The Aussie election (131)

Jun 11, 2016 7:24 PM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777
mickyj777mickyj777adelaide, South Australia Australia10 Threads 342 Posts
Is it just me but when that rich right wing liberal PM tells Aussies who we should and shouldn't vote for yeah right.
Ok I was a labor voter it's in my blood voted for them for years .
I swapped voted greens having second thoughts
But when the PM says you can't vote for Nick what's his name makes me think I might change again . Cause I vote greens it's labor
Nick whats his name can take 22 percent of my state from the liberals and labour makes you think .
Yes I've thought Nick is a nut job in the past but when the big wigs say no that means yes
Jun 11, 2016 10:31 PM CST The Aussie election
yeah Senator Nick Xenophon worries them, but he sold out a couple of times to
The NXT team


Palmer United Party although he also sold out to L& L to, i notice Clive is supporting couple of candidates in Queensland instead of running himself. Just because Lib and Labor are attacking Palmer over The Palmer Nickel and Cobalt Refinery is operated by Queensland Nickel, any clear minded person would deduce the issues Palmer is been blamed for are actually deeds done by Qld Government not Palmer. And he is one the very few politicians who has stood up against Chinese control in Australia.
That is why I think voters should keep an open mind and dig into issues like that.

Lot of new parties registered for 2016 elections:

Handy List Current Register of Political Parties




here is list of all candidates

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Jun 12, 2016 3:24 AM CST The Aussie election
arapaho
arapahoarapahobrisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1,009 Posts
I pick the one's most unlikely to win and put labour and the libs last,
Jun 12, 2016 3:38 AM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777: Is it just me but when that rich right wing liberal PM tells Aussies who we should and shouldn't vote for yeah right.
Ok I was a labor voter it's in my blood voted for them for years .
I swapped voted greens having second thoughts
But when the PM says you can't vote for Nick what's his name makes me think I might change again . Cause I vote greens it's labor
Nick whats his name can take 22 percent of my state from the liberals and labour makes you think .
Yes I've thought Nick is a nut job in the past but when the big wigs say no that means yes
looks to me that the current leader is trying to add length to current term so he can do some shitty work not spoken off , hidden agenda . Aussies have a wonderful opportunity to send him packing . There will be tears if he remains .
Jun 12, 2016 4:19 AM CST The Aussie election
far to close to China...but hasn't lost his listen...gets on with Key ok...dunno hasn't been there long enough for me to harshly judge
Jun 12, 2016 4:30 AM CST The Aussie election
robplum: far to close to China...but hasn't lost his listen...gets on with Key ok...dunno hasn't been there long enough for me to harshly judge
good reason to dump him if he gets on with Key . Little thing came out the other day , 1 in ten NZers either living in their cars , in car sheds or on the streets , just farking great aye
Jun 12, 2016 4:36 AM CST The Aussie election
yeah, wonder how many other soldiers like myself who haven't been lawfully discharged or paid there pay
Jun 12, 2016 4:42 AM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777
mickyj777mickyj777adelaide, South Australia Australia10 Threads 342 Posts
epirb: good reason to dump him if he gets on with Key . Little thing came out the other day , 1 in ten NZers either living in their cars , in car sheds or on the streets , just farking great aye


