Palestine and Isreal ............ (72)
Conrad73: You need to check how the name is spelled,JV!
Haha, it's more 'real' than Palestine was, is or will be!!!
Wow_Factor: Haha, it's more 'real' than Palestine was, is or will be!!!
Conrad73: Sixth Fleet will be glad losing their Docking-and Warehouse Space!
You getting away cheap!
You getting away cheap!
Yea, ONLY about 3 TRILLION dollars ...
BebeII: You're right, it is international, but if there were a specific page for Americans to talk politics, we would surely use it.
Morning!!Conrad73: You need to check how the name is spelled,JV!
Just wanted to see if anyone paying attention Conrad .....
jvaski: WHO Really gives a CRAP about Palestine and Isreal ?
Can we just put this amnnoying issue to Bed onec and FOR ALL ???
Can we just put this amnnoying issue to Bed onec and FOR ALL ???
Conrad73: Well,I suppose you were ignorant about the Real Christopher Bollyn!
The Guy is a damn 9/11-Truther!---- IMAGE REMOVED because photobucket.com no longer allows embedded images ----
Wow_Factor: Cool link Conrad! I like to have a laugh at the weekend!
Gonna send you an even better Laugh!Seems,hopefully,JV hasn't got a Clue who and What that Guy is!
Conrad73: Gonna send you an even better Laugh!
Seems,hopefully,JV hasn't got a Clue who and What that Guy is!
TaDaaaa!Seems,hopefully,JV hasn't got a Clue who and What that Guy is!
Conrad73: The Guy is a damn 9/11-Truther!
I guess you can’t argue with evidence like that.
mustbnutz: I guess you can’t argue with evidence like that.
David Icke doesn't want anything to do with him!
jvaski: WHO Really gives a CRAP about Palestine and Isreal ?
Can we just put this amnnoying issue to Bed onec and FOR ALL ???
Can we just put this amnnoying issue to Bed onec and FOR ALL ???
I learned a trick about how to avoid discussing issues I'm tired of.
When I see a thread about such issues, I don't open it.
And especially, I don't create a thread about issues I don't care to discuss.
You should try it.
RayfromUSA: Oh and by the way it's "once", not "onec".
The rule is "c bore e except after i", (or something like that).
RayfromUSA: I learned a trick about how to avoid discussing issues I'm tired of.
When I see a thread about such issues, I don't open it.
And especially, I don't create a thread about issues I don't care to discuss.
You should try it.
When I see a thread about such issues, I don't open it.
And especially, I don't create a thread about issues I don't care to discuss.
You should try it.
Awww Ray, that means we won't have your infinite wisdom on the Israel threads anymore. Well ok, then, au revoir, adios etc., have a good life and sing along to this on your way out
Wow_Factor: Awww Ray, that means we won't have your infinite wisdom on the Israel threads anymore. Well ok, then, au revoir, adios etc., have a good life and sing along to this on your way out
To paraphrase John Wayne:"That Will Be The Day"!Conrad73: To paraphrase John Wayne:"That Will Be The Day"!
Also to paraphrase John Wayne, "Get off your horse and drink your milk (and honey)."
(Well I think it was him, wasn't it)?
Wow_Factor: Also to paraphrase John Wayne, "Get off your horse and drink your milk (and honey)." (Well I think it was him, wasn't it)?
they say it might have been one of his Impersonators in a Commercial!
Conrad73: they say it might have been one of his Impersonators in a Commercial!
Cool, thanks!!!
But not as cool as that Midnight Cowboy Jon Voight as far as Israel is concerned. A true friend.
Hamas Against PA Statehood Bid: It’s a Tactic Step
Hamas condemns Abbas' confirmation of the PA's statehood bid, says it is a tactic aimed at resuming negotiations with Israel.
By Elad Benari, Canada
First Publish: 9/17/2011, 12:41 AM
The Hamas terror group, which rules the Gaza Strip, was quick to condemn on Friday the speech by PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas in which he confirmed that he intends to turn to the United Nations and ask for recognition of a Palestinian state.
In a statement it released on Friday and which was quoted by Israel’s Channel 2 News, Hamas said Abbas’ statehood plan is “full of doubts.”
“We are against any step that will be giving up any inch of the land of Palestine or the rights of the Palestinians, including the right of return,” the organization’s statement said.
