Is Obama a Socialist (188)

Aug 19, 2011 2:00 AM CST Is Obama a Socialist
jvaski: Here ya go .......AGAIN !


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Aug 19, 2011 4:36 PM CST Is Obama a Socialist
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Actually Andrew C. McCarthy makes a case that Obama is a Alinskyite.

He says on page 11 of his book, "It is vital to remember that the President is a Alinskyite, so steeped in the ideology of the seminal community organizer that he became a top instructor in Alinskyite tactics for other up-and-coming radicals. Alinskyites are fifth-columnists. The have, in substance the same goals as open revolutionaries; overthrowing the exiting free market republic and replacing it with a radical's utopia."

McCarthy has said a mouthful here. It sounds like he is talking like
1950's Senator McCarty that engaged Communist 5 columist with his Congressional hearing. But he is not. Alinsky came along after the McCarty 1950s hearings on Communism. Alinsky is a anarchist, that wanted to use any mean possible to destroy to the country and to mold this radical utopia. That does not necessarily make him or Obama a Socialist or Communist.

The goals of Alinsky's utopia and assusming Obama is a Alinskyite...."it will be perfect, communal, equal and just."

But for a moment say McCarty has hit the nail on the head. Obama is a Alinskyite. Does that explain the health care bill? The reason the government has moved so slowly rebuild confidence in the free markets?
Obama's lack of interest in the Constitution and the laws of the country? And his laise faire approach to goverance? The crisis approach to government? The answer there is yes.

Alinsky would be perfectly at home in the Obama administration.....
Aug 19, 2011 4:51 PM CST Is Obama a Socialist
ttom500: Actually Andrew C. McCarthy makes a case that Obama is a Alinskyite.

He says on page 11 of his book, "It is vital to remember that the President is a Alinskyite, so steeped in the ideology of the seminal community organizer that he became a top instructor in Alinskyite tactics for other up-and-coming radicals. Alinskyites are fifth-columnists. The have, in substance the same goals as open revolutionaries; overthrowing the exiting free market republic and replacing it with a radical's utopia."

McCarthy has said a mouthful here. It sounds like he is talking like
1950's Senator McCarty that engaged Communist 5 columist with his Congressional hearing. But he is not. Alinsky came along after the McCarty 1950s hearings on Communism. Alinsky is a anarchist, that wanted to use any mean possible to destroy to the country and to mold this radical utopia. That does not necessarily make him or Obama a Socialist or Communist.

The goals of Alinsky's utopia and assusming Obama is a Alinskyite...."it will be perfect, communal, equal and just."

But for a moment say McCarty has hit the nail on the head. Obama is a Alinskyite. Does that explain the health care bill? The reason the government has moved so slowly rebuild confidence in the free markets?
Obama's lack of interest in the Constitution and the laws of the country? And his laise faire approach to goverance? The crisis approach to government? The answer there is yes.

Alinsky would be perfectly at home in the Obama administration.....






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Aug 19, 2011 6:17 PM CST Is Obama a Socialist
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Conrad73: http://alinskydefeater.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/the-13-main-alinsky-tactics/


Very interesting!!!!! I'm passing it along to some friends.

Funny how Dude tries to model after Alinsky... (tries) laugh
Aug 19, 2011 10:56 PM CST Is Obama a Socialist
mustbnutz
mustbnutzmustbnutzKingman, Arizona USA33 Threads 5 Polls 3,730 Posts
Obama is not a Socialist......however.....he does not know how to add two plus two........
Aug 20, 2011 12:33 AM CST Is Obama a Socialist
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Juan it is, All in good fun now. Obama has spent your future. Your children's future. Their children's future. For what? Certainly not to give them the decision making empowerment of having the wealth in the future.

No, he spent the country to the brink of economic collapse to just to do what McCarthy is saying. Failing the free markets of the republic. McCarthy book was published in 2010. Yet he predicted this 2011 deficit ceiling crisis and economic havoc it would cause.