As much as I would never ever in the past vote for Nick he has the liberals worried he could get 22 percent of my states vote . Including the seat of Grey a very safe liberal seat been a very long time since they last lost it .
Seems Nicks party is the leader in the poll of that seat
Including a city with an iron works that state govt is going to put 50 million towards saving it and our lovely PM can not commit to saving all those jobs in a safe liberal seat .
Guess he's thinking giving this state all the new subs to build is help enough and they are made in a safe labor seat .
Just some thoughts
Jun 12, 2016 4:54 AM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777: As much as I would never ever in the past vote for Nick he has the liberals worried he could get 22 percent of my states vote . Including the seat of Grey a very safe liberal seat been a very long time since they last lost it .
Seems Nicks party is the leader in the poll of that seat
Including a city with an iron works that state govt is going to put 50 million towards saving it and our lovely PM can not commit to saving all those jobs in a safe liberal seat .
Guess he's thinking giving this state all the new subs to build is help enough and they are made in a safe labor seat .
Just some thoughts
wink its not weather this guy is better or worse than another its a matter of throwing out the incumbents every time you can , sort of keeps the wankers on their toes .
Jun 12, 2016 5:18 AM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777: As much as I would never ever in the past vote for Nick he has the liberals worried he could get 22 percent of my states vote . Including the seat of Grey a very safe liberal seat been a very long time since they last lost it .
Seems Nicks party is the leader in the poll of that seat
Including a city with an iron works that state govt is going to put 50 million towards saving it and our lovely PM can not commit to saving all those jobs in a safe liberal seat .
Guess he's thinking giving this state all the new subs to build is help enough and they are made in a safe labor seat .
Just some thoughts

think its a pretty safe bet Whyalla steel mill will supply steel for french subs


The Whyalla Steelworks is a fully integrated steelworks and the only manufacturer of rail in Australia. Iron ore is mined in the Middleback Range to feed the steelworks, resulting in the distribution of finished steel products of over 90 different grades.

The Whyalla Steelworks was opened in May 1941 with the first blast furnace 'blown in'. A shipyard was also constructed, designed to aid the British Commonwealth's efforts in World War II. After the war, the steelworks and shipyards continued to produce a range of products including rail track and maritime vessels for commercial use.


Updated 9 Mar 2016, 4:41pm

Whyalla Steelworks, generic
PHOTO: Arrium must make a decision on its Whyalla steelworks by April. (ABC News: Nick Harmsen)
RELATED STORY: Union fears 'forced' pay cuts for Arrium workers amid crisis meetingRELATED STORY: Arrium axes 30 jobs, workers to take pay cuts
MAP: Whyalla 5600
An upgrade to 600 kilometres of the interstate rail line running north of Adelaide has been brought forward, with the Prime Minister saying it will "provide considerable support" to the troubled Whyalla steelworks.



Australian steel for subs - but not from Arrium

But InDaily can reveal Arrium may miss out on any benefit from yesterday’s announcement which, though a boon for local employment, will do little to boost their steel stocks because the Whyalla plant, which went into voluntary administration early this month, produces long steel.




likely InDaily is talking shit
Jun 12, 2016 5:40 AM CST The Aussie election
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has said it would be ‘premature’ for the federal government to follow the state’s lead by investing in Arrium.

Mr Turnbull said the Commonwealth was still waiting for the result of an independent report into the assistance requested from the company’s administrators.



Low interest loans of up to $100 million could be made available for Arrium.

This comes as a federal response to the state government’s announcement of a $50 million rescue package for the Whyalla Steelworks on Thursday.

The state requested that the federal government follow up the announcement with $100 million of their own to support Arrium.

But Member for Grey Rowan Ramsey said the Prime Minister is considering making low interest loans available, rather than a direct investment.

“The government remains open to consideration of further investment for infrastructure support to ensure the steel maker’s long term viability, depending on the advice of an independent report,” he said.


Independent Senator Nick Xenophon has said the ball is now in the federal government’s court following the state government’s $50 million injection to support a new owner of the Whyalla Steelworks.

Senator Xenophon echoed SA Premier Jay Weatherill’s call for a bipartisan commitment from both major parties for funding to support the long-term sustainability of Arrium.

“This would give an immediate boost in confidence to employees, local businesses and the community at large,” he said.

“Thursday’s announcement was welcome and follows a request by the administrator of Arrium who is working in the best interests of all stakeholders and pursuant to the Corporations Act.”


Arrium administrator Mark Mentha has described the state government’s $50 million investment in Arrium’s Whyalla operations as a ‘shot in the arm’.

Jun 12, 2016 5:56 AM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777
mickyj777mickyj777adelaide, South Australia Australia10 Threads 342 Posts
robplum: Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has said it would be ‘premature’ for the federal government to follow the state’s lead by investing in Arrium.