The ‘right of return’ refers to the Arab leaders demand that as part of a future peace agreement Israel allow millions of Arabs descended from those who fled during the 1948 War of Independence to “return” to the cities in which their grandparents and great-grandparents once lived.
The China-based Xinhua news agency quoted an e-mailed statement by Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum, who said that Abbas’ intention to go to the UN “is a tactic step aimed at modifying the way of getting back to the negotiation table with the Israeli occupation.”
Barhoum added, “Hamas movement will not give Abbas or the PLO any legal cover or permission to apply to the UN for full membership, because we believe that his act of heading to the UN is a preparation for resuming the negotiations with Israel.”
Barhoum ended by saying: “Hamas will never recognize Israel.”
Hamas was not the only one to criticize Abbas’ speech: Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu also attacked Abbas’ remarks and called him back to the negotiating table immediately.
“Peace cannot be achieved by going to the UN unilaterally and not by joining the terrorist organization Hamas,” Netanyahu said in a statement. “Peace will only be achieved through direct negotiations with Israel.”
Netanyahu said that “The Palestinian Authority and its leader consistently avoid direct talks with Israel. When the PA abandons its futile moves such as unilaterally going to the UN, it will find in Israel a partner for direct negotiations for peace.”
Earlier, Abbas made a speech in Ramallah in which he said, “We are going to the United Nations to request our legitimate right, obtaining full membership for Palestine in this organization.”
Abbas urged PA Arabs to refrain from violence, saying “anything other than peaceful moves will harm us and sabotage our endeavors.”
(Arutz Sheva’s North American Desk is keeping you updated until the start of Shabbat in New York. The time posted automatically on all Arutz Sheva articles, however, is Israeli time.)
Hamas condemns Abbas' confirmation of the PA's statehood bid, says it is a tactic aimed at resuming negotiations with Israel.
By Elad Benari, Canada
First Publish: 9/17/2011, 12:41 AM
The Hamas terror group, which rules the Gaza Strip, was quick to condemn on Friday the speech by PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas in which he confirmed that he intends to turn to the United Nations and ask for recognition of a Palestinian state.
In a statement it released on Friday and which was quoted by Israel’s Channel 2 News, Hamas said Abbas’ statehood plan is “full of doubts.”
“We are against any step that will be giving up any inch of the land of Palestine or the rights of the Palestinians, including the right of return,” the organization’s statement said.
The ‘right of return’ refers to the Arab leaders demand that as part of a future peace agreement Israel allow millions of Arabs descended from those who fled during the 1948 War of Independence to “return” to the cities in which their grandparents and great-grandparents once lived.
The China-based Xinhua news agency quoted an e-mailed statement by Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum, who said that Abbas’ intention to go to the UN “is a tactic step aimed at modifying the way of getting back to the negotiation table with the Israeli occupation.”
Barhoum added, “Hamas movement will not give Abbas or the PLO any legal cover or permission to apply to the UN for full membership, because we believe that his act of heading to the UN is a preparation for resuming the negotiations with Israel.”
Barhoum ended by saying: “Hamas will never recognize Israel.”
Hamas was not the only one to criticize Abbas’ speech: Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu also attacked Abbas’ remarks and called him back to the negotiating table immediately.
“Peace cannot be achieved by going to the UN unilaterally and not by joining the terrorist organization Hamas,” Netanyahu said in a statement. “Peace will only be achieved through direct negotiations with Israel.”
Netanyahu said that “The Palestinian Authority and its leader consistently avoid direct talks with Israel. When the PA abandons its futile moves such as unilaterally going to the UN, it will find in Israel a partner for direct negotiations for peace.”
Earlier, Abbas made a speech in Ramallah in which he said, “We are going to the United Nations to request our legitimate right, obtaining full membership for Palestine in this organization.”
Abbas urged PA Arabs to refrain from violence, saying “anything other than peaceful moves will harm us and sabotage our endeavors.”
(Arutz Sheva’s North American Desk is keeping you updated until the start of Shabbat in New York. The time posted automatically on all Arutz Sheva articles, however, is Israeli time.)
Wow_Factor: Hamas Against PA Statehood Bid: It’s a Tactic Step
Hamas condemns Abbas' confirmation of the PA's statehood bid, says it is a tactic aimed at resuming negotiations with Israel.
By Elad Benari, Canada
First Publish: 9/17/2011, 12:41 AM
The Hamas terror group, which rules the Gaza Strip, was quick to condemn on Friday the speech by PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas in which he confirmed that he intends to turn to the United Nations and ask for recognition of a Palestinian state.
