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Feb 18, 2009 9:48 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
jaynimble: Do you live in any of these places? ever use they're universal health care?

We live in the Greatest country in the world and we got that way being CAPITALISTS not socialists, let me say it again CAPITALISTS, and we are the greatest nation in the world, why would we copy others that aren't as good or succesful at us, good thinking lets take advice from country's poorer than us



Ever been denied insurance because the company feels that it isn't in their financial best interest to cover you? I have seen that scenario played out numerous times. Ever see soldiers that are discharged develop health issues due to their service and since they are no longer a part of the military, denied coverage because they are deemed to have had pre-exisiting conditions or their treatment was deemed "experiemental"? Sure what the hell, let's just deny people coverage since it cost too much and stick them in debt! That works.
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Feb 18, 2009 9:49 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
jaynimble
jaynimblejaynimblehampton, Virginia USA25 Threads 7 Polls 237 Posts
So what the hell does that have to do with the price of tea in china?


lol it means stick to relevant things
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Feb 18, 2009 9:50 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
I believe gold closed at $981 today, so if you did not get impatient, you are OK. The paper they bought will be lucky to return 60 cents on the dollar if held to maturity. You can't tell me that they didn't question no doc loans that were supposedly AAA, particularly when they were issueing the same thing in the UK and selling it to other unsuspecting dupes.
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Feb 18, 2009 9:52 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
jaynimble
jaynimblejaynimblehampton, Virginia USA25 Threads 7 Polls 237 Posts
the best help is self help i don't care who you are, but like i said we should help those who can't help themsevels not won't
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Feb 18, 2009 9:53 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Da10th: As did most of the world and considering at the time that the dollar was booming, was a great investment (at the time). That's like condemning those that invested in gold when it was near 1k an ounce. Last I checked it was just over 860/ounce (havent checked for a few weeks). What was once a bargin in the markets is no longer.


I wish I had the money to buy alot of gold 3 yrs ago, went I wanted too....but I couldn't it defititely would of paid off now... But I don't think gold will really go much higher, I don't have any reason for thinking that.... but I just don'tdunno
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Feb 18, 2009 9:55 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
jaynimble: Do you live in any of these places? ever use they're universal health care?

We live in the Greatest country in the world and we got that way being CAPITALISTS not socialists, let me say it again CAPITALISTS, and we are the greatest nation in the world, why would we copy others that aren't as good or succesful at us, good thinking lets take advice from country's poorer than us



I live here and our health care has only become crap in the last few years...due to some government geniuses thinking it was a good thing to cap doctor salaries and cut their days of work to save money...well now we have a doctor shortage cause they all went to work in other countries.....mighta saved a few bucks but now we don't even have enough doctors for everyone to have a family doctor...which backs up the emergencies and clinics...and has set the whole system down a losing path....BUT the care has always been exemplary....so I wouldn't comment about something you know very little about....thumbs up
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Feb 18, 2009 9:55 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
jaynimble: the best help is self help i don't care who you are, but like i said we should help those who can't help themsevels not won't


again I agree with you... I will help anyone I can that tries and fails, but I will be the first to say F-U when when they expect something but put forth no effort, or little effort in helping themselves...cheers
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Feb 18, 2009 9:56 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
jaynimble: Do you live in any of these places? ever use they're universal health care?

We live in the Greatest country in the world and we got that way being CAPITALISTS not socialists, let me say it again CAPITALISTS, and we are the greatest nation in the world, why would we copy others that aren't as good or succesful at us, good thinking lets take advice from country's poorer than us



