kittens1949: Based on a documentary regarding raising the debgt ceiling
Posted: 06/22/11
Is the FBI Investigating Obama?
By Cliff Kincaid
In a front page story about a major FBI terrorism investigation, The Washington Post has reported that the targets include "Chicagoans who crossed paths with Obama when he was a young state senator and some who have been active in labor unions that supported his political rise." The implication is that the trail could lead to the White House.
This is an unusual investigation that does not primarily involve Islamists. Instead, it is focused on elements of the old international communist networks that many people mistakenly thought had faded away with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Those under investigation are suspected of providing support to foreign terrorist organizations such as the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine in the Middle East, a Marxist group. The Post called them "Colombian and Palestinian groups designated by the U.S. government as terrorists."
The investigations came into public view last September when the FBI raided the homes of several "activists," as the Post called them. Some lived in Chicago.
One of the targets, Tom Burke, was a union organizer for the Service Employees International Union (SEIU). He was so confident he would get a fair shake from the Post that he provided the paper with a photo of himself shaking hands with Barack Obama. The other apparent intention was to send a message to the President and Attorney General Eric Holder that any investigation of Burke might lead to Obama.
The Post suggested that investigations of labor union activists might jeopardize their support for Obama's 2012 presidential run. Indeed, it could therefore threaten his re-election bid, if investigations determine that the activists did more than "cross paths" with the President.
Deep inside the article, in the 29th paragraph, we find out that some of the "activists" are associated with a group known as the Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO), a Marxist-Leninist organization. Burke is a member of the FRSO, which the Post admitted was "far left."
Cliff Kincaid is the Director of the AIM Center for Investigative Journalism, and can be contacted at cliff.kincaid@aim.org.
kittens1949: Do you support the notion of applying more taxes to the wealthy to even out the tax burden? Just asking.
It's called wealth distribution and the social benefits of wealth distribution benefit everyone.
And what is wealthy? There is a mis-conceived idea among middle classes that they are wealthy. The middle class in America is been destroyed since the seventies. Fear and mis-truths are pushing these nonsense conservative ideas.
kittens1949: No, just asking the question. Many people are saying that his policies are Socialistic. I just wanted your opinion.
People have the idea also that socialism is a great evil. They say that socialism is what you get in U.S.S.R. When was looking after the vulnerable in society an evil? When was making sure people are not starving is evil? All countries have socialist policies. It doesn't in no way mean that you have a dictatorship and are not free. Socialism can be many things. Not just the fear stories that republicans will tell you it is.
mr1983: It's called wealth distribution and the social benefits of wealth distribution benefit everyone.
And what is wealthy? There is a mis-conceived idea among middle classes that they are wealthy. The middle class in America is been destroyed since the seventies. Fear and mis-truths are pushing these nonsense conservative ideas.
Bring it on ,Dude! Come try "Distribute" my Wealth!
mr1983: Absolute nonsense. People trying to spread fear so Americans will turn on Obama. It is the same sort of fear which the republicans filled America with that got bush re-elected. The Americans fell for it then and will fall for it again.
Communism is dead. Why is this coming back up again? The danger now is from the right. How can't people see this?
mr1983: It's called wealth distribution and the social benefits of wealth distribution benefit everyone.
And what is wealthy? There is a mis-conceived idea among middle classes that they are wealthy. The middle class in America is been destroyed since the seventies. Fear and mis-truths are pushing these nonsense conservative ideas.
So what do you do when you have spent everyone else's money??? Print more??? Big government does not create jobs. Spending more money than you earn only borrows from your children's future.
mr1983: People have the idea also that socialism is a great evil. They say that socialism is what you get in U.S.S.R. When was looking after the vulnerable in society an evil? When was making sure people are not starving is evil? All countries have socialist policies. It doesn't in no way mean that you have a dictatorship and are not free. Socialism can be many things. Not just the fear stories that republicans will tell you it is.