In a statement it released on Friday and which was quoted by Israel’s Channel 2 News, Hamas said Abbas’ statehood plan is “full of doubts.”
“We are against any step that will be giving up any inch of the land of Palestine or the rights of the Palestinians, including the right of return,” the organization’s statement said.
The ‘right of return’ refers to the Arab leaders demand that as part of a future peace agreement Israel allow millions of Arabs descended from those who fled during the 1948 War of Independence to “return” to the cities in which their grandparents and great-grandparents once lived.
The China-based Xinhua news agency quoted an e-mailed statement by Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum, who said that Abbas’ intention to go to the UN “is a tactic step aimed at modifying the way of getting back to the negotiation table with the Israeli occupation.”
Barhoum added, “Hamas movement will not give Abbas or the PLO any legal cover or permission to apply to the UN for full membership, because we believe that his act of heading to the UN is a preparation for resuming the negotiations with Israel.”
Barhoum ended by saying: “Hamas will never recognize Israel.”
Hamas was not the only one to criticize Abbas’ speech: Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu also attacked Abbas’ remarks and called him back to the negotiating table immediately.
“Peace cannot be achieved by going to the UN unilaterally and not by joining the terrorist organization Hamas,” Netanyahu said in a statement. “Peace will only be achieved through direct negotiations with Israel.”
Netanyahu said that “The Palestinian Authority and its leader consistently avoid direct talks with Israel. When the PA abandons its futile moves such as unilaterally going to the UN, it will find in Israel a partner for direct negotiations for peace.”
Earlier, Abbas made a speech in Ramallah in which he said, “We are going to the United Nations to request our legitimate right, obtaining full membership for Palestine in this organization.”
Abbas urged PA Arabs to refrain from violence, saying “anything other than peaceful moves will harm us and sabotage our endeavors.”
(Arutz Sheva’s North American Desk is keeping you updated until the start of Shabbat in New York. The time posted automatically on all Arutz Sheva articles, however, is Israeli time.)
Hamas condemns Abbas' confirmation of the PA's statehood bid, says it is a tactic aimed at resuming negotiations with Israel.
By Elad Benari, Canada
First Publish: 9/17/2011, 12:41 AM
The Hamas terror group, which rules the Gaza Strip, was quick to condemn on Friday the speech by PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas in which he confirmed that he intends to turn to the United Nations and ask for recognition of a Palestinian state.
In a statement it released on Friday and which was quoted by Israel’s Channel 2 News, Hamas said Abbas’ statehood plan is “full of doubts.”
“We are against any step that will be giving up any inch of the land of Palestine or the rights of the Palestinians, including the right of return,” the organization’s statement said.
The ‘right of return’ refers to the Arab leaders demand that as part of a future peace agreement Israel allow millions of Arabs descended from those who fled during the 1948 War of Independence to “return” to the cities in which their grandparents and great-grandparents once lived.
The China-based Xinhua news agency quoted an e-mailed statement by Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum, who said that Abbas’ intention to go to the UN “is a tactic step aimed at modifying the way of getting back to the negotiation table with the Israeli occupation.”
Barhoum added, “Hamas movement will not give Abbas or the PLO any legal cover or permission to apply to the UN for full membership, because we believe that his act of heading to the UN is a preparation for resuming the negotiations with Israel.”
Barhoum ended by saying: “Hamas will never recognize Israel.”
Hamas was not the only one to criticize Abbas’ speech: Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu also attacked Abbas’ remarks and called him back to the negotiating table immediately.
“Peace cannot be achieved by going to the UN unilaterally and not by joining the terrorist organization Hamas,” Netanyahu said in a statement. “Peace will only be achieved through direct negotiations with Israel.”
Netanyahu said that “The Palestinian Authority and its leader consistently avoid direct talks with Israel. When the PA abandons its futile moves such as unilaterally going to the UN, it will find in Israel a partner for direct negotiations for peace.”
Earlier, Abbas made a speech in Ramallah in which he said, “We are going to the United Nations to request our legitimate right, obtaining full membership for Palestine in this organization.”
Abbas urged PA Arabs to refrain from violence, saying “anything other than peaceful moves will harm us and sabotage our endeavors.”
(Arutz Sheva’s North American Desk is keeping you updated until the start of Shabbat in New York. The time posted automatically on all Arutz Sheva articles, however, is Israeli time.)
