DOES THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT HAVE THE RIGHT TO REOPEN NUCLEAR PLANTS LOCATED IN SISMIC OR TSUNAMI RI (134)
SISMIC OR TSUNAMI RISK?, NOT RI
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even if they have the right do they want to?
perhaps this is not necessarily the situation?
perhaps this is not necessarily the situation?
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GUZMAN1: I don't know how far can arrive a radioactive cloud...
now I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.....but I personally would not build an atomic power plant on an earth quake fault line, well alone three of them ...I mean,it's not exactly the smartest thing mankind has done------ This poll is Archived ------
ooby_dooby: I can't believe 8 people actually voted yes! This is not a political question. It is a question more along the lines of, does one country, one state, or even one person have the right to engage in activities which has the risk of killing or sickening millions of people far away from their borders.
Sure. I was tempted to include a third option: the japanese who disagree with their government or do not vote. But you said it better, when a government authorizes to build a nuclear plant (as an example) doesn't imposse too many limits, and after disasters expresses surprise. And usually these matters are not included in electoral campaigns and even not in Parliament debates.
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grizzwald: now I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.....but I personally would not build an atomic power plant on an earth quake fault line, well alone three of them ...I mean,it's not exactly the smartest thing mankind has done
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grizzwald: now I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.....but I personally would not build an atomic power plant on an earth quake fault line, well alone three of them ...I mean,it's not exactly the smartest thing mankind has done
building nuclear powerplants at all is a pretty stupid idea when there are many better and safer ways to get power, when they realized that if we have cars we will have accidents and made insurance compulsory to cope with it, they should also have realized that it is the same with all things, if we have nuclear facilities we will have accidents, it is not only our future that is in jeopardy but the future of all our offspring, we do not have the right to ruin the earth for them and make millions of them ill and die before their time.
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SUNSHINEB0Y: building nuclear powerplants at all is a pretty stupid idea when there are many better and safer ways to get power, when they realized that if we have cars we will have accidents and made insurance compulsory to cope with it, they should also have realized that it is the same with all things, if we have nuclear facilities we will have accidents, it is not only our future that is in jeopardy but the future of all our offspring, we do not have the right to ruin the earth for them and make millions of them ill and die before their time.
I don't know, people wants electricity and there are no methods for producing smokeless, safe and without spending more money than you can spend ... but at least there is no such risk.
If you had a gun whose barrel had a million holes and one bullet ¿would play Russian roulette once just to get a cheaper electricity bill?
The Japanese are playing but no one knows to where and I think his gun has far fewer holes barrel. There are earthquakes every day.
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GUZMAN1: DOES THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT HAVE THE RIGHT TO REOPEN NUCLEAR PLANTS LOCATED IN SISMIC OR TSUNAMI RI
Hmmmmm. Seems like you're calling for some sort of World Government to tell sovereign nations what they can or can't do in their own territory.
But why just pick on Japan?
Don't forget that Britain's nuclear reactors have been leaking and dumping radiation into the environment for decades.
Shouldn't we shut them down too.
And what about all the radiation that nuclear powers have sent into the atmosphere with all their nuclear weapons, ships, and testing.
Including the very dirty mini-nukes used on civilian cities in Iraq.
Try and tell me this wasn't a nuke.
Maybe your new global dictatorship could go in and clean out all the world's nuclear powers' arsenals as well.
For the good of the planet of course.
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RayfromUSA: Hmmmmm. Seems like you're calling for some sort of World Government to tell sovereign nations what they can or can't do in their own territory.
But why just pick on Japan?
Don't forget that Britain's nuclear reactors have been leaking and dumping radiation into the environment for decades.
Shouldn't we shut them down too.
And what about all the radiation that nuclear powers have sent into the atmosphere with all their nuclear weapons, ships, and testing.
But why just pick on Japan?
Don't forget that Britain's nuclear reactors have been leaking and dumping radiation into the environment for decades.
Shouldn't we shut them down too.
And what about all the radiation that nuclear powers have sent into the atmosphere with all their nuclear weapons, ships, and testing.