But at the end of Russia, people were starving. The bread shelves were barren. They had lines and que for basics of life.The economic models of Communism had fallen and failed. How bad was the collapse of the Russian economic system? I will tell you.
I visited a Baltic sea country only 2 years after the breakup of Russia.
We are driving by a bakery. All the delivery trucks had their tires removed and battery taken out by the Russia troops that were headed back to Russia. I asked my host, why? She says the Russia troop said they did not have tires and battery back in Russia and it was to punish the locals.
Russia self imploded not because it was a 'good society'. Russia self imploded because it had made a society were a few benefited over the many. Were ever it went in the world, it oppressed and punished the people there.
kittens1949: Do you support the notion of applying more taxes to the wealthy to even out the tax burden? Just asking.
I think it is the only thing that can be done... Most wealthy people.... the reall wealthy people - can only earn - what they have done, because of someone who never came near.... their status...
But it has nothing to do with socialism.... Only humanity...
There's no sighn - that you President - is a socialist .... and he would never have been elected, if he was.....
He had some good idears.... and tried to have succes, doing them.. that's all !!!
Cowhand: I think it is the only thing that can be done... Most wealthy people.... the reall wealthy people - can only earn - what they have done, because of someone who never came near.... their status...
But it has nothing to do with socialism.... Only humanity...There's no sighn - that you President - is a socialist .... and he would never have been elected, if he was.....
He had some good idears.... and tried to have succes, doing them.. that's all !!!
till next turn wash.moves slow/deals&money.turn/term.
Cowhand: I think it is the only thing that can be done... Most wealthy people.... the reall wealthy people - can only earn - what they have done, because of someone who never came near.... their status...
But it has nothing to do with socialism.... Only humanity...There's no sighn - that you President - is a socialist .... and he would never have been elected, if he was.....
He had some good idears.... and tried to have succes, doing them.. that's all !!!
so by your standard,a Guy like Bill Gates and others are Thieves then?
kittens1949: So what do you do when you have spent everyone else's money??? Print more??? Big government does not create jobs. Spending more money than you earn only borrows from your children's future.
Who said anything about "big" government? Do you know that one of the biggest causes of American debt by 2018 will be the "bush tax cuts"? These cuts are massively in favour of the rich.
So to put your sentence another way. You are forgoing revenue to satisfy the super wealthy thereby tying a large debt burden on your children.
ttom500: But at the end of Russia, people were starving. The bread shelves were barren. They had lines and que for basics of life.The economic models of Communism had fallen and failed. How bad was the collapse of the Russian economic system? I will tell you.
I visited a Baltic sea country only 2 years after the breakup of Russia.
We are driving by a bakery. All the delivery trucks had their tires removed and battery taken out by the Russia troops that were headed back to Russia. I asked my host, why? She says the Russia troop said they did not have tires and battery back in Russia and it was to punish the locals.
Russia self imploded not because it was a 'good society'. Russia self imploded because it had made a society were a few benefited over the many. Were ever it went in the world, it oppressed and punished the people there.
You are missing my point. Socialism doesn't necessarily mean communist Russia. Bush's policy of No Child Left Behind is a socialist policy but nobody is suggesting that Bush is Stalin.
Americans must separate their fear of Russian style communism with socialist policies.
mr1983: Who said anything about "big" government? Do you know that one of the biggest causes of American debt by 2018 will be the "bush tax cuts"? These cuts are massively in favour of the rich.
So to put your sentence another way. You are forgoing revenue to satisfy the super wealthy thereby tying a large debt burden on your children.
There's a side of me that says repeal the Bush tax cuts 100%
Of course lower and middle class will take a proportional hit...but hey, if one part of the tax cuts were bad, then all of them were.
All of you people who want to argue Socialism are about eighty years too late . All this " creeping socalism " went down in the thirtys with Roosevelt . Apperently his socialism not only saved the country from economic colaps ( look at the Soviet Union ) he also was the guiding figure in World War Two. I think we did pretty good in the decades that followed . I'll take his Socialism over todays crap anytime .
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