Decades of "Yammering" about the same old crap ....who really cares at this point ?
jvaski: Decades of "Yammering" about the same old crap ....who really cares at this point ?
I care!
Hamas, Islamic Jihad Unite against Abbas
PA unity is further away then ever as the Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorist groups unite to denounce Abbas for his “unilateral moves.”
By Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
First Publish: 9/18/2011, 8:43 AM
Palestinian Authority unity is further away then ever as the Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorist groups unite to denounce PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas for his “unilateral moves.”
Statements by the two terrorist groups highlight the split in the Palestinian Authority and find Hamas and Islamic Jihad in rare agreement with Israel and the United States, although for contradictory reasons.
After Abbas delivered a speech Friday explaining his bid to the United Nations for recognition, Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum ridiculed Abbas for “unilateral moves” that he said are part of a move to resume talks with Israel. Israel, the United States, and many other Western leaders have said the unilateral move, which violates the Oslo Accords, is designed to preclude any chance of direct discussions with Israel over the establishment of the Palestinian Authority as an independent country.
Barhoum explained that recognition by the United Nations would lead to acknowledging the existence of Israel and would abandon “the legitimate Palestinian Right of Return and self-determination.”
Islamic Jihad Spokesperson Daoud Shihab said that Abbas should spend his efforts on achieving unity with Hamas, which controls Gaza and leaves the Palestinian Authority a split entity.
jvaski: Decades of "Yammering" about the same old crap ....who really cares at this point ?
I do as I see what could result if this situation is not addressed with an equitable resolution. That you don't mind seeing twenty million or more people killed without even thinking about it says a lot about you.
Albertaghost: I do as I see what could result if this situation is not addressed with an equitable resolution. That you don't mind seeing twenty million or more people killed without even thinking about it says a lot about you.
To think that YOU are gonna change anything living in a forum your entire life sais a lot about you
jvaski: To think that YOU are gonna change anything living in a forum your entire life sais a lot about you
wasn't it you who started this Thread? jvaski: To think that YOU are gonna change anything living in a forum your entire life sais a lot about you
Hardly Jon. The real war is on public opinion which is why both sides are so intent on winning that war. Why do you think there are so many anti Israel goons unable to use actual facts in their arguments on these forums? That you are unaware about that shows how clueless you are. And, that you start threads about things you don't care about really shows how much spare time you have on your hands - not to mention over seven hundred pages of idiotic useless posts to your credit.
Albertaghost: Hardly Jon. The real war is on public opinion which is why both sides are so intent on winning that war. Why do you think there are so many anti Israel goons unable to use actual facts in their arguments on these forums? That you are unaware about that shows how clueless you are. And, that you start threads about things you don't care about really shows how much spare time you have on your hands - not to mention over seven hundred pages of idiotic useless posts to your credit.
I'm very sorry you've been disappoinred in my threads and posts....
Hoping you're not losing any sleep over it.
I repeat myself - WHO REALLY CARES about this forever ungoing conflict - only those who don't have a life I'de suggest ....
jvaski: I'm very sorry you've been disappoinred in my threads and posts....
Hoping you're not losing any sleep over it.
I repeat myself - WHO REALLY CARES about this forever ungoing conflict - only those who don't have a life I'de suggest ....
Hoping you're not losing any sleep over it.
I repeat myself - WHO REALLY CARES about this forever ungoing conflict - only those who don't have a life I'de suggest ....
You don't have to apologize Jon, I gave up on your posts and complete compassion for human life a long time ago. That you don't recognize how this particular issue affects not only the millions of those directly involved but, would compromise global security should it take a serious downturn then you really ought to stick to fluff threads like 'Paris Hilton does Piers Morgan !' as you certain appear out of your depth on this one.
And you started it!
Albertaghost: You don't have to apologize Jon, I gave up on your posts and complete compassion for human life a long time ago. That you don't recognize how this particular issue affects not only the millions of those directly involved but, would compromise global security should it take a serious downturn then you really ought to stick to fluff threads like 'Paris Hilton does Piers Morgan !' as you certain appear out of your depth on this one.
And you started it!
lAnd you started it!
It's only as deep and useless for argument as you make it Alberta.
I'll bet both Paris Hilton and Piers Morgan both combined don't spend half the time wasting their lives away the way you do ....
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Can we just put this amnnoying issue to Bed onec and FOR ALL ???