No to mention we are not in worse economic shape than you guys are...we don't have banks and companies closing by the dozens here...and requiring hefty government bail-outs either..thumbs up
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Feb 18, 2009 9:57 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
jaynimble
jaynimblejaynimblehampton, Virginia USA25 Threads 7 Polls 237 Posts
honestly the greatest investment i see right now is General Electric stock, price right now is around $11 a share, with a return of 31 cents a quarter, thats $1.24 a year, over 10% return and you can't lose because if it goes up, you can sell it and earn direct profit, it used to be up around 35 and if it goes down then you can get a better percentage return on the dividends, dividends hasn't gone down in over 100 years,


buts that neither here nor there, socialism isn't what made us great and won't help us
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Feb 18, 2009 9:58 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
Tater: I wish I had the money to buy alot of gold 3 yrs ago, went I wanted too....but I couldn't it defititely would of paid off now... But I don't think gold will really go much higher, I don't have any reason for thinking that.... but I just don't



You & me both...lol...I'm more into silver (more at my economic level). Coins in particular.
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Feb 18, 2009 9:58 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
jaynimble
jaynimblejaynimblehampton, Virginia USA25 Threads 7 Polls 237 Posts
Sure but don't mention that the companies that are closing were under the clinton administration forced to give loans to people who didn't qualify and then tanked on the loans, yeah it was goverment intervention
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Feb 18, 2009 9:59 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: No to mention we are not in worse economic shape than you guys are...we don't have banks and companies closing by the dozens here...and requiring hefty government bail-outs either..



We actually have real assets to back up our dollar...it's not just paper money backed up by nothing coming off a printing press....thumbs up
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Feb 18, 2009 10:00 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
I only have 10 ounces of gold and about 3500 ounces of silver that I started buying in very small amounts in 2002. The purpose of buying it was to make sure that I had something that was a universal medium of exchange and a guard against inflation.
The Fed has been inflating the currency at a rate of 10-15% per year since Greenspan came in 1987 and in just the last year Bernanke has inflated the money supply by 79%, so sooner or later something not pleasant is going to happen.
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Feb 18, 2009 10:00 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
jaynimble
jaynimblejaynimblehampton, Virginia USA25 Threads 7 Polls 237 Posts
but canada is canada, i still havn't heard about you people trying to get health care yet, but of course all you might say is yeah its great, yeah is that why my friend in canada is waiting 2 months for a check up, hmmm, under my capitalism i can get it tomorrow if i wanted to
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Feb 18, 2009 10:01 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
jaynimble: but canada is canada, i still havn't heard about you people trying to get health care yet, but of course all you might say is yeah its great, yeah is that why my friend in canada is waiting 2 months for a check up, hmmm, under my capitalism i can get it tomorrow if i wanted to



I just posted about it on the previous page...see the explanation there....thumbs up
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Feb 18, 2009 10:03 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Do the math "Peaches" there is a total of $280B in gold owned by the US government and it is backing up $43T in current liabilities. In other words, $1 in gold backs up $160 in paper. Yep, that's security you can bank on!
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Feb 18, 2009 10:04 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
toranoga: I only have 10 ounces of gold and about 3500 ounces of silver that I started buying in very small amounts in 2002. The purpose of buying it was to make sure that I had something that was a universal medium of exchange and a guard against inflation.
The Fed has been inflating the currency at a rate of 10-15% per year since Greenspan came in 1987 and in just the last year Bernanke has inflated the money supply by 79%, so sooner or later something not pleasant is going to happen.



thumbs up smart man... There has always been a pattern with our government, whatever they sayhow bad something is.., triple it and then it will be closer to the truth...laugh
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Feb 18, 2009 10:04 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Yeah but right now you have people dying cause they can't get insurance or afford it...so what's better for the people in the long run???? Saving money or lives?????
Even worse, those with insurance get covered, and then the insurance company goes to the hospital,says they wont cover it, and then the hospital charges the family.
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Feb 18, 2009 10:06 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Yeah but right now you have people dying cause they can't get insurance or afford it...so what's better for the people in the long run???? Saving money or lives?????


When they can't afford it tax payers pay for it then the doc, and still reimbursted by the gov. they don't die unless they choose not to go to the doc..
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Feb 18, 2009 10:09 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
jaynimble
jaynimblejaynimblehampton, Virginia USA25 Threads 7 Polls 237 Posts
yeah they don't die unless they don't go, its just stupid people making stuff up to prove a point
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