drugs (138)
salankydublin, Dublin Ireland90 Threads 1 Polls 9,888 PostsMADDOG69: Meh. Nothing I was doing was really addictive though and I never treated it that way. Was something you'd do for the right occasion. Was a blast at the time, and when I wanted to stop I could. She showed pure ignorance and small mindness on a bunch of things. There is no 'go back' with the likes of weekend E. It's not like cigarettes, heroine or booze. Some people might get psychologically addicted. Always looking for the high. But the physical addiction isn't really there like cigarettes for example.
well everyone has their reasons for acting in the way they do, maybe she just wasnt as open minded as you thought or as she made out. not saying you were addicted to them all i meant was maybe she was worried that because you had done them before and knew how they felt that you might want that feeling again but sure iv never done any of them so have no idea what they are likevinny1967: Was never really interested in 'illegal' drugs to be honest. Had a couple of spliffs and it changed me so never went back.
I don't understand how people can think Alcohol is a worse drug than Heroin though. Sure it effects more people but that's because it's more widely used. From my experience I have not seen the majority of heroin users being able to enjoy the drug without letting it have a profound effect on their lives, whereas most people who use alcohol use it sensibly. Maybe it's just me.
Nicotine is the most addictive of the lot.
I don't understand how people can think Alcohol is a worse drug than Heroin though. Sure it effects more people but that's because it's more widely used. From my experience I have not seen the majority of heroin users being able to enjoy the drug without letting it have a profound effect on their lives, whereas most people who use alcohol use it sensibly. Maybe it's just me.
Nicotine is the most addictive of the lot.
so right vinny am off the cigs since march ive been to hell+back fighting my demons, find myself running at all hours to quash the cravings
vinny1967: Was never really interested in 'illegal' drugs to be honest. Had a couple of spliffs and it changed me so never went back.
I don't understand how people can think Alcohol is a worse drug than Heroin though. Sure it effects more people but that's because it's more widely used. From my experience I have not seen the majority of heroin users being able to enjoy the drug without letting it have a profound effect on their lives, whereas most people who use alcohol use it sensibly. Maybe it's just me.
Nicotine is the most addictive of the lot.
I don't understand how people can think Alcohol is a worse drug than Heroin though. Sure it effects more people but that's because it's more widely used. From my experience I have not seen the majority of heroin users being able to enjoy the drug without letting it have a profound effect on their lives, whereas most people who use alcohol use it sensibly. Maybe it's just me.
Nicotine is the most addictive of the lot.
Alcohol kills more peole every year and costs the health service billions. Wrecks more families too. Again Vinny, the big problem with herion or any street opiate is the crap they cut into it.
And yep nicotine is the worst of the lot. But the biggest problem with street drugs is simply prohibition.
Phoenix: Thats not true. Most naturally grown drugs when taken in their natural form do no harm to your health or development. The problem is simply because they are cut with crap to make profits.
People with mental health issues will have them even they don't take 'drugs'.
Phoenix drugs do harm the growing brain of a teenager cannabis use in the teenage brain can leave mental health issues PURE or not. Where is your guarantee of PURE drugs? are you going to beleive a drug pushers word? Yes people with mental health issues will be the same without drug use of course but some aquire mental health issues after drug use.People with mental health issues will have them even they don't take 'drugs'.
fairstein: so right vinny am off the cigs since march ive been to hell+back fighting my demons, find myself running at all hours to quash the cravings
Well fair play to you Fairstein. Not an easy thing to do.
I have enough demons already without adding to them by giving them up
celticeyes1: Unfortunatly Pedro most teenagers dont listen untill its too late just like I didnt listen about dangers of drinking when I was young. Luckily I had a child early so that kicked sense into me and I stopped drinking for pregnancy and many years after. I was always afraid of taking hard drugs because I was with a guy who had manic depression and he started taking drugs heavily it turned him into a monster. Seriously frightening to see someone change so much because I drugs.
it's only when something devolops in them that they relise oh dam, i should have listened to there advise, it's the same with everything it's only when it stikes them that they relise there way of thinking is 'that would never happen to me' and some take there life, and never seek help for whatever reasons
Phoenix: Alcohol kills more peole every year and costs the health service billions. Wrecks more families too. Again Vinny, the big problem with herion or any street opiate is the crap they cut into it.
And yep nicotine is the worst of the lot. But the biggest problem with street drugs is simply prohibition.
And yep nicotine is the worst of the lot. But the biggest problem with street drugs is simply prohibition.
I'm not denying any of that Phoenix.
I was specifically talking about alcohol or heroin and which is worse, as a drug in the form it's sold.
