Is Obama a Socialist (188)
mr1983: You are missing my point. Socialism doesn't necessarily mean communist Russia. Bush's policy of No Child Left Behind is a socialist policy but nobody is suggesting that Bush is Stalin.
Americans must separate their fear of Russian style communism with socialist policies.
Americans must separate their fear of Russian style communism with socialist policies.
Of course, socialism means socialism and communism means communism..... However, that does not take away from the "fact" that socialism is a big step in the direction of communism with respect to the way it "conditions" people to give up/ relinquish freedom without even being aware of it...they can't see the forest for the trees...And, PS America, as a whole, does not fear Russian style communism, what ever the hell that is!
leigh2154: Of course, socialism means socialism and communism means communism..... However, that does not take away from the "fact" that socialism is a big step in the direction of communism with respect to the way it "conditions" people to give up/ relinquish freedom without even being aware of it...they can't see the forest for the trees...And, PS America, as a whole, does not fear Russian style communism, what ever the hell that is!
the young Man is obviously regurgitating what was poured into him in College!
A Socialist may imply he has good intentions. Whereas I just see him milking the taxpayer for the benefit of the small ring of chosen Capitalists he has around him, the ones whom have either directly funded his campaign, or the financiers of Wall Street and the Fed which have their d*ck in the mouth of all politicians.
During Obama's time in office we've still seen a broadening gap between the super-rich and everyone else, and little rejuvenation of private-sector trade unions(even during the recession) - telling to say the least.
Each company still has human resources departments and costly industrial tribunals to put up with instead of unionised workers. Precisely because these days we have become so anti-union each company has to carry an array of non-productive untermensch(sub humans)that work in Human resources up and down the land, circled by the parasitic lawyer who looks on in glee at the increased regulation and tendency for workers to now sue their employer instead of striking. Better to have the trade unions in industry before these pen-pushing wastes of life. A true Socialist wouldn't tolerate carrying this filth.
During Obama's time in office we've still seen a broadening gap between the super-rich and everyone else, and little rejuvenation of private-sector trade unions(even during the recession) - telling to say the least.
Each company still has human resources departments and costly industrial tribunals to put up with instead of unionised workers. Precisely because these days we have become so anti-union each company has to carry an array of non-productive untermensch(sub humans)that work in Human resources up and down the land, circled by the parasitic lawyer who looks on in glee at the increased regulation and tendency for workers to now sue their employer instead of striking. Better to have the trade unions in industry before these pen-pushing wastes of life. A true Socialist wouldn't tolerate carrying this filth.
Conrad73: the young Man is obviously regurgitating what was poured into him in College!
Elective courses!!!...Total waste of time and money!!
Spain,France,Sweden,Switzerland,to mentioned some countries that have or had socialist goverment...and these governmemts were elected by the people...if you trying to say that Obama is a communist,well,he is not...Socialism and Communismt,are different kind of ideaologies.
TrueBlue1986: A Socialist may imply he has good intentions. Whereas I just see him milking the taxpayer for the benefit of the small ring of chosen Capitalists he has around him, the ones whom have either directly funded his campaign, or the financiers of Wall Street and the Fed which have their d*ck in the mouth of all politicians.
During Obama's time in office we've still seen a broadening gap between the super-rich and everyone else, and little rejuvenation of private-sector trade unions(even during the recession) - telling to say the least.
Each company still has human resources departments and costly industrial tribunals to put up with instead of unionised workers. Precisely because these days we have become so anti-union each company has to carry an array of non-productive untermensch(sub humans)that work in Human resources up and down the land, circled by the parasitic lawyer who looks on in glee at the increased regulation and tendency for workers to now sue their employer instead of striking. Better to have the trade unions in industry before these pen-pushing wastes of life. A true Socialist wouldn't tolerate carrying this filth.
the Unions have become part of the Problem,and have been for a while!During Obama's time in office we've still seen a broadening gap between the super-rich and everyone else, and little rejuvenation of private-sector trade unions(even during the recession) - telling to say the least.
Each company still has human resources departments and costly industrial tribunals to put up with instead of unionised workers. Precisely because these days we have become so anti-union each company has to carry an array of non-productive untermensch(sub humans)that work in Human resources up and down the land, circled by the parasitic lawyer who looks on in glee at the increased regulation and tendency for workers to now sue their employer instead of striking. Better to have the trade unions in industry before these pen-pushing wastes of life. A true Socialist wouldn't tolerate carrying this filth.
They are against Workers,not for them!
