It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!! ( Archived) (25)

Feb 26, 2009 12:05 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
norslyman
norslymannorslymanMinneapolis, Minnesota USA21 Threads 151 Posts
A new study just came out about the similarities between Alzeimers and Mad Cow. rolling on the floor laughing No da!! Most Mad Cow gets mis-diagnosed as Alzeimers. It IS Mad Cow.professor Is ANYTHING safe to eat anymore?
Thanks FDA smitten



Is Mad Cow Disease in the U.S.?

The Government says there is no problem with Mad Cow Disease in the U.S. However, they admit that cows in this country have already been diagnosed with Mad Cow Disease. And there are alsoTHOUSANDS of "Downer Cows" in this country, cows that are well one day and dead the next. When these "Downer Cows" are ground up and fed to other animals, the other animals develop the equivalent of Mad Cow Disease.

So the government, as always, is talking out of both sides of their mouth. They are protecting the gigantic billion dollar meat and poultry industry rather than the American people.

What is the government doing to stop this dangerous feeding practice?

They're approaching it the same way they have handled the AIDS epidemic: They LIE!

1. First, they deny that there is ANY problem.

2. When the evidence becomes overwhelming that there is a BIG problem, they admit that there "might" be a problem, but they say they're not sure, they are studying it and if there is a problem, it's not a serious problem and there is no reason for alarm. Keep eating what you're eating, they advise.

3. When people start catching on that there really is a problem, the government will admit that at first they weren't as vigilant as they should of been, but the people who were then responsible for investigating the problem are no longer with the government (blame those guys - they're gone) and now the problem is "under control." And there is no cause for alarm. Keep eating the stuff, they advise you.

4. A number of years later they say, "Oh, we've found out that there really has been a pretty big problem all along, but NOW we've got it under control. So there is NO cause for alarm." Keep eating the stuff, they advise you.

5 Then a year or two later they admit that it's in ALL the different breeds of animals, but it's "low risk" and you probably won't get it so NO cause for alarm." Keep eating the stuff, they advise you.

6. When the problem continues to grow, they start dividing the Prion diseases into different categories so no one specific category has too many people in it.

7. When the problem becomes outrageous, they admit there's a small, but controllable problem, and then they start covering up the true statistics - the REAL number of people who have the disease or who have already died from the disease.

Their plan ALWAYS is to keep the public calm as they die!



You can go back to sleep now. Relax. They have it all under control.

moping
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Feb 26, 2009 12:10 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
norslyman
norslymannorslymanMinneapolis, Minnesota USA21 Threads 151 Posts
What is the evidence for a cover-up in Mad Cow Disease?

1. As of Jan 6, 2001, the Centers for Disease Control, a government Public Health organization, published on their web site: "BSE has not been shown to exist in the United States." "According to the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Services of the United States Dapartment of Agriculture, BSE has NOT been detected in the United States, despite active surveillance efforts for several years." However, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) DOES NOT actively monitor the disease!

The REAL truth is: "A year before BSE was even reported in Britain in 1985, Richard Marsh, Chairman of the Department of Veterinary Science at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, was alerting dairy practitioners of the possibility that a "previously unrecognized scrapie-like disease in cattle" existed in the United States. The clue came in 1981 when "Mad Mink Disease" wiped out a population of minks in Wisconsin who hadn't eaten any sheep at all. The meat portion of their diet consisted almost exclusively of dairy cattle called "Downers," an industry term describing cows which collapse for unknown reasons and are too sick to stand up.

BUT - the beef industry claims that "Downer Cows" DO NOT have Mad Cow Disease! YET - when these Downer Cows were ground up and fed to mink - the mink DEVELOPED "Mad Mink Disease!"

In June 1992, a USDA consultant group decided that changes in the research program to accommodate the possibiity that BSE was already present in the U.S. were, "not appropriate at this time." The panel that made this decision included representatives of the National Milk Producers Federation, the National Renderers Association, the American Sheep Industry Association and the National Cattlemen's Association.

(By the way, Beef is the largest revenue source for American agriculture nationwide. It is a $150 billion dollar industry. Since the FDA protects the pharmaceutical industry, the very industry that it's supposed to police, why wouldn't the USDA (U.S. Dept of Agriculture) protect the Beef and Sheep Industry, even though the USDA is supposed to CONTROL it?)

According to the USDA, "virtually all U.S. feed manufacturers use meat and bone meal in their feeds" and most U.S. cattle are fed such rendered animal tissues. In 1989 alone the U.S. rendered two million tons of cattle for use primarily in animal feed and pet food. There has been a substantial increase in the use of animal protein in commercial dairy feed since 1987.

Dr. Gibbs, who recently chaired a World Health Organization investigation into the disease says "Do I believe BSE is here in the U.S., of course I do," Gibbs made this admission at a University of Wisconsin symposium.