Mr Turnbull said the Commonwealth was still waiting for the result of an independent report into the assistance requested from the company’s administrators.
Low interest loans of up to $100 million could be made available for Arrium.

This comes as a federal response to the state government’s announcement of a $50 million rescue package for the Whyalla Steelworks on Thursday.

The state requested that the federal government follow up the announcement with $100 million of their own to support Arrium.


But Member for Grey Rowan Ramsey said the Prime Minister is considering making low interest loans available, rather than a direct investment.

“The government remains open to consideration of further investment for infrastructure support to ensure the steel maker’s long term viability, depending on the advice of an independent report,” he said.Independent Senator Nick Xenophon has said the ball is now in the federal government’s court following the state government’s $50 million injection to support a new owner of the Whyalla Steelworks.

Senator Xenophon echoed SA Premier Jay Weatherill’s call for a bipartisan commitment from both major parties for funding to support the long-term sustainability of Arrium.

“This would give an immediate boost in confidence to employees, local businesses and the community at large,” he said.

“Thursday’s announcement was welcome and follows a request by the administrator of Arrium who is working in the best interests of all stakeholders and pursuant to the Corporations Act.”Arrium administrator Mark Mentha has described the state government’s $50 million investment in Arrium’s Whyalla operations as a ‘shot in the arm’.



Guess we will learn if they win the election
Jun 15, 2016 6:48 AM CST The Aussie election
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia87 Threads 1 Polls 5,212 Posts
4 years ago I was in Iron Knob and stopped in the only local hotel still pen. Publican talked about Iron Knob reopening because the early days ad only extracted #1 grade iron ore but so much #2 grade was still available, especially when compared to #4 grade available world wide.

Last month I drove by Iron Monarch which was supposedly depleted many years ago, it is now very active.

The Eyre Peninsular (back of Whyalla) produces the richest seams of iron ore in the world.

4 years ago I was eld up on the Sturt Highway heading to Coober Pedy while they were undertaking roadworks for the new iron ore mine.

Lang Hancock got $1 per ton for his iron ore discoveries. Gina R inherited this little amount. Who gets the money from these "new" developments?
Jun 15, 2016 12:05 PM CST The Aussie election
spartan42
spartan42spartan42Sydney, New South Wales Australia3 Posts
mickyj777: Is it just me but when that rich right wing liberal PM tells Aussies who we should and shouldn't vote for yeah right.
Ok I was a labor voter it's in my blood voted for them for years .
I swapped voted greens having second thoughts
But when the PM says you can't vote for Nick what's his name makes me think I might change again . Cause I vote greens it's labor
Nick whats his name can take 22 percent of my state from the liberals and labour makes you think .
Yes I've thought Nick is a nut job in the past but when the big wigs say no that means yes


According to your logical factor of who to vote for the clear winner should be "Australia first" party. They are the ones EVERY party is telling us not to vote for !
Jun 15, 2016 8:14 PM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777
mickyj777mickyj777adelaide, South Australia Australia10 Threads 342 Posts
spartan42: According to your logical factor of who to vote for the clear winner should be "Australia first" party. They are the ones EVERY party is telling us not to vote for !


Yep ok
But in south Australia the prime minister is urging us not to vote for Nicks Party
Is he not saying anything in your city or state
Jun 15, 2016 11:06 PM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777
mickyj777mickyj777adelaide, South Australia Australia10 Threads 342 Posts
spartan42: According to your logical factor of who to vote for the clear winner should be "Australia first" party. They are the ones EVERY party is telling us not to vote for !


I think you living in Sydney you need to know there is more to Australia than Sydney or Melbourne .
Out in the rest of country things are going on
South Australia
1 liberal seat of Grey it's a seat the Libs can not loose
Up steps Xenophon goes from a single person to a party . Grey a safe liberal seat half the size of south Australia suddenly liberals look like loosing it .
2 south Australia stands to be a state that 22 percent of the vote will go to the Xenophon party
3 the prime minster is telling south Australia not to vote for Xenophon party
4 one of the big parties liberal or labor have changed the colour of their signs to match Xenophon parties signs . Is someone running scared .