TrueBlue1986: A Socialist may imply he has good intentions. Whereas I just see him milking the taxpayer for the benefit of the small ring of chosen Capitalists he has around him, the ones whom have either directly funded his campaign, or the financiers of Wall Street and the Fed which have their d*ck in the mouth of all politicians.
During Obama's time in office we've still seen a broadening gap between the super-rich and everyone else, and little rejuvenation of private-sector trade unions(even during the recession) - telling to say the least.
Each company still has human resources departments and costly industrial tribunals to put up with instead of unionised workers. Precisely because these days we have become so anti-union each company has to carry an array of non-productive untermensch(sub humans)that work in Human resources up and down the land, circled by the parasitic lawyer who looks on in glee at the increased regulation and tendency for workers to now sue their employer instead of striking. Better to have the trade unions in industry before these pen-pushing wastes of life. A true Socialist wouldn't tolerate carrying this filth.
During Obama's time in office we've still seen a broadening gap between the super-rich and everyone else, and little rejuvenation of private-sector trade unions(even during the recession) - telling to say the least.
Each company still has human resources departments and costly industrial tribunals to put up with instead of unionised workers. Precisely because these days we have become so anti-union each company has to carry an array of non-productive untermensch(sub humans)that work in Human resources up and down the land, circled by the parasitic lawyer who looks on in glee at the increased regulation and tendency for workers to now sue their employer instead of striking. Better to have the trade unions in industry before these pen-pushing wastes of life. A true Socialist wouldn't tolerate carrying this filth.
We are in desperate need of some "new" material around here!!
Hi Blusey!!
How ya doin??????
Conrad73: the Unions have become part of the Problem,and have been for a while!
They are against Workers,not for them!
They are against Workers,not for them!
Unions are all about their bottom line and where the next extravagant vacation labeled "union meeting" will be head!!
The problem with Obama's socialism is that it is not even very good socialism.
Today large banks in the US bull doze 100s of foreclosed homes. Frist Obama's socialism failed to end the foreclosers, yes? The bank bailouts. Then the banks faced with fiscal loses in having unoccupied homes....decides to bull dose them and end thier use as dwelling. When you have high unemployment and many living in car and on the street.
Eventually how owns the piece of property? The town or city does. To?
To make a small park or doggies walk with. Totally outside of its growth plan.
At least in Russia socialism eventually got people places to live. You might have 10 families on the same floor in the People's Apartment building. But it was dry and warm in the wintertime. There was a big park for play and walks nearby.
But that is not all. The FAA.....Federal Aviation Authority begins to lay off 1000s of air traffic controllers....as the agency 'has run out of money'. Let them sleep more on the job and pay them less.
But Obama's socialism cannot even get the agency funds for making the
payroll.
He can give 6 billion to global warming on a trip to Coopenhaggen.....but he cannot meet the payroll of the FAA? You tell me. I can breath easily today. But if I take a plane ride I might end up in a accident. And they are having accidents related to FAA staffing issues.
If it is not one crisis.....it is another. Even socialism can stop a crisis once in while when it gets lucky. But Obama's socialism is even failing and in crisis.
Today large banks in the US bull doze 100s of foreclosed homes. Frist Obama's socialism failed to end the foreclosers, yes? The bank bailouts. Then the banks faced with fiscal loses in having unoccupied homes....decides to bull dose them and end thier use as dwelling. When you have high unemployment and many living in car and on the street.
Eventually how owns the piece of property? The town or city does. To?
To make a small park or doggies walk with. Totally outside of its growth plan.
At least in Russia socialism eventually got people places to live. You might have 10 families on the same floor in the People's Apartment building. But it was dry and warm in the wintertime. There was a big park for play and walks nearby.
But that is not all. The FAA.....Federal Aviation Authority begins to lay off 1000s of air traffic controllers....as the agency 'has run out of money'. Let them sleep more on the job and pay them less.
But Obama's socialism cannot even get the agency funds for making the
payroll.
He can give 6 billion to global warming on a trip to Coopenhaggen.....but he cannot meet the payroll of the FAA? You tell me. I can breath easily today. But if I take a plane ride I might end up in a accident. And they are having accidents related to FAA staffing issues.
If it is not one crisis.....it is another. Even socialism can stop a crisis once in while when it gets lucky. But Obama's socialism is even failing and in crisis.
ttom500: The problem with Obama's socialism is that it is not even very good socialism.
