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Feb 20, 2009 9:58 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Da10th: Honestly Tater, reminds me of every politician.


yeah that is pretty true..cheers
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Feb 20, 2009 9:58 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Tater: I doubt you'll be saying, it's better then Bush when every we are all in poverty, EXCEPT for the government...
I also didn't like everything about BUSH....



I would say anyone and anything is better than Bush because face it..you're already there....and it's certainly not Obama's fault since the man took office barely a month ago....thumbs up
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Feb 20, 2009 10:00 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
Tater: I doubt you'll be saying, it's better then Bush when every we are all in poverty, EXCEPT for the government...
I also didn't like everything about BUSH....


My biggest problem with Bush is the management of the Iraq War (Yes I believe we could have had complete victory in the first 3yrs had it been fought correctly) and that his administration didn't see the oncoming of this crisis and do something about it before it collapsed like it did.

As far as his general foriegn policy, border policy, national security policies, and his handling of 9/11, I support him basically (always a few things in each that could have been tweaked)
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Feb 20, 2009 10:01 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: I would say anyone and anything is better than Bush because face it..you're already there....and it's certainly not Obama's fault since the man took office barely a month ago....


No it isn't Obama's fault, but he is making it alot alot alot worse.... it is mostly DEMS. and some republicans fault for leaning on the banks to make bad loan agreements with so little down, and giving loans to anyone who wanted one, even when they banks KNEW the people couldn't afford it...cheers
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Feb 20, 2009 10:06 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Tater: No it isn't Obama's fault, but he is making it alot alot alot worse.... it is mostly DEMS. and some republicans fault for leaning on the banks to make bad loan agreements with so little down, and giving loans to anyone who wanted one, even when they banks KNEW the people couldn't afford it...



Well that and throwing good money after bad too didn't help matters any...I am just glad to see you have a president who is concerned about the actual people...not his rich cronies and big business....I used to have respect for Bush during Dessert Storm..911 etc etc...until I started to see cracks and lies about Iraq...How it reminded me of Vietnam and basicly turned into a war that can never be won....yet lives are being lost daily...and when I started to see most of his policies benefit the already well off rather than the people of America as a whole....wave wink hug kiss hug heart beating
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Feb 20, 2009 10:10 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Tater: I doubt you'll be saying, it's better then Bush when every we are all in poverty, EXCEPT for the government...
I also didn't like everything about BUSH....


With the the pork in the Patriot Act, Bush ran contrary to every "Republican" ideal there ever was. Homeland Security is just another way of saying "another inept layer of bureaucracy" IMO. Add that to the ineffectual EPA that Nixon created and various other policy changes in the Federal Mental Health & Prison Reforms of the DEA & "War On Drugs" of Reagan & Bush '42(basically translate that as the war on people other than the CIA making money on cocaine).

The Republicans are batting zero in the last 40 years on their history of small government my friend. It's just the agenda of the institutions that differ. tip hat
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Feb 20, 2009 10:12 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Keep on thinking that a Chicago politician is not in several peoples back pockets. He is as straight as an arrow that shoots around a corner.
He also didn't win the election per se, McCain lost it.
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Feb 20, 2009 10:15 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
moonlove
moonlovemoonlovechiang mai, Northern Thailand Thailand79 Threads 29 Polls 650 Posts
He became a president when US country was bad in economic and also the war crisis....he try the best to solve economic problems...planing to agree or to balance for every people in the country is difficult, very difficult...but i think, it can be affect for shorterm but for longterm, hope fully will work
most of every countries know that, how much US economic down...and war crisis..then what US people soppose Barak obama does for them..when their country full of problems...all we have to see more benefit..future dream for US, new generation..when we still have hope or dream about our future, we always strong..and always meaningful.......

i can consider..it can affect some people life,,,,but i hope they will save form that life soon,,,as soon as possiblecheers
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Feb 20, 2009 10:16 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
toranoga: Keep on thinking that a Chicago politician is not in several peoples back pockets. He is as straight as an arrow that shoots around a corner.
He also didn't win the election per se, McCain lost it.


I have to agree. He could have had my vote until Palin. handshake
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Feb 20, 2009 10:17 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
toranoga: Keep on thinking that a Chicago politician is not in several peoples back pockets. He is as straight as an arrow that shoots around a corner.
He also didn't win the election per se, McCain lost it.