Let's face it the liberals don't want independent politicians because if the liberals get those seats they control the government and the country .

But hey what would I know I'm a low paid worker whose family been here for centuries
And the aboriginal part of me been here longer
Jun 17, 2016 5:36 AM CST The Aussie election
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia87 Threads 1 Polls 5,212 Posts
mickyj777: I think you living in Sydney you need to know there is more to Australia than Sydney or Melbourne .
Out in the rest of country things are going on
South Australia
1 liberal seat of Grey it's a seat the Libs can not loose
Up steps Xenophon goes from a single person to a party . Grey a safe liberal seat half the size of south Australia suddenly liberals look like loosing it .
2 south Australia stands to be a state that 22 percent of the vote will go to the Xenophon party
3 the prime minster is telling south Australia not to vote for Xenophon party
4 one of the big parties liberal or labor have changed the colour of their signs to match Xenophon parties signs . Is someone running scared .

Let's face it the liberals don't want independent politicians because if the liberals get those seats they control the government and the country .

But hey what would I know I'm a low paid worker whose family been here for centuries
And the aboriginal part of me been here longer


I am a very low paid bloke these days who has not worked in 3 years. After not receiving an income for over 1 year and sitting in a CentreUnlinked Office for a long period just to get my Health Care Card, I did ask what were the guidelines for the dole.

I am not eligible for the dole because it does not exist anymore. "You must be seeking a New Start Allowance."

WTF I wanted to inquire about the DOLE. I am not new out of school or fresh off the boat...I want to EARN my money. After the best part of 50 years earning an income and paying my taxes, maybe I should get something back.

Bill Shorten wants to give $100 million to Attrium so that the Whyalla Steel Works are more attractive to a foreign buyer. He leads the team that saw so many of my friends go out of business because Keating said small players do not need to compete with foreign imports in this Banana Republic.

The Laboring Party and the Australian Services Union robbed me and a few thousand of my colleagues of more than $300,000 EACH in 2001 because they did not want to see us workers as being self-funded retirees not relying on the Government of the day to sustain a lifestyle they had been trying to achieve after working for 50 years or more. Yeah, some of us were in the workforce during our teens and some of us really have to keep getting some income stream in our 70s.

Sorry but Laboring can go and keep on fu..... themselves before they will ever see my vote again.

As far as the Xenophon party is concerned, ANY vote for a minority party is the same as the vote for Tony Windsor in NSW where he got money diverted to satisfy a few voters while that funding meant many other worthwhile causes were put on hold.

A short time ago the Laboring Party was against the Gonski Report on education of Australian students as it meant that the Federal Govt was looking to take over control of the States responsibility to educate us Aussies. Yet Bill Shitcreek now says it is the best thing to happen.
Jun 17, 2016 7:16 AM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777
mickyj777mickyj777adelaide, South Australia Australia10 Threads 342 Posts
wash2u: I am a very low paid bloke these days who has not worked in 3 years. After not receiving an income for over 1 year and sitting in a CentreUnlinked Office for a long period just to get my Health Care Card, I did ask what were the guidelines for the dole.

I am not eligible for the dole because it does not exist anymore. "You must be seeking a New Start Allowance."

WTF I wanted to inquire about the DOLE. I am not new out of school or fresh off the boat...I want to EARN my money. After the best part of 50 years earning an income and paying my taxes, maybe I should get something back.

Bill Shorten wants to give $100 million to Attrium so that the Whyalla Steel Works are more attractive to a foreign buyer. He leads the team that saw so many of my friends go out of business because Keating said small players do not need to compete with foreign imports in this Banana Republic.