Today large banks in the US bull doze 100s of foreclosed homes. Frist Obama's socialism failed to end the foreclosers, yes? The bank bailouts. Then the banks faced with fiscal loses in having unoccupied homes....decides to bull dose them and end thier use as dwelling. When you have high unemployment and many living in car and on the street.
Eventually how owns the piece of property? The town or city does. To?
To make a small park or doggies walk with. Totally outside of its growth plan.
At least in Russia socialism eventually got people places to live. You might have 10 families on the same floor in the People's Apartment building. But it was dry and warm in the wintertime. There was a big park for play and walks nearby.
But that is not all. The FAA.....Federal Aviation Authority begins to lay off 1000s of air traffic controllers....as the agency 'has run out of money'. Let them sleep more on the job and pay them less.
But Obama's socialism cannot even get the agency funds for making the
payroll.
He can give 6 billion to global warming on a trip to Coopenhaggen.....but he cannot meet the payroll of the FAA? You tell me. I can breath easily today. But if I take a plane ride I might end up in a accident. And they are having accidents related to FAA staffing issues.
If it is not one crisis.....it is another. Even socialism can stop a crisis once in while when it gets lucky. But Obama's socialism is even failing and in crisis.
Good and bad socialism... lucky to stop a crisis? ....is this a revolution in political philosophy?Today large banks in the US bull doze 100s of foreclosed homes. Frist Obama's socialism failed to end the foreclosers, yes? The bank bailouts. Then the banks faced with fiscal loses in having unoccupied homes....decides to bull dose them and end thier use as dwelling. When you have high unemployment and many living in car and on the street.
Eventually how owns the piece of property? The town or city does. To?
To make a small park or doggies walk with. Totally outside of its growth plan.
At least in Russia socialism eventually got people places to live. You might have 10 families on the same floor in the People's Apartment building. But it was dry and warm in the wintertime. There was a big park for play and walks nearby.
But that is not all. The FAA.....Federal Aviation Authority begins to lay off 1000s of air traffic controllers....as the agency 'has run out of money'. Let them sleep more on the job and pay them less.
But Obama's socialism cannot even get the agency funds for making the
payroll.
He can give 6 billion to global warming on a trip to Coopenhaggen.....but he cannot meet the payroll of the FAA? You tell me. I can breath easily today. But if I take a plane ride I might end up in a accident. And they are having accidents related to FAA staffing issues.
If it is not one crisis.....it is another. Even socialism can stop a crisis once in while when it gets lucky. But Obama's socialism is even failing and in crisis.
Being born into,growing up,and living in a Socialist country,he surely has every trademark of it....
AtwoZ: Being born into,growing up,and living in a Socialist country,he surely has every trademark of it....
How many emoticons are we allowed to use?!!!???? Oh, what the hell!!
Antjo39: Good and bad socialism... lucky to stop a crisis? ....is this a revolution in political philosophy?
I am saying that some socialism functions. Take communist Chinese as a example. It functions very well. It is horrible on human rights issues. But you want 1000 shirts made. The Chinese can supply them to you. That is functioning.
Were as what we increasingly see here in the US.....is non functioning
government. From the examples cited earlier. But take the Debt crisis.
A reason we are in a debt crisis is partly do to this non functioning and broken Washington government. Try ordering 1000 shirts from the White House, you will not get them.
Or they will send you pants instead. actually he is a cross between Berzelius Windrip and Krusty The Clown!
Conrad73: actually he is a cross between Berzelius Windrip and Krusty The Clown!
NO.....he's a communist, in socialist clothing...
leigh2154: Unions are all about their bottom line and where the next extravagant vacation labeled "union meeting" will be head!!
I wonder where Jimmy Hoffa is?
outdoorgirlsun: I wonder where Jimmy Hoffa is?
i'm sure he's a permanent fixture in the foundation of some union job somewhere incased in cement...
jlw45: i'm sure he's a permanent fixture in the foundation of some union job somewhere incased in cement...
Oh, I have no doubt, I just think they should tell us. In case we wanted to visit or something.
outdoorgirlsun: Oh, I have no doubt, I just think they should tell us. In case we wanted to visit or something.
and write a little graffitti on the footing ?.. he may be on a remote island somewhere, having mai tais with amelia earhart, bigfoot, and elvis ...
bungallow55: Spain,France,Sweden,Switzerland,to mentioned some countries that have or had socialist goverment...and these governmemts were elected by the people...if you trying to say that Obama is a communist,well,he is not...Socialism and Communismt,are different kind of ideaologies.
outdoorgirlsun: I wonder where Jimmy Hoffa is?