With more than two decades of prion research behind him, Dr. Stanely Prusiner, the scientist who coined the term "prion" and received the Nobel Prize for his work, agrees that Mad Cow Disease MUST be present in the U.S."
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Feb 26, 2009 12:11 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
norslyman
norslymannorslymanMinneapolis, Minnesota USA21 Threads 151 Posts
In late 1978, Dr. Masuo Doi, a veterinarian with the Food Safety and Quality Service, studied a disorder in some young hogs that had arrived at a Packing Plant in Albany, N.Y. from several Midwestern states. The USDA's pathologist reported that the damage in the pig's brain was similar to the damage observed in the brains of sheep afflicted with scrapie, essentially the same disease as Mad Cow Disease (BSE) in cows.

Finally, the FDA drafted a rule that would ban the fortifying of animal feeds with "any Mammalian tissue." However, the FDA has played a taxonomical shell game by ARBITRARILY REMOVING PIGS FROM THE CLASS OF "MAMMALIA." They declared that a pig is NOT a mammal!

A single teaspoon of ingested high infectivity meat and bone meal is thought to be enough to cause BSE in a cow.

"One hundred thousand cows per year in the United States are fine at night, but dead in the morning. The majority of those cows are rounded up, ground up, fed back to other cows. If only one of them has Mad Cow disease, it has the potential to infect thousands." says Howard Lyman, Cattle Rancher for 40 years.

Mad Cow Risks were First Reported in the United States in 1976!!

"Health experts...knew of the potential dangers of contaminated human growth hormone years before the first Creutzfeldt-Jakob death occurred and experimental programs halted, British court documents reveal. Correspondence dating from the mid- '70s presented to a British judicial inquiry reveal a paper trail betwen the United States National Institutes of Health and the British Government indicating the infectiousness was foreseen," the Los Angeles Times reports.

"Moreover, a safer method for purifying human growth hormone drugs had long been available, but scientists involved in the experiments had ignored it in favor of a cheaper, less labor-intensive option."

In 1989 alone almost 800 million pounds of processed animals were fed to beef and dairy cattle in the U.S.. The USDA has conceded that "the potential risk of amplification of the BSE agent is much greater in the United States" than in Britain.

In 1995 five million tons of processed slaughterhouse leftovers were sold for animal feed in the United States.

Rendering is a $2.4 billion-a-year industry. "There is simply no such thing in America as an animal too ravaged by disease, too cancerous, or too putrid to be welcomed by the embracing arms of the renderer. In addition to diseased farm animals, the city of Los Angeles sends some two hundred tons of euthanized cats and dogs to a rendering plant every month. Added to the blend are the euthanized catch of animal control agencies and roadkill " according to Howard Lyman, a cattle rancher for 40 years. This is the food fed to the animals that YOU EAT!

In the U.S. the rendering industry promised to stop feeding sheep brains to cows years ago; the FDA confirmed that this ban failed.

Unfortunately just about everybody lies. "British government officials misled the public for years over the dangers of British beef and the risk of "mad cow" (BSE) disease spreading to humans," according to Reuters wire service.

"UK Physicians Told Not to Tell Hemophilia Patients of Possible CJD Blood Concerns."

"Mad Cow - BSE- CJD Now Likely to Be a Global Infection" according to New Scientist journal.

BSE has infected a dozen species of animals which presumably ate infected tissue.
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Feb 26, 2009 12:16 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
I posted a serious article on this subject months ago.And you know what,Most Americans laughed and make jokes about mad things and cow related subjects and basically said it wont happen to them.

People need to wake up and notice how serious this is!
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Feb 26, 2009 12:50 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
RobbieM: Trish it is the publics right not to want to listen, to behave like morons, not take any interest in politics, or current affairs or even bother to vote.

Then when they realise that fluoride in water is not a good idea, when mushing up animal brains and feeding them to other veggie animals as animal feed is not a good idea, or arming some mad militant group then maybe when it comes to light the thicko who missed all these plain obvious things will go and then stop drinking something that will damage your intellect, make your brain rot or get blown up on a bus by a raving nutcase.

It's there legal right to be complete Morons.



grin you are of course right sadly blues
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Feb 26, 2009 1:10 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
Sadly it is true that Mad Cow exists in people in the US. I ran across a report by the New Jersey Department of Health and they found several cases. Originally misdiagnosed, but ultimately confirmed. ... of course that doesn't make the news.
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Feb 26, 2009 1:22 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
In response to: A new study just came out about the similarities between Alzeimers and Mad Cow. No da!! Most Mad Cow gets mis-diagnosed as Alzeimers. It IS Mad Cow. Is ANYTHING safe to eat anymore?
Thanks FDA



Is Mad Cow Disease in the U.S.?

The Government says there is no problem with Mad Cow Disease in the U.S. However, they admit that cows in this country have already been diagnosed with Mad Cow Disease. And there are alsoTHOUSANDS of "Downer Cows" in this country, cows that are well one day and dead the next. When these "Downer Cows" are ground up and fed to other animals, the other animals develop the equivalent of Mad Cow Disease.

So the government, as always, is talking out of both sides of their mouth. They are protecting the gigantic billion dollar meat and poultry industry rather than the American people.

What is the government doing to stop this dangerous feeding practice?

They're approaching it the same way they have handled the AIDS epidemic: They LIE!