Well when and if he ever goes off the straight and narrow then he will lose my respect just the rest of them have...but until then he has it 100%...and McCain yes...his campaign was soooooooooooooo upright I can't see why the man lost myself...I mean he musta really been reaching trying to get poor people and minorities taken off the voters list....From where I sit..Obama won this election because he ran a good and fair campaign....thumbs up
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Feb 20, 2009 10:17 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Da10th: My biggest problem with Bush is the management of the Iraq War (Yes I believe we could have had complete victory in the first 3yrs had it been fought correctly) and that his administration didn't see the oncoming of this crisis and do something about it before it collapsed like it did.

As far as his general foriegn policy, border policy, national security policies, and his handling of 9/11, I support him basically (always a few things in each that could have been tweaked)


I agree, and people have to realize that people in some Countries will always HATE AMERICA, I don't care how much money you throw at them, they will still hate America.. Their Ideology teaches to hates us, mostly because we are not Islamic and we support Isreal... IT will never change...cheers
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Feb 20, 2009 10:21 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Well when and if he ever goes off the straight and narrow then he will lose my respect just the rest of them have...but until then he has it 100%...and McCain yes...his campaign was soooooooooooooo upright I can't see why the man lost myself...I mean he musta really been reaching trying to get poor people and minorities taken off the voters list....From where I sit..Obama won this election because he ran a good and fair campaign....


He won my vote in the final analysis because he ran a fairly high-brow line of rhetoric. He did not stoop to the mud-slinging, Rove-inspired tactics that typically color such campaigns.

It's too early to tell really. People need to give the guy a break. He's only been President a month or so. He's done more than Bush in that time, even if it's the wrong things. Bush was on vacation until 9-11.doh
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Feb 20, 2009 10:23 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: He won my vote in the final analysis because he ran a fairly high-brow line of rhetoric. He did not stoop to the mud-slinging, Rove-inspired tactics that typically color such campaigns.

It's too early to tell really. People need to give the guy a break. He's only been President a month or so. He's done more than Bush in that time, even if it's the wrong things. Bush was on vacation until 9-11.



I agree...The man just took office for god sakes....wave wink hug kiss hug heart beating
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Feb 20, 2009 10:25 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: He won my vote in the final analysis because he ran a fairly high-brow line of rhetoric. He did not stoop to the mud-slinging, Rove-inspired tactics that typically color such campaigns.

It's too early to tell really. People need to give the guy a break. He's only been President a month or so. He's done more than Bush in that time, even if it's the wrong things. Bush was on vacation until 9-11.
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Feb 20, 2009 10:25 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Well when and if he ever goes off the straight and narrow then he will lose my respect just the rest of them have...but until then he has it 100%...and McCain yes...his campaign was soooooooooooooo upright I can't see why the man lost myself...I mean he musta really been reaching trying to get poor people and minorities taken off the voters list....From where I sit..Obama won this election because he ran a good and fair campaign....


NO white person running against Obama, will get very much support from the black community... period.. But I agree McCain didn't have a chance, because Obama, is one of the best talkers I've ever seen, he talks out of both side of his mouth but still a great talker..cheers
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Feb 20, 2009 10:28 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Tater: NO white person running against Obama, will get very much support from the black community... period.. But I agree McCain didn't have a chance, because Obama, is one of the best talkers I've ever seen, he talks out of both side of his mouth but still a great talker..



I don't think that's a fair statement..What about the white people that vote for white people????


Does it not work both ways?????


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Feb 20, 2009 10:29 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
Tater: NO white person running against Obama, will get very much support from the black community... period.. But I agree McCain didn't have a chance, because Obama, is one of the best talkers I've ever seen, he talks out of both side of his mouth but still a great talker..
Clinton didn't deserve it, hell her husband was sleeping at the MLK ceremony. McCain made hardly any effort himself to even reach out to the minority population except for the hispanics.
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Feb 20, 2009 10:32 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: I don't think that's a fair statement..What about the white people that vote for white people????Does it not work both ways?????


The statement is a true statement though, and yes some whites are the same way, but look at the polls... I mean c'mon,
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Feb 20, 2009 10:34 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Tater: The statement is a true statement though, and yes some whites are the same way, but look at the polls... I mean c'mon,



How about some black people voted for Obama simply because he was the best candidate...just as some white people did...If you're gonna talk race...you have to talk about it from more than just one angle...thumbs up
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Feb 20, 2009 10:35 PM CST Obama's Housing plan, and your thoughts
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Da10th: Clinton didn't deserve it, hell her husband was sleeping at the MLK ceremony. McCain made hardly any effort himself to even reach out to the minority population except for the hispanics.


yeahthumbs up Well when Bush was saying his last speach, Obama was out to dinner with his family... I feel that was very dis-respectful, to the Office as President, If that was to happen to Obama, the media would have been all over it...
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