Tub of Lye in a Louisiana Swamp,or under the New Jersey Turnpike!jlw45: he's the one serving the mai tais....
out of his punch bowl scalp.... jlw45: the word fascism comes to mind...make no mistake, socialism is'nt about "spreading the wealth"...it's about control...and alot of the things they try to call socialism today is really communism...people are sheep...so much so, that they wont even try to find the meaning of a word....socialism, by definition is a needed stepping stone to communism...people can share their wealth by themselves and they do...they don't need government to tell them to do so...not in america...
Think about the Obama administration reaction to the Sherry Sherrod story for a moment.
Sheerrod is big Obama supporter. She goes to the NCAAP conference. Speaks and says some very condensing things towards whites. A journalist picks it up and reports it online.
Shirley Sherrod is removed from her job within 15 hours of that story breaking. Even thought the story was largely out of context. It was a assistant to the Department of Agriculture head that did the firing.
The assistant did that directly from the White House. Not the Department of Agri in DC.
So what I am saying?
Saying the Obama administration had the Assistant come to the White House so they would know that the firing had been done and how it had been done. Rob Emanuel or some other high WH staffers was standing in the room with the Assistant as the calls were made.
The decision to fire this woman...was made within the White House by a small group of people. It did not go thru a review process of the Depart of Agri.
Now go back to the definition of Socialism. A small group of people controlling the lives of people. Shirly Sherrod know what socialism is.
Sheerrod is big Obama supporter. She goes to the NCAAP conference. Speaks and says some very condensing things towards whites. A journalist picks it up and reports it online.
Shirley Sherrod is removed from her job within 15 hours of that story breaking. Even thought the story was largely out of context. It was a assistant to the Department of Agriculture head that did the firing.
The assistant did that directly from the White House. Not the Department of Agri in DC.
So what I am saying?
Saying the Obama administration had the Assistant come to the White House so they would know that the firing had been done and how it had been done. Rob Emanuel or some other high WH staffers was standing in the room with the Assistant as the calls were made.
The decision to fire this woman...was made within the White House by a small group of people. It did not go thru a review process of the Depart of Agri.
Now go back to the definition of Socialism. A small group of people controlling the lives of people. Shirly Sherrod know what socialism is.
In response to: Is Obama a socialist?
The only people who really want socialism are those who either don't understand it or those who think they will be in charge.
Obama is just a mercenary puppet.
He does what he's told.
He couldn't care less about the economy as long as he gets the wealth and prestige he craves.
Those pulling his strings, the globalist bankers, want to impose socialism, not upon themselves, but upon everybody else.
You can bet that they won't be redistributing their own wealth. Just ours.
Doez that mean that DC will stand for das kapital?
kermit2007: Doez that mean that DC will stand for das kapital?
at least Kapitalize "Das Kapital"!RayfromUSA: The only people who really want socialism are those who either don't understand it or those who think they will be in charge.
Obama is just a mercenary puppet.
He does what he's told.
He couldn't care less about the economy as long as he gets the wealth and prestige he craves.
Those pulling his strings, the globalist bankers, want to impose socialism, not upon themselves, but upon everybody else.
You can bet that they won't be redistributing their own wealth. Just ours.
He's Soros' Clown!Obama is just a mercenary puppet.
He does what he's told.
He couldn't care less about the economy as long as he gets the wealth and prestige he craves.
Those pulling his strings, the globalist bankers, want to impose socialism, not upon themselves, but upon everybody else.
You can bet that they won't be redistributing their own wealth. Just ours.
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Americans must separate their fear of Russian style communism with socialist policies.
But Communist Russia was the epitimy of Socialism, yes? So when discussing Socialism it is fair to mention Russia in the conversation.
No, Socialism can mean many grey policy areas that eventual fall into the darkness of a Stalin' Russia. A slippery slope........where you have nice and kind socialism at first then a Communist dictatorship at the end.
Today's socialist doesn't want to admit that their heritage began in Russia, with Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky. Who wants to be connected to those placing millions into Siberian Gulags? Who can blame them? Today's liberal and nice socialist would never do that. Till you think of Communist China and its 1000s of political and religious prisoners.
But then Communist China is not socialist either. It is just some sort of modern geo political experiment of a nice small group rule over the majority. That can have a Tiamemmen square massacre, because they were nice and benevolent to some protesters for democracy. But let us not call it socialism. Because all modern socialists have washed their hands of their nasty heritage. We all know that........