McCarthy is a trained prosecuting criminal attroney, He is not some economist looking at numbers from the economic sectors to make the prediction. McCarthy is looking at motives and linkage. Obama's ideological motives for his decisions. His linkage with others in the far left. And later he makes the connection between the American left and radical Islam.

I cheated..I read ahead. It is a doozy of a connection. I will give you a hint. It revolves around the lone DEM Muslim representative in the House of Congress. A man that has changed his name 7 times. Why does a honest man change his name 7 times? I will let your consider that for a while.

Ever since this Debt ceiling crisis has been going on...for the last three weeks the stock markets has free fallen. The world's market have free fallen. It was not the REP or the Tea Party that did the spending. But of course we were not going to have double dip that carried us into a depression. When do you call this a second double dip?

It is like this.You can drive car fast or slow.You drive slow, you get better miles per gallon and go further and longer. You drive fast and have less mile per gallon and will run out of gas sooner travel shorter. The car literally has no fuel to run on.

Spending money in the Federal Government has often been termed the fuel that drives the economy. He spent fast for a reason......to run out of gas and fail the country. When S & P downgrades the bonds and literally begins that process....what does he do? Begin a investigation into S & P. Like I said it is all in good fun, for liberals and leftists that have wanted to fail this country for the last 30 years.

Don't kid yourself Juan....the American people realized they made horrible mistake with Obama's election in 2008. That is why the mid term were a diaster for the DEM and why Obama approvals just hit 39%, the lowest yet.
Aug 20, 2011 3:59 PM CST Is Obama a Socialist
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
This so simple JV and SHD could understand it:

Warren Buffett’s Taxing the Rich Won't Solve Deficit, Says Tax Foundation
Friday, August 19, 2011
By Matt Cover


(CNSNews.com) – Taxing millionaires and billionaires more – a position advocated by billionaire Warren Buffett and President Barack Obama – won’t make much of a dent in the national debt or the record federal budget deficits, a new study finds.

“Even taking every last penny from every individual making more than $10 million per year would only reduce the nation's deficit by 12 percent and the debt by 2 percent,” the non-partisan Tax Foundation’s David Logan writes.

“There's simply not enough wealth in the community of the rich to erase this country's problems by waving some magic tax wand,” said Logan.

Buffett, in an August 15 op-ed in the New York Times said it was time to stop “coddling” the wealthy and called on Congress to raise taxes on those making $1 million or more.

“But for those making more than $1 million -- there were 236,883 such households in 2009 -- I would raise rates immediately on taxable income in excess of $1 million, including, of course, dividends and capital gains. And for those who make $10 million or more -- there were 8,274 in 2009 -- I would suggest an additional increase in rate,” Buffett wrote.

“My friends and I have been coddled long enough by a billionaire-friendly Congress,” wrote Buffett.

However, according to the Tax Foundation study written by Logan, even taxing the nation’s millionaires at 50 percent – even eliminating loopholes and deductions – would only reduce the deficit by 8 percent and the national debt by 1 percent.

“aking half of the yearly income from every person making between one and ten million dollars would only decrease the nation's debt by 1%,” the report said.



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Taxing millionaires at an effective tax rate of 50 percent would raise only $120 billion more, according to Tax Foundation calculations based on IRS data.

Taxing those who make $10 million or more at an even higher rate, as Buffett advised, would also do little to reduce the deficit and debt. Tax Foundation calculations indicate that taxing these individuals at an effective rate of 100 percent would only net the government $186 billion, reducing the deficit by 12 percent and the debt by an additional 2 percent.

In fact, the only way for the government to solve its fiscal issues with revenue would be to confiscate every single dollar from every single American making $200,000 or more per year, the study said.

“Finally, to put everything in perspective, think about what would need to be done to erase the federal deficit this year: After everyone making more than $200,000/year has paid taxes, the IRS would need to take every single penny of disposable income they have left. Such an act would raise approximately $1.53 trillion,” reported the Tax Foundation.

Buffett, in his New York Times op-ed, said, “It’s time for our government to get serious about shared sacrifice.”
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