I didn't realise it was that easy for a few mortals to "force" the son of God to do some miracles. I would have thought he's have better resolve than that. Imagine giving in and going against your father's wishes at the behest of some partially inebriated mortals. This is particularly bad when your father happens to be God himself! So what's the story with the Last Supper then? Was he allowed to have a few scoops because it was his leaving do?
Forcedhand: PBUH means (Peace be upon him) Secondly you must go and read the context and then you will come to know that Jesus PBUH did that miracle unwillingly which clearly proves that Alcohol is prohibited in the Bible as well in the Quran strictly. Thirdly even beer also contains Alcohol so as the Bible says that you can't even have wine neither strong drink means not even beer according to the new testament Gospel of Luke further you said that Jesus PBUH is God Almighty himself. There is not a single unequivocal statement in the complete Bible, where Jesus (peace be upon him) himself says that ‘I am God’ or, where he says ‘Worship me’. not a single. In fact if you read the Bible it is mentioned in the Gospel of John Ch.No.14 Verse No.28, Jesus (peace be upon him) said ‘My Father is greater than I’ In the Gospel of John Ch. No.10 Verse No.29 ‘My father is greater than all’. In the Gospel of Mathew Ch.No.12 Verse No.28 “I cast out devil with Sprit of God’. Gospel of Luke Ch. No.11 Verse No.20 “I with the finger of God, cast out devils’. who is the father God Almighty Allah Gospel of John, Ch.No.5 V.No.30 ‘I can of my own self do nothing as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my will, but the will of thy Father, who has sent me’. He never claimed Divinity. now who is Jesus PBUH hearing to God Almighty Allah who's will is Jesus PBUH following God Almighty Allah's will who sent Jesus PBUH God Almighty Allah. Allah is the creator of all who sent a chain of Prophets time to time to various nations and tribes to deliver his message from Adam to the last and final messenger Prophet Muhammad PBUH who is the seal of Prophets. It is further mentioned in the book of Acts Ch.No.2 Verse No.22 “O men of Israel, hear this, Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved by God, amongst you, by miracles, and wonders and signs, which God did by him, in your presence, and you were witness’. It says, ‘Jesus of Nazareth a man approved by God, by miracles and wonders, which God did by him’. Hope that clears you big misconception.
trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK8,005 posts
Sunnydaze14: There is a category here for Religion. This is not it. This is a fun thread for people who enjoy beer. Or do you know what "fun" is? I don't think it really is prohibited by most religions.
Now, can I suggest that you move your preaching to the religion threads PLEASE?
Sunnydaze14: There is a category here for Religion. This is not it. This is a fun thread for people who enjoy beer. Or do you know what "fun" is? I don't think it really is prohibited by most religions.
Now, can I suggest that you move your preaching to the religion threads PLEASE?
Why is the bar open on that thread???? Mines is a ..................
bodleingGreater Manchester, England UK13,810 posts
Amir2: Forcedhand: PBUH means (Peace be upon him) Secondly you must go and read the context and then you will come to know that Jesus PBUH did that miracle unwillingly which clearly proves that Alcohol is prohibited in the Bible as well in the Quran strictly. Thirdly even beer also contains Alcohol so as the Bible says that you can't even have wine neither strong drink means not even beer according to the new testament Gospel of Luke further you said that Jesus PBUH is God Almighty himself. There is not a single unequivocal statement in the complete Bible, where Jesus (peace be upon him) himself says that ‘I am God’ or, where he says ‘Worship me’. not a single. In fact if you read the Bible it is mentioned in the Gospel of John Ch.No.14 Verse No.28, Jesus (peace be upon him) said ‘My Father is greater than I’ In the Gospel of John Ch. No.10 Verse No.29 ‘My father is greater than all’. In the Gospel of Mathew Ch.No.12 Verse No.28 “I cast out devil with Sprit of God’. Gospel of Luke Ch. No.11 Verse No.20 “I with the finger of God, cast out devils’. who is the father God Almighty Allah Gospel of John, Ch.No.5 V.No.30 ‘I can of my own self do nothing as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my will, but the will of thy Father, who has sent me’. He never claimed Divinity. now who is Jesus PBUH hearing to God Almighty Allah who's will is Jesus PBUH following God Almighty Allah's will who sent Jesus PBUH God Almighty Allah. Allah is the creator of all who sent a chain of Prophets time to time to various nations and tribes to deliver his message from Adam to the last and final messenger Prophet Muhammad PBUH who is the seal of Prophets. It is further mentioned in the book of Acts Ch.No.2 Verse No.22 “O men of Israel, hear this, Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved by God, amongst you, by miracles, and wonders and signs, which God did by him, in your presence, and you were witness’. It says, ‘Jesus of Nazareth a man approved by God, by miracles and wonders, which God did by him’. Hope that clears you big misconception.
