how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office (39)

Jun 29, 2012 1:50 AM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
Can you please offer only considered responses as the matter really matters, i could do with a hand
Jun 29, 2012 2:03 AM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
bubbles2012
bubbles2012bubbles2012Southern Brisbane, Queensland Australia22 Threads 1 Polls 784 Posts
robplum: Can you please offer only considered responses as the matter really matters, i could do with a hand


Check the checker comes to mind... however, after my daughter had a drama with an ombudsman, she was told there was no recourse - I like you don't believe that - what about the governing body that oversees that department including the ombudsman....
Jun 29, 2012 2:20 AM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
Yeah but they pay people to ignore the truth, write back was is bunch of lies without right of appeal.
earlier this afternoon i paid $69 for online legal advice in asking does law require ombudsman to respond to correspondence and answer was there discretion, which only leave recourse in my circumstance to act in a manner i would prefer not to
Jun 29, 2012 2:29 AM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
it appears apparent the ombudsman office employs people to blatantly deliberately lie
Jun 29, 2012 5:19 AM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
TA

Thank you for your message to the Prime Minister.
10,000 words sent
Jun 29, 2012 6:29 AM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
Cyber_Man
Cyber_ManCyber_ManFairfield, Victoria Australia5 Threads 40 Posts
robplum: Can you please offer only considered responses as the matter really matters, i could do with a hand



My understanding is the Ombudsman is an impartial party a referee there for both sides of the story -.- cool
Jun 29, 2012 6:48 AM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
hinomunje
hinomunjehinomunjejindabyne, New South Wales Australia1 Threads 28 Posts
Cyber_Man: My understanding is the Ombudsman is an impartial party a referee there for both sides of the story -.-
until someone forks them some dollars under the counter
Jun 29, 2012 6:54 AM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
my experience is the ombudsman act covens what they can or should do, that the act relates to the federal police, and crime corruption watch dog commissioner and so forth
Jun 29, 2012 7:39 AM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
robplum: my experience is the ombudsman act covens what they can or should do, that the act relates to the federal police, and crime corruption watch dog commissioner and so forth


Believe it or not Rob I know where you are coming from,learnt
through experience, had too take a different tack.

The saying that I now try to stick to is (softly softly catchee monkey)try to find out on google if others have a complaint against this particular person because if they have lied to you they would lie to others,leaves a nasty taste in your mouth doesent it. sigh
Jun 29, 2012 7:56 AM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
Blizzard14u
Blizzard14uBlizzard14uGosnells, Western Australia Australia67 Threads 2 Polls 1,430 Posts
robplum: Can you please offer only considered responses as the matter really matters, i could do with a hand


They have never lied too me?
You just have to know how to use them into getting what you want! I have saved thousands off dollars using them when companies think they could just walk over me,

As Hinomunje said, if you don’t like their answer write too the minister or the prime minister! They have too respond because its in their mandate under job description, to serve the voting public interest,

professor
Jun 29, 2012 8:19 AM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
shootingstar67
shootingstar67shootingstar67Brisbane, Queensland Australia2 Posts
Can you be more specific? Which ombudsman's office? There are quite a few. And what happened?
Jun 29, 2012 9:35 AM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
shootingstar67: Can you be more specific? Which ombudsman's office? There are quite a few. And what happened?


Having suffered an Ombudman's enquiry regarding a road culvert carrying water underneath a road rather than over it and the d..head decided to grade his driveway from the culvert directly to his house and he was not happy, and I had to provide all the "evidence" within 3 days of his dated request (I do so hate these officious legalised beaurocrats with the Law to hide behind) as to why there was a road culvert draining water over a farming property for the 15 years before he bought the land and he decide to build and divert the water, and not according to his building permit, ummm.

On ther positive side, an elctricity company was chasing me for a $300 bill for 2 weeks usage (?????) after I sold my place. Took 3 years to sort this out (they couldn't locate me until they found a mobile number) but stopped harrassing me when I asked for the utility Ombudsman details.

Back to the Rob's point. The Ombudsman's Office will answer specific questions only (same as me in my line of work). Vague, ambiguious, rhetorical questions are not easily answered. And result in vague, ambiguious, rhetorical answers.