His own territory? Think about your territory too.
Why Japan? It's true, I should talk about California too, there are sismic activity.
Testing or not, no difference.
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SUNSHINEB0Y: building nuclear powerplants at all is a pretty stupid idea when there are many better and safer ways to get power, when they realized that if we have cars we will have accidents and made insurance compulsory to cope with it, they should also have realized that it is the same with all things, if we have nuclear facilities we will have accidents, it is not only our future that is in jeopardy but the future of all our offspring, we do not have the right to ruin the earth for them and make millions of them ill and die before their time.
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Trealach01: In the highlighted part, I presume you're also denying the US government's right to have Nuclear Weapons and Nuclear plants? The Japanese Prime Minister has already said that the government intends closing the nuclear plants and using alternative and safer energy methods. Perhaps the US could LEARN a lesson from them. Japan is an independent Sovereign State with every right to make its own decisions, and without interference from foreign jurisdictions.
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GUZMAN1: I don't know, people wants electricity and there are no methods for producing smokeless, safe and without spending more money than you can spend ... but at least there is no such risk.
If you had a gun whose barrel had a million holes and one bullet ¿would play Russian roulette once just to get a cheaper electricity bill?
If you had a gun whose barrel had a million holes and one bullet ¿would play Russian roulette once just to get a cheaper electricity bill?
I hear you, if it was your child would you let him/her play russian roulette?
The Japanese are playing but no one knows to where and I think his gun has far fewer holes barrel. There are earthquakes every day.
Japan is an island, it has waves all round it to take power from if it wanted to, it has wind coming off the ocean most of the time and it has a reasonable amount of sunshine for solar energy, if half the money that was spent on nuclear power was spent in other directions there would be no need for the risk.
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SUNSHINEB0Y: I hear you, if it was your child would you let him/her play russian roulette?
The Japanese are playing but no one knows to where and I think his gun has far fewer holes barrel. There are earthquakes every day.
Japan is an island, it has waves all round it to take power from if it wanted to, it has wind coming off the ocean most of the time and it has a reasonable amount of sunshine for solar energy, if half the money that was spent on nuclear power was spent in other directions there would be no need for the risk.
The Japanese are playing but no one knows to where and I think his gun has far fewer holes barrel. There are earthquakes every day.
Japan is an island, it has waves all round it to take power from if it wanted to, it has wind coming off the ocean most of the time and it has a reasonable amount of sunshine for solar energy, if half the money that was spent on nuclear power was spent in other directions there would be no need for the risk.
I thought the example OF THE HEADS OF THE SON OR DAUGHTER When I wrote my post, but it sounds overly dramatic.
I think Japan is the first country in the world with intelligence and technical ability to exploit these energy sources, and now they know they also have the need to develop alternatives.
If their politicians or their companies do not, THAT TALK THE EMPEROR!!
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GUZMAN1: I thought the example OF THE HEADS OF THE SON OR DAUGHTER When I wrote my post, but it sounds overly dramatic.
I think Japan is the first country in the world with intelligence and technical ability to exploit these energy sources, and now they know they also have the need to develop alternatives.
If their politicians or their companies do not, THAT TALK THE EMPEROR!!
I think Japan is the first country in the world with intelligence and technical ability to exploit these energy sources, and now they know they also have the need to develop alternatives.
If their politicians or their companies do not, THAT TALK THE EMPEROR!!
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Japan and California are the worst places to build Nuclear Plants. They are both Earthquake zones. Japan is breaking up into islands again as it did a millennium ago and California sits on the San Andreas Fault.
Japan 2011 Earthquake 2 - Science & History - BBC News America
San Andreas Fault (Discovery Channel) - YouTube
Japan 2011 Earthquake 2 - Science & History - BBC News America
San Andreas Fault (Discovery Channel) - YouTube
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Why some countries think that they have all the rights to build nuclear plants and ask other countries not to..? the US, for instant, has more than 100 nuclear plants because the US gov't considers that the nuke is good.. still against the development of the nuke in other countries because the US says it's bad..! 
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GUZMAN1: I don't know how far can arrive a radioactive cloud...
