Capital Punishment (203)
vinny1967: And the appeals process takes up so much time, energy and resources........
I believe it can be hugely Expensive............
And yes every system is flawed I agree...........I just think when it comes to taking someones life there should be no margin for error............How we achieve that........I havent a clue............
Be careful of SXC............she is in a humour to pickle your balls............ Guilty or not.......
The Appeals Process is in many Cases way more expensive than to Feed,Clothe,give them Medical Care and House them for the rest of their Life.I believe it can be hugely Expensive............
And yes every system is flawed I agree...........I just think when it comes to taking someones life there should be no margin for error............How we achieve that........I havent a clue............
Be careful of SXC............she is in a humour to pickle your balls............ Guilty or not.......
Besides what Executions do to an Executioner.
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livinglarge: Capital Punishment is seen by many as State Sanctioned Murder .So I what if the onus was on the victims family to pull the switch, injest the poison , behead ?Take the right to administer Capital Punishment from the government and place it in the hands of the family of the victims. Of course all the normal procedures would be followed,
i.e, The trial etc but the last judgement be with the people whos lives have been torn apart So about one year after being found quilty ( no appeals allowed)
the family would decide to allow the perpatrater to live or not .
Poetic Justice ?
Exactly. You know they have caught one arsonist in AU that started one of the recent Bushfires, He was responsible for taking 21 lives.i.e, The trial etc but the last judgement be with the people whos lives have been torn apart So about one year after being found quilty ( no appeals allowed)
the family would decide to allow the perpatrater to live or not .
Poetic Justice ?
These are people found in their homes curled up in corners burnt to death, families found holding their children.
What is he doing now? he is being held in protective custody...give me a frigin break...........unleash him to the families that have just lost, their father, son, Mother, Daughter, grandkids....etc.
Don't expect me to waste a tear if he gets sentenced to bloody death.......if their was such a thing..........these are the cases where you wish CP was the case, and no better case as you said LL than putting it into the immediate families hands.
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livinglarge: Capital Punishment is seen by many as State Sanctioned Murder .So I what if the onus was on the victims family to pull the switch, injest the poison , behead ?Take the right to administer Capital Punishment from the government and place it in the hands of the family of the victims. Of course all the normal procedures would be followed,
i.e, The trial etc but the last judgement be with the people whos lives have been torn apart So about one year after being found quilty ( no appeals allowed)
the family would decide to allow the perpatrater to live or not .
Poetic Justice ?
i.e, The trial etc but the last judgement be with the people whos lives have been torn apart So about one year after being found quilty ( no appeals allowed)
the family would decide to allow the perpatrater to live or not .
Poetic Justice ?
Would definitely be Poetic Justice. Just wondering if there are any implications / ramifications to that..........
Need a Coffee.......
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Conrad73: The Appeals Process is in many Cases way more expensive than to Feed,Clothe,give them Medical Care and House them for the rest of their Life.
Besides what Executions do to an Executioner.
Besides what Executions do to an Executioner.
I wouldnt like to think what it would do to some executioners Con.............
Must be horrific....
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This is a tough question and for the majority of my adult life, I was pro death penalty. The only reason why I have reconsidered my position on capital punishment now is after further research, most of the people on death row are poor, undereducated, very often non Caucasian individuals. It just seems that the power of the state to take a life is not evenly dispersed amongst the collective populace.
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krimsa: This is a tough question and for the majority of my adult life, I was pro death penalty. The only reason why I have reconsidered my position on capital punishment now is after further research, most of the people on death row are poor, undereducated, very often non Caucasian individuals. It just seems that the power of the state to take a life is not evenly dispersed amongst the collective populace.
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sxc666: In my opinion they are excuses.
Well how many wealthy whites do you see awaiting the gas chamber?
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krimsa: Well how many wealthy whites do you see awaiting the gas chamber?