To me Heroin is far worse considering the effect it has on peoples lives. The people I know who took it, their lives fell apart and some are not here now because of it, whereas the vast amount of people can use alcohol responsibly and it does not have such an adverse effect on their lives
vinny1967: Well fair play to you Fairstein. Not an easy thing to do.
I have enough demons already without adding to them by giving them up
I have enough demons already without adding to them by giving them up
Thanks vinny its like my best friend has been taken away lol,i know it wrong but id love a silk cut purple now
celticeyes1: Phoenix drugs do harm the growing brain of a teenager cannabis use in the teenage brain can leave mental health issues PURE or not. .
Just listen to the experts..Not me. Take time to watch the two documentaries celtic. Thats all I'm asking (in your own free time)
Phoenix: Just listen to the experts..Not me. Take time to watch the two documentaries celtic. Thats all I'm asking (in your own free time)
I'll have a look at them when I get a chance but these so called experts I'm assuming are of your view but there are also so called experts which uphold my view. So I think as an adult I will keep my view and you can keep yours and we should agree to disagree fairstein: Thanks vinny its like my best friend has been taken away lol,i know it wrong but id love a silk cut purple now
Hard to break the habit alright. When it something you are so accustomed to doing it seems to be constantly there. But that's all it is now for you, a habit.
Hope you stay off them Fairstein.
celticeyes1: I'll have a look at them when I get a chance but these so called experts I'm assuming are of your view but there are also so called experts which uphold my view. So I think as an adult I will keep my view and you can keep yours and we should agree to disagree
The expert state quite clearly the damage they do, people choose to read the research that suits what they want to hear or support their views, the evidence is outstanding, our mental health clinics, hospitals etc are packed with under 25yr olds
celticeyes1: I'll have a look at them when I get a chance but these so called experts I'm assuming are of your view but there are also so called experts which uphold my view. So I think as an adult I will keep my view and you can keep yours and we should agree to disagree
These experts are FBI agents, high ranking police officers, goverment reports..Marie Curie, surgeons in top hospitals in the UK, doctors, social workers.......
Just watch them. Thats all I ask.
try see the bigger picture Phoenix,
the world wide view on serious drugs is not a positived view, they play with the ole mind and can lead to many different issue
the world wide view on serious drugs is not a positived view, they play with the ole mind and can lead to many different issue
celticeyes1: I'll have a look at them when I get a chance but these so called experts I'm assuming are of your view but there are also so called experts which uphold my view. So I think as an adult I will keep my view and you can keep yours and we should agree to disagree
And all experts say prohibition is the big problem. Not the drug. Paracetamol is more dangereous than opiates.
vinny1967: Hard to break the habit alright. When it something you are so accustomed to doing it seems to be constantly there. But that's all it is now for you, a habit.
Hope you stay off them Fairstein.
Hope you stay off them Fairstein.
thanks vin have become a fitness freak to compensate 20 pack of cigs+running dont mix too good lol
wittyone: The expert state quite clearly the damage they do, people choose to read the research that suits what they want to hear or support their views, the evidence is outstanding, our mental health clinics, hospitals etc are packed with under 25yr olds
Which expert? Show me one expert who says weed or opiate in its natual form causes mental health.
The problme with mental health is a very different one from people taking drugs. I'll concede that people with MH issues should take 'drugs' but thats not the root casue of MH issues.
Deffo not the same ball park.
Phoenix: Which expert? Show me one expert who says weed or opiate in its natual form causes mental health.
The problme with mental health is a very different one from people taking drugs. I'll concede that people with MH issues should take 'drugs' but thats not the root casue of MH issues.
Deffo not the same ball park.
The problme with mental health is a very different one from people taking drugs. I'll concede that people with MH issues should take 'drugs' but thats not the root casue of MH issues.
Deffo not the same ball park.
No
vinny1967: I'm not denying any of that Phoenix.
I was specifically talking about alcohol or heroin and which is worse, as a drug in the form it's sold.
To me Heroin is far worse considering the effect it has on peoples lives. The people I know who took it, their lives fell apart and some are not here now because of it, whereas the vast amount of people can use alcohol responsibly and it does not have such an adverse effect on their lives
I was specifically talking about alcohol or heroin and which is worse, as a drug in the form it's sold.
To me Heroin is far worse considering the effect it has on peoples lives. The people I know who took it, their lives fell apart and some are not here now because of it, whereas the vast amount of people can use alcohol responsibly and it does not have such an adverse effect on their lives
Oh, after all these years knowing you my dear, I have to disagree with you (in red). My husband died from alchoholism. It had a great effect on his, my life and especially our daughter's. He could drink "responsibily" one day and then be drunk every day for months and into years. The line for a responsible person who drinks and one who is an alcoholic is very thin.