I have read they consider fininshing with nuclear power... But it will be very difficult to them.
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Margo19991: I have read they consider fininshing with nuclear power... But it will be very difficult to them.
I think the world should finish with nuclear power.....and if it decided to it would take a very long time to shut down the reactors we have and thousands of years to get rid of the contamination we have already created
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would have never happened with the New Generation Nuclear Plants!
(http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~blc/book/chapter10.html)
(http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~blc/book/chapter10.html)
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Conrad73: would have never happened with the New Generation Nuclear Plants!
(http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~blc/book/chapter10.html)
(http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~blc/book/chapter10.html)
Some jerk was bound to come up with a statement like that
The fact is that there is no such thing as infallible, there are always some circumstances, no matter how unimaginable at the moment, that would allow things to go wrong and it's only after the event that peeps will say "yes well we never meant it to withstand that kind of thing"
Anithing that can make large areas of our planet uninhabitable for long periods or kill peeps or make them ill is just too dangerous to mess with, especially when we have alternatives.
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SUNSHINEB0Y: Some jerk was bound to come up with a statement like that
The fact is that there is no such thing as infallible, there are always some circumstances, no matter how unimaginable at the moment, that would allow things to go wrong and it's only after the event that peeps will say "yes well we never meant it to withstand that kind of thing"
Anything that can make large areas of our planet uninhabitable for long periods or kill peeps or make them ill is just too dangerous to mess with, especially when we have alternatives.
The fact is that there is no such thing as infallible, there are always some circumstances, no matter how unimaginable at the moment, that would allow things to go wrong and it's only after the event that peeps will say "yes well we never meant it to withstand that kind of thing"
Anything that can make large areas of our planet uninhabitable for long periods or kill peeps or make them ill is just too dangerous to mess with, especially when we have alternatives.
I'd go further than that, in fact, I'd say that it is an infringement of our civil rights for these companys to build these things for profit at the cost of our environment. We have a right to swim and fish in the irish sea......but a lot of us no longer want to because it is the most radioactive stretch of water in the world. Thank you to the nuclear industry
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SUNSHINEB0Y: Some jerk was bound to come up with a statement like that
The fact is that there is no such thing as infallible, there are always some circumstances, no matter how unimaginable at the moment, that would allow things to go wrong and it's only after the event that peeps will say "yes well we never meant it to withstand that kind of thing"
Anithing that can make large areas of our planet uninhabitable for long periods or kill peeps or make them ill is just too dangerous to mess with, especially when we have alternatives.
well,it is up to you to call some of the best Minds of the Planet,Jerks!The fact is that there is no such thing as infallible, there are always some circumstances, no matter how unimaginable at the moment, that would allow things to go wrong and it's only after the event that peeps will say "yes well we never meant it to withstand that kind of thing"
Anithing that can make large areas of our planet uninhabitable for long periods or kill peeps or make them ill is just too dangerous to mess with, especially when we have alternatives.
Doesn't invalidate their designs,but says something about your Knowledge!
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SUNSHINEB0Y: Some jerk was bound to come up with a statement like that
The fact is that there is no such thing as infallible, there are always some circumstances, no matter how unimaginable at the moment, that would allow things to go wrong and it's only after the event that peeps will say "yes well we never meant it to withstand that kind of thing"
Anithing that can make large areas of our planet uninhabitable for long periods or kill peeps or make them ill is just too dangerous to mess with, especially when we have alternatives.
The fact is that there is no such thing as infallible, there are always some circumstances, no matter how unimaginable at the moment, that would allow things to go wrong and it's only after the event that peeps will say "yes well we never meant it to withstand that kind of thing"
Anithing that can make large areas of our planet uninhabitable for long periods or kill peeps or make them ill is just too dangerous to mess with, especially when we have alternatives.
Bet you haven't looked at the Designs!Alternative Energy!
Like the Pollution of China through SolarCell Production,along wide stretches of the Country!?
Bet you just love Lead-Acid Batteries,or those relying on the newfangled designs with rare Earth Elements which are also very poisonous!
