of that have been the stated policy of the US . Remove the US interferene from the globe and the whole world look peacefull . US had its ecomomic and techological superiority to carry out their agenda so far .now with the fast eroding ecomony US will no longer enjoy this status .Very soon the US will go in the way of USSR .. US products and services are no longer in demand now .Most of the American Iconic establishments are either collapsed or on the verge of collapse . and a war with Iran will traumatic to the US .US is caught up in Iraq ,afganistan and in Pakistan where it has to pump thousand of lives and millions of dollars to save the pride . With Euro taking shape of a global currency and its highly inefficient economy its higly unlikely US will ever come back China is going to rule the roost .This depletion is a neccesity for a new world order .If you look at the history of mankind many cruel regims have emerged and dusted time to time .US will be the last as it looks now
And.......just who do you think did the Mumbai attacks? Now don't you dare say the United States. Now about Osama .......again, stop blaming the U.S. He brought shame to his family by his own terroristic actions internationally and even they disown him. He took control of his own behaviours. When a Muslim family disowns a son, he is considered as dead in their eyes.
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I do wish you the best Bo