1. First, they deny that there is ANY problem.

2. When the evidence becomes overwhelming that there is a BIG problem, they admit that there "might" be a problem, but they say they're not sure, they are studying it and if there is a problem, it's not a serious problem and there is no reason for alarm. Keep eating what you're eating, they advise.

3. When people start catching on that there really is a problem, the government will admit that at first they weren't as vigilant as they should of been, but the people who were then responsible for investigating the problem are no longer with the government (blame those guys - they're gone) and now the problem is "under control." And there is no cause for alarm. Keep eating the stuff, they advise you.

4. A number of years later they say, "Oh, we've found out that there really has been a pretty big problem all along, but NOW we've got it under control. So there is NO cause for alarm." Keep eating the stuff, they advise you.

5 Then a year or two later they admit that it's in ALL the different breeds of animals, but it's "low risk" and you probably won't get it so NO cause for alarm." Keep eating the stuff, they advise you.

6. When the problem continues to grow, they start dividing the Prion diseases into different categories so no one specific category has too many people in it.

7. When the problem becomes outrageous, they admit there's a small, but controllable problem, and then they start covering up the true statistics - the REAL number of people who have the disease or who have already died from the disease.

Their plan ALWAYS is to keep the public calm as they die!


It's proactive population control.
There are a number of manmade diseases at work in the world today.
The idea is to give "natural selection" a nudge so that it culls the herd a lot more "effectively" than it normally would.
And we ain't seen nothing yet.
Prions, mycoplasma, and other almost indetectable disease agents have been developed (or enhanced) in laboratories.
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Feb 26, 2009 8:32 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
Why dont you just quit eating meat? Youve got like 3 threads going on about this.
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Feb 26, 2009 8:36 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
krimsa: Why dont you just quit eating meat? Youve got like 3 threads going on about this.

It will never happen, although I do eat good organic home raised meat.
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Feb 26, 2009 8:39 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
These studies have been around going back to the late 1980's in the UK. Much like the GMO studies, the USDA and FDA ignore them because both the Secretary of Agriculture and many of the bureaucrats are in the back pocket of big agribusiness and farmers.
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Feb 26, 2009 8:41 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
toranoga: It will never happen, although I do eat good organic home raised meat.


Well I was talking to Norslyman actually but I think if a person is so worried about commercial beef (as they should be) then they need to STOP eating it or else raise their own for consumption. That way they know exactly what that livestock is ingesting and it is free of hormones and antibiotics unless that is somehow introduced into its food supply. I raise rabbits and that’s all I eat in the way of meat now.
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Feb 26, 2009 9:06 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
krimsa: Well I was talking to Norslyman actually but I think if a person is so worried about commercial beef (as they should be) then they need to STOP eating it or else raise their own for consumption. That way they know exactly what that livestock is ingesting and it is free of hormones and antibiotics unless that is somehow introduced into its food supply. I raise rabbits and that’s all I eat in the way of meat now.

I do raise my own pork, beef, poultry and lamb and I know exactly what they eat.
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Feb 26, 2009 9:21 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
toranoga: I do raise my own pork, beef, poultry and lamb and I know exactly what they eat.


Right but I was speaking to the OP
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Feb 26, 2009 9:45 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
krimsa: Right but I was speaking to the OP

I know, but I was getting bored!
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Feb 26, 2009 9:49 PM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
He has another similar thread going.
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Feb 27, 2009 7:09 AM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
pascado
pascadopascadodublin, Dublin Ireland2 Threads 20 Posts
To show u that people over their is full of lies and that orientation is been passed to their children and they also grow with lies so who is the most acute liar now them or their great grand fathers who introduced tha lie syndrom to the world system
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Feb 27, 2009 7:19 AM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
pascado: To show u that people over their is full of lies and that orientation is been passed to their children and they also grow with lies so who is the most acute liar now them or their great grand fathers who introduced tha lie syndrom to the world system
Is today "Insanity Day",or is it just me!dunno confused help
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Feb 27, 2009 7:24 AM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
Buckg73
Buckg73Buckg73Any, New Providence Bahamas1 Threads 198 Posts
There has been 137 deaths from Mad Cow, or Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease in 60 years. And you're worried about it? Get a hold of yourself. More people have died from lightning strikes. There is no connection between eating MAD COW MEAT and the disease. If you ate the meat from a mad cow, not only would you not get sick, you would have no idea you even ate it. Find another crazy thing to chase.
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Feb 27, 2009 7:24 AM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
Marseilles
MarseillesMarseillesSomewhere, Indiana USA4 Threads 436 Posts
Conrad73: Is today "Insanity Day",or is it just me!



wave No, Conrad, it's not just you...GONNA BE A CRAZY FRIDAY!!!!
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Feb 27, 2009 7:26 AM CST It's a mad, mad, mad, mad cow coverup!!!!!!
Buckg73: There has been 137 deaths from Mad Cow, or Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease in 60 years. And you're worried about it? Get a hold of yourself. More people have died from lightning strikes. There is no connection between eating MAD COW MEAT and the disease. If you ate the meat from a mad cow, not only would you not get sick, you would have no idea you even ate it. Find another crazy thing to chase.
That's what I been wondering about.
Mainly "a Lot of Noise In The Market".rolling on the floor laughing
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