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Conrad73: Bet you haven't looked at the Designs!
Alternative Energy!
Like the Pollution of China through SolarCell Production,along wide stretches of the Country!?
Bet you just love Lead-Acid Batteries,or those relying on the newfangled designs with rare Earth Elements which are also very poisonous!
Alternative Energy!
Like the Pollution of China through SolarCell Production,along wide stretches of the Country!?
Bet you just love Lead-Acid Batteries,or those relying on the newfangled designs with rare Earth Elements which are also very poisonous!
"the best minds on the planet" are never as clever as to be "all knowing" despite what they sometimes think, and sometimes a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
actually I was thinking of an Island in the shetlands where they have a "worm" producing electricity from the movements of the waves this is then partially used (through the process of electrolosis) to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, the hydrogen is then used to run vehicles
this is not a theory it is actually in use today and apparentlythe maintainance is very minimal.
there are nuclear powerstations that were started over thirty years ago that are still not working yet, and even if they build new ones it doesn't mean they will get rid of the old ones.
Japan is surrounded by water and could be producing a lot of leccy from it, we don't need to be putting our future generations in jeopardy, "the best minds on the planet" could surely do better if it were made financially beneficial.
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SUNSHINEB0Y: "the best minds on the planet" are never as clever as to be "all knowing" despite what they sometimes think, and sometimes a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
actually I was thinking of an Island in the shetlands where they have a "worm" producing electricity from the movements of the waves this is then partially used (through the process of electrolosis) to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, the hydrogen is then used to run vehicles
this is not a theory it is actually in use today and apparentlythe maintainance is very minimal.
there are nuclear powerstations that were started over thirty years ago that are still not working yet, and even if they build new ones it doesn't mean they will get rid of the old ones.
Japan is surrounded by water and could be producing a lot of leccy from it, we don't need to be putting our future generations in jeopardy, "the best minds on the planet" could surely do better if it were made financially beneficial.
I am familiar with those alternative Ways to produce Energy!actually I was thinking of an Island in the shetlands where they have a "worm" producing electricity from the movements of the waves this is then partially used (through the process of electrolosis) to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, the hydrogen is then used to run vehicles
this is not a theory it is actually in use today and apparentlythe maintainance is very minimal.
there are nuclear powerstations that were started over thirty years ago that are still not working yet, and even if they build new ones it doesn't mean they will get rid of the old ones.
Japan is surrounded by water and could be producing a lot of leccy from it, we don't need to be putting our future generations in jeopardy, "the best minds on the planet" could surely do better if it were made financially beneficial.
Good luck in replacing all the Powerplants,Nuclear and other with that kind of stuff!
I am also quite familiar with Conversion of a Vehicle to Gas,any Gas!
Be kind of problematic with today's Fuel-Injected Engines!
Will take a lot of Conversion!
BTW,ever seen a Hydrogen-Explosion?
Quite spectacular,actually!
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Conrad73: I am familiar with those alternative Ways to produce Energy!
Good luck in replacing all the Powerplants,Nuclear and other with that kind of stuff!
I am also quite familiar with Conversion of a Vehicle to Gas,any Gas!
Be kind of problematic with today's Fuel-Injected Engines!
Will take a lot of Conversion!
BTW,ever seen a Hydrogen-Explosion?
Quite spectacular,actually!
Good luck in replacing all the Powerplants,Nuclear and other with that kind of stuff!
I am also quite familiar with Conversion of a Vehicle to Gas,any Gas!
Be kind of problematic with today's Fuel-Injected Engines!
Will take a lot of Conversion!
BTW,ever seen a Hydrogen-Explosion?
Quite spectacular,actually!
only the surplus electricity is used to get the hydrogen for propulsion and I don't remember moses having a stone tablet saying that everybody had to have a fuel injected engine in their car.
yes I have seen footage of a hydrogen explosion such as destroyed the airship Hindenburg and I don't recall any data on nuclear fallout being produced, in fact any contamination from it would be impossible to find now which just proves my point "quite spectacularly actually!"