I would save your preaching for those a bit closer.
Whilst spending some time in Pakistan it didn't take me long to realise how far a bottle of 'fire water' could get you if offered as a bribe.
As I´m not religious I can drink my beer any way I want to and don´t worry about heaven or hell. In the summers I like Corona with a slice of lime, in the winter i usually favor something darker like a dark Krosovice and both in the summers and winters I wont say no to a bottle of Zlatopramen.
ALCOHOLISM IS NOT A DISEASE IT IS SATAN’S HANDIWORKquote]
Maybe if some of you religious zealots cooled out with a nice beer, religious-fueled atrocities like the Crusades, 9-11, the Spanish Inquisition, the occupation of Gaza, Northern Ireland's carry-on etc might not have happened.
Jesus enjoyed a glass of wine; it's only when you overdo it that alcohol is a problem.
Me, I like a dark beer. German alt, or Scottish heavy / export. Not too cold.
TartanK: ALCOHOLISM IS NOT A DISEASE IT IS SATAN’S HANDIWORKquote]
Maybe if some of you religious zealots cooled out with a nice beer, religious-fueled atrocities like the Crusades, 9-11, the Spanish Inquisition, the occupation of Gaza, Northern Ireland's carry-on etc might not have happened.
Jesus enjoyed a glass of wine; it's only when you overdo it that alcohol is a problem.
Me, I like a dark beer. German alt, or Scottish heavy / export. Not too cold.
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I didn't realise it was that easy for a few mortals to "force" the son of God to do some miracles. I would have thought he's have better resolve than that. Imagine giving in and going against your father's wishes at the behest of some partially inebriated mortals. This is particularly bad when your father happens to be God himself!
So what's the story with the Last Supper then? Was he allowed to have a few scoops because it was his leaving do?
Forcedhand: PBUH means (Peace be upon him) Secondly you must go and read the context and then you will come to know that Jesus PBUH did that miracle unwillingly which clearly proves that Alcohol is prohibited in the Bible as well in the Quran strictly. Thirdly even beer also contains Alcohol so as the Bible says that you can't even have wine neither strong drink means not even beer according to the new testament Gospel of Luke further you said that Jesus PBUH is God Almighty himself. There is not a single unequivocal statement in the complete Bible, where Jesus (peace be upon him) himself says that ‘I am God’ or, where he says ‘Worship me’. not a single. In fact if you read the Bible it is mentioned in the Gospel of John Ch.No.14 Verse No.28, Jesus (peace be upon him) said ‘My Father is greater than I’ In the Gospel of John Ch. No.10 Verse No.29 ‘My father is greater than all’. In the Gospel of Mathew Ch.No.12 Verse No.28 “I cast out devil with Sprit of God’. Gospel of Luke Ch. No.11 Verse No.20 “I with the finger of God, cast out devils’. who is the father God Almighty Allah Gospel of John, Ch.No.5 V.No.30 ‘I can of my own self do nothing as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my will, but the will of thy Father, who has sent me’. He never claimed Divinity. now who is Jesus PBUH hearing to God Almighty Allah who's will is Jesus PBUH following God Almighty Allah's will who sent Jesus PBUH God Almighty Allah. Allah is the creator of all who sent a chain of Prophets time to time to various nations and tribes to deliver his message from Adam to the last and final messenger Prophet Muhammad PBUH who is the seal of Prophets. It is further mentioned in the book of Acts Ch.No.2 Verse No.22 “O men of Israel, hear this, Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved by God, amongst you, by miracles, and wonders and signs, which God did by him, in your presence, and you were witness’. It says, ‘Jesus of Nazareth a man approved by God, by miracles and wonders, which God did by him’. Hope that clears you big misconception.