What???? why turn this into a colour issue? I said they are excuse. I did not say they are excuses for black, white, purple, dotted people 
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Tamarin: You are incorrigible...
You will have your hands chopped off one day...
Here is a question going slightly off your topic do you think prisoners should be allowed congicle visits or are they in prison as a punishment and should be denied normal life?
IMO they should get nothing.You will have your hands chopped off one day...
Here is a question going slightly off your topic do you think prisoners should be allowed congicle visits or are they in prison as a punishment and should be denied normal life?
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You have a rather morbid side, Vinny!
Discussion over a cognac?
Discussion over a cognac?
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sxc666: What???? why turn this into a colour issue? I said they are excuse. I did not say they are excuses for black, white, purple, dotted people
It’s only a "color issue" because of the great disparage between the ethnic minorities and Caucasians currently sitting on death row awaiting execution.
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krimsa: This is a tough question and for the majority of my adult life, I was pro death penalty. The only reason why I have reconsidered my position on capital punishment now is after further research, most of the people on death row are poor, undereducated, very often non Caucasian individuals. It just seems that the power of the state to take a life is not evenly dispersed amongst the collective populace.
Now this is where it gets more interesting.
I agree that wealthy people have more resources and generally avoid Execution more, because of the resources they can throw at the case..............
Does not seem fair either........
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venere08: You have a rather morbid side, Vinny!
Discussion over a cognac?
Discussion over a cognac?
Sorry, vinny, had just noticed this thread. As usual, behind the times
How are you doing. A birdie told me you are rather tall, and very nice
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venere08: You have a rather morbid side, Vinny!
Discussion over a cognac?
Discussion over a cognac?
Was feeling a bit down this morning and wanted a good healthy debate...........
It's livened me up no end........
How are you
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Tamarin: You are incorrigible...
You will have your hands chopped off one day...
Here is a question going slightly off your topic do you think prisoners should be allowed congicle visits or are they in prison as a punishment and should be denied normal life?
You will have your hands chopped off one day...
Here is a question going slightly off your topic do you think prisoners should be allowed congicle visits or are they in prison as a punishment and should be denied normal life?
Normal Life........?
What is normal life..............Im free and I dont get any conjugal visits.........
What about sat Tv and xbox's and playstations............
I personally think they should be punished and the more serious the crime the more serious the incarceration........
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vinny1967: Now this is where it gets more interesting.
I agree that wealthy people have more resources and generally avoid Execution more, because of the resources they can throw at the case..............
Does not seem fair either........
I agree that wealthy people have more resources and generally avoid Execution more, because of the resources they can throw at the case..............
Does not seem fair either........
Yes the issue becomes considerably more complicated when viewed in that light. There was a move to "cap" the amount of money and resources that can be utilized over the course of a criminal trial proceeding in which a defendant is looking at life or the DP.
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venere08: Sorry, vinny, had just noticed this thread. As usual, behind the times
How are you doing. A birdie told me you are rather tall, and very nice
How are you doing. A birdie told me you are rather tall, and very nice
I'm Effing Gorgeous.............
The pics dont do me justice...........
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vinny1967: I'm Effing Gorgeous.............
The pics dont do me justice...........
The pics dont do me justice...........
hhaahaa big head ,big head
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krimsa: Yes the issue becomes considerably more complicated when viewed in that light. There was a move to "cap" the amount of money and resources that can be utilized over the course of a criminal trial proceeding in which a defendant is looking at life or the DP.
Would that convene one's civil Liberties......?
I understand why people would want it tho.....
Sorry Gotta run and will catch up later.......
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So I what if the onus was on the victims family to pull the switch, injest the poison , behead ?
Take the right to administer Capital Punishment from the government and place it in the hands of the family of the victims. Of course all the normal procedures would be followed,
i.e, The trial etc but the last judgement be with the people whos lives have been torn apart
So about one year after being found quilty ( no appeals allowed)
the family would decide to allow the perpatrater to live or not .
Poetic Justice ?