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SUNSHINEB0Y:
this is not a theory it is actually in use today and apparentlythe maintainance is very minimal.
this is not a theory it is actually in use today and apparentlythe maintainance is very minimal.
As compared to what?
SUNSHINEB0Y: Japan is surrounded by water and could be producing a lot of leccy from it,
I see. The Japanese are morons compared to you and your all seeing intellect right?
SUNSHINEB0Y: we don't need to be putting our future generations in jeopardy, "the best minds on the planet" could surely do better if it were made financially beneficial.
Yes. Finding and producing the single most viable energy source in history and powering the entire world with it is not worth a dime.
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SUNSHINEB0Y: only the surplus electricity is used to get the hydrogen for propulsion and I don't remember moses having a stone tablet saying that everybody had to have a fuel injected engine in their car.
yes I have seen footage of a hydrogen explosion such as destroyed the airship Hindenburg and I don't recall any data on nuclear fallout being produced, in fact any contamination from it would be impossible to find now which just proves my point "quite spectacularly actually!"
I can see you haven't looked at one Letter of the Links I posted!yes I have seen footage of a hydrogen explosion such as destroyed the airship Hindenburg and I don't recall any data on nuclear fallout being produced, in fact any contamination from it would be impossible to find now which just proves my point "quite spectacularly actually!"
Show me how many Engines today aren't Fuelinjected!
Me thinks you haven't much of an Idea of the new Reactor-Designs,and most of the People Protests here are Kneejerk!
But you will see them built!
You can take that promise to the Bank!
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Conrad73: I can see you haven't looked at one Letter of the Links I posted!
Show me how many Engines today aren't Fuelinjected!
Me thinks you haven't much of an Idea of the new Reactor-Designs,and most of the People Protests here are Kneejerk!
But you will see them built!
You can take that promise to the Bank!
Show me how many Engines today aren't Fuelinjected!
Me thinks you haven't much of an Idea of the new Reactor-Designs,and most of the People Protests here are Kneejerk!
But you will see them built!
You can take that promise to the Bank!
you are right I didn't bother to look at the links, I don't see the point, I never claimed to be a nuclear physisist and I have no interest in it.
if I do live long enough to see them built I won't be happy about it but I think if they are built sooner or later there will be an "accident" at one, I wish I could also say that it would only be the advocates of them that would be hurt but it but alas radiation is indiscriminate, just as it is not only the drivers of cars that get hurt by them, there is no knowing how many of the people like my wife that died of cancer was a result of radiation leaks at chernobyl or sellafield or trowsfinnyd and there will be no knowing how many peeps have and will be victims of the japan disaster radiation.
I don't claim to be one of them or anywhere near as smart as them but the "best minds on the planet" dont realize or act upon the knowledge that nuclear facilities are more about plutonium for bombs than they are about producing electricity, certainly the ones in the uk have never been financially viable for electricity generation, we have plants that are well past their life expectancy that have never broken even and are certainly not viable (cost wise) to shut down.
It doesn't take a genius to work out that the "best minds on the planet" have to do as they are told by the peeps that pay their wages.
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Albertaghost: As compared to what?
I see. The Japanese are morons compared to you and your all seeing intellect right?
Yes. Finding and producing the single most viable energy source in history and powering the entire world with it is not worth a dime.
I see. The Japanese are morons compared to you and your all seeing intellect right?
Yes. Finding and producing the single most viable energy source in history and powering the entire world with it is not worth a dime.
1. as compared to a nuclear powerplant
2.I don't recall calling anybody, let alone a nation, morons and I certainly didn't claim to be all seeing.
3. If powering the world is worth so much, then it should be worth the investment to do it in a manner that will not risk ruining the world for generations to come, despite the assertions of some, there is no "risk free" nuclear anything because the stuff kills, it depends on containment and there can be no "infallible" containment, even the best designed nuclear facilities were given upgraded security after 9.11. when suddenly the terrorist threat showed that an airstrike to them could have been a possibility and what if they had stricken a nuclear plant instead of an inert building in the city?....there is still time.......do the new designes allow for that?
"most viable" is a subjective concept that depends on the criteria applied.
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