But I'm still a fan of the pink shirt..
montemonte: Oh, after all these years knowing you my dear, I have to disagree with you (in red). My husband died from alchoholism. It had a great effect on his, my life and especially our daughter's. He could drink "responsibily" one day and then be drunk every day for months and into years. The line for a responsible person who drinks and one who is an alcoholic is very thin.
But I'm still a fan of the pink shirt..
But I'm still a fan of the pink shirt..
Hi Monte
Yeah I know what happened with your husband and I sympathise. Unfortunately it does not mean that the vast majority of people who take a drink will end up the same way. It can be a terrible drug if it gets hold of you but I was comparing it to Heroin and as I say the vast majority of people who take a drink can do so in a reasonable manner and it will not effect their lives adversely
Hand on heart i have never had any of the drugs on the list .....................I don`t smoke, but i love my Bulmers 
4 cans is lovely ............ six and i am dying of a hangover 
4 cans is lovely ............ six and i am dying of a hangover royallee: Hand on heart i have never had any of the drugs on the list .....................I don`t smoke, but i love my Bulmers 4 cans is lovely ............ six and i am dying of a hangover
the apple juice bulmersMADDOG69: They do harm the brain. Years afterwards it can effect. Burns out the Serotonin cells. The when you hit 50+ your wondering why you're a bit depressed all the time. (serotonin cells die gradually as one ages, normally, some drugs that activate these cells make them die quicker, so when you get old there's not many left.)
I was on a very strong prescription medication a few years back for a back injury. Thankfully I didnt need to take this particular tablet very often, only once every few months if I put my back out again. I always carried a tablet with me but one day I forgot it and put my back out at work. I went to the local chemist and asked if he could give me one of them....his response....I could give you cocaine quicker than one of those.
That'll tell you just how strong some medication is.
Thankfully I was responsible enough to only take it if in dire need but I know someone who takes that particular tablet like I take paracetamol for a migraine!
I suffered from PND rather badly and was severely medicated for it.....if i missed my prescribed dose by even an hour I would get the shakes, the panic attacks and the cold sweats. It took 14 months for me under advice to come off them. For me, on medication prescribed by a doctor..... I suffered terrifying withdrawal symptoms and wouldnt willingly put myself into the position of that situation due to recreational drug taking.
That'll tell you just how strong some medication is.
Thankfully I was responsible enough to only take it if in dire need but I know someone who takes that particular tablet like I take paracetamol for a migraine!
I suffered from PND rather badly and was severely medicated for it.....if i missed my prescribed dose by even an hour I would get the shakes, the panic attacks and the cold sweats. It took 14 months for me under advice to come off them. For me, on medication prescribed by a doctor..... I suffered terrifying withdrawal symptoms and wouldnt willingly put myself into the position of that situation due to recreational drug taking.
vinny1967: You naughty minx
Will be there in half an hour. If I'm not there by then start without me
Will be there in half an hour. If I'm not there by then start without me
pedro27: the apple juice bulmers
Yes Pedro............... my favourite tipple
Weed is great :)
mr1983: I have to agree with Phoenix on what he says about pure heroin. There is a massive difference between "pure" heroin and "street" heroin. Pure heroin is not generally toxic to the body. People can have relatively normal lives if they have access to "pure" heroin and take it in responsible ways. Overdose is virtually non-existent due to people known the strength of the heroin and also that no other substances are in the heroin. The reason overdose occurs so often is due to the differing strengths of "street" heroin and the substances that the heroin is cut from. I don't take heroin, never have and never will but I agree that the biggest problem regards heroin is its criminalisation. It has not worked and will not work. Proper education of people and a legalisation will create a greater solution.
Before everyone jumps on my back here, I do understand that, when not taking responsibly it becomes a huge problem but that is the same for all drugs, both legal and illegal. At the moment we have massive global criminal gangs and a criminalisation of millions of addicts. Legalisation will kill off the criminal gangs and proper education will deal with the consumption of drugs.
Before everyone jumps on my back here, I do understand that, when not taking responsibly it becomes a huge problem but that is the same for all drugs, both legal and illegal. At the moment we have massive global criminal gangs and a criminalisation of millions of addicts. Legalisation will kill off the criminal gangs and proper education will deal with the consumption of drugs.
'83, surprise surprise I agree 100% with you and the biggest problem is once again prohibition.
no drugs last night I have an awful craving for a yoke this past while..must be getting bored with life again
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