If your queries relates to the Family Court or the Collection Suicide Agency (CSA), then you can only expect vague, ambiguious, rhetorical answers. And I speak from many years of dealing with CSA. I was even on the CSA Advisory Board for a number of years and could not get a straight answer.
Jun 29, 2012 5:54 PM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
yeah the latter Wash

I filed application in Canberra and received response from Brisbane


Touchy names edited subject in part only

Incomprehensible response received back from xxxx xxxx

xxxx xxxx remarks she hopes that I will see that she has given careful consideration to my concerns expressed on appeal following the findings of Senior Investigating Officer xxxx xxxx

The bundle of documents accompanying my appeal contained my considered response for addressing Senior Investigating Officer xxxx concerns, my documents included all documents Senior Investigating Officer Buss requested be returned. Documents setting out the extent of attempted appeals filed with the NSW Legal Service Commissioner. I fully complied yet Ms Siuta’s remarks seem to indicate the subject matter filed at the bequest of the Senior Investigating Officer in her opinion, xxxx xxxx had no authority too request.

A Draft Decision made in a wink wink court, without giving notice to the applicant nor either in the presence of either the applicant or cross-applicant. The documents already submitted with the Office of the Commonwealth Ombudsman included an unlawful hand-written proposal claiming Justice xxxx xxxxx had previously rubber stamped a document headed DRAFT ORDER dismissing my business interests in NSW. The same business interests earlier without consideration by a Judge in the prescribed manner had been transferred from NSW to South Australia.
Jun 29, 2012 6:02 PM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
TWINbro
TWINbroTWINbrobadgerck mt toolebewong, Victoria Australia10 Threads 137 Posts
robplum: yeah the latter Wash

I filed application in Canberra and received response from BrisbaneTouchy names edited subject in part only

Incomprehensible response received back from xxxx xxxx

xxxx xxxx remarks she hopes that I will see that she has given careful consideration to my concerns expressed on appeal following the findings of Senior Investigating Officer xxxx xxxx

The bundle of documents accompanying my appeal contained my considered response for addressing Senior Investigating Officer xxxx concerns, my documents included all documents Senior Investigating Officer Buss requested be returned. Documents setting out the extent of attempted appeals filed with the NSW Legal Service Commissioner. I fully complied yet Ms Siuta’s remarks seem to indicate the subject matter filed at the bequest of the Senior Investigating Officer in her opinion, xxxx xxxx had no authority too request.

A Draft Decision made in a wink wink court, without giving notice to the applicant nor either in the presence of either the applicant or cross-applicant. The documents already submitted with the Office of the Commonwealth Ombudsman included an unlawful hand-written proposal claiming Justice xxxx xxxxx had previously rubber stamped a document headed DRAFT ORDER dismissing my business interests in NSW. The same business interests earlier without consideration by a Judge in the prescribed manner had been transferred from NSW to South Australia.
geez rb you sure do have a lot of troubles with this stupid govt,the sooner theyre gone the better
Jun 29, 2012 6:09 PM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
The others were no better, probably lot worse actually, numinous time even when filed in accordance with the FC Act attorney generals have ignored since La Varch did

Been lied to be to by dozens of people payed by government since 1990's

hope your doing better mate
Jun 29, 2012 6:30 PM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
Well i've pulled a few teeth out in it, + the ongoing NZ stuff at the same time.
Early in the peace federal police offered me violence, well over 15kg of documents, high court just played politics, judges have lied and acted unlawfully, makes you sick, is why i am so anti all them

asked Julia "does your government support ombudsman office telling lies"!
Jun 29, 2012 6:34 PM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
TWINbro
TWINbroTWINbrobadgerck mt toolebewong, Victoria Australia10 Threads 137 Posts
robplum: Well i've pulled a few teeth out in it, + the ongoing NZ stuff at the same time.
Early in the peace federal police offered me violence, well over 15kg of documents, high court just played politics, judges have lied and acted unlawfully, makes you sick, is why i am so anti all them

asked Julia "does your government support ombudsman office telling lies"!
crikey,i,m glad i lead a quiet life lol.be interesting to see if julia responds.
have a good day rob,gotta cut up another tree bloody wind last night,think i,ll take out shares in stihl,seeing i buy so many blades haha
Jun 29, 2012 6:37 PM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
i just managed to purchase a GB Abor Bar and chain combo, catch you later mate, watch your toes laugh
thanks for your words to mate
Jun 29, 2012 7:28 PM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
robplum: Well i've pulled a few teeth out in it, + the ongoing NZ stuff at the same time.
Early in the peace federal police offered me violence, well over 15kg of documents, high court just played politics, judges have lied and acted unlawfully, makes you sick, is why i am so anti all them

asked Julia "does your government support ombudsman office telling lies"!


Gosh Rob can see why you get grumpy from time to time.doh
Jun 29, 2012 8:27 PM CST how would you deal with being lied to by the Ombudsman Office
yeah i do get a bit up tight in it some times, just goes on with every liar in it hoping i'll just give up, but aren't gunner do that
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