The Laboring Party and the Australian Services Union robbed me and a few thousand of my colleagues of more than $300,000 EACH in 2001 because they did not want to see us workers as being self-funded retirees not relying on the Government of the day to sustain a lifestyle they had been trying to achieve after working for 50 years or more. Yeah, some of us were in the workforce during our teens and some of us really have to keep getting some income stream in our 70s.

Sorry but Laboring can go and keep on fu..... themselves before they will ever see my vote again.

As far as the Xenophon party is concerned, ANY vote for a minority party is the same as the vote for Tony Windsor in NSW where he got money diverted to satisfy a few voters while that funding meant many other worthwhile causes were put on hold.

A short time ago the Laboring Party was against the Gonski Report on education of Australian students as it meant that the Federal Govt was looking to take over control of the States responsibility to educate us Aussies. Yet Bill Shitcreek now says it is the best thing to happen.


What happened with the health care card once I finally got on incapacitated benefits which is s fancy Centrelink word for sickness I got a health care card .
My last wage or part wage was December 21 .
I'm starting to apply for disability .
But rehab wants me at a job network but had to stop they were not hearing me
Work cover hadn't been totally decided yet industrial court trial had a pre trial I've written a statement and will be appearing August September .
They can't send me even though I still have health issues like finding out if I'm having an ear operation due an injured ear from my injury .

So I haven't been to work since October 21 2015
Work says I can't return as its not work cover I'm a liability
But they are leaving it to the court to decide

And I'm getting benefits better than zero income less than being a low paid worker

So I totally understand low paid work
1 when I work I am one
2 getting sickness benefits is lower than a low paid worker

Xenophon party may take 22 percent of the south Australia seats in the federal election and this week it was the seat of grey a seat the liberals can not loose
Say what we want the Libs say don't vote for the Xenophon party are they scared
Don't they understand when you tell people no they do it anyway
Jun 17, 2016 7:24 AM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777
mickyj777mickyj777adelaide, South Australia Australia10 Threads 342 Posts
I should add in I forgot after dec 21 2015
There was no more wages
I had been paid 1 week sick leave 1 week annual leave 1 week long service leave and what ever Rostered days off leave . Then four pay packets of zero were the last I got and I had an hour something left Of long service leave that went down 79 cents every week for four weeks that 79cents went into my super .
I could not get Centrelink money as my employers insurer refused to say yes or no to work cover they lied to my solicitor twice .
So by Mid Feb I could get incapacitated benefits .
Yet those to companies are worse off for me almost dying from a brain injury .

Now any government that would kick those companies in the butt I'd vote for .
Jun 17, 2016 6:57 PM CST The Aussie election
epirb: good reason to dump him if he gets on with Key . Little thing came out the other day , 1 in ten NZers either living in their cars , in car sheds or on the streets , just farking great aye

you might enjoy checking out how dairy calves are living in China, they are probably better off than NZ homeless people

little introduction

China Huishan Dairy Holdings Company Limited plans to invest up to CNY2.5 billion to build a new dairy base in Yancheng, Jiangsu province.

Modern Dairy, was listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange in 2010, two years after KKR and CDH first invested in the company. Its herd includes around 180,000 dairy cows across 22 farms which produce over 700,000 tons of raw milk per year.


Yang Kai, Chairman of China Huishan Dairy Holdings Co., had an idea.

He wanted to buy back more stock, presumably to drive up the value of his 74% stake in the Chinese dairy farm operator, but the balance sheet was already weighed down with CNY10.4 billion in loans from banks.

So what did Yang do? Why, instead of borrowing more money to finance the buybacks (which helped drive shares up by some 72% since last summer), he sold 50,000 cows to one Guangdong Yuexin Finance Lease Co. for CNY1 billion.



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This photo by George Steinmetz, posted on National Geographic’s Instagram, shows Bengbu Dairy in Anhui Province, China, a farm that is home to 39,000 Holstein cows. These hutches are where newborn cows live – checked twice daily by uniformed workers who wear hairnets and face masks because “hygiene is the top priority.”

http://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/massive-dairy-farm-proves-the-fallacy-of-happy-cows/
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