LadyBlackAdder: I am not a practising Christian myself but this thread is about SOULSwhich is, surely, a religious matter.
Not necessarily a religious matter only. But I take your point on how people will decide whether a dog has a soul due to the authority you presented. After all that was what I was asking in the thread.
Poor dogs. Tell you what though, when I was in the pram one of the greyhounds they had went beserk in his shed barking and nearly knocked it down. When they ran out to see wtf was going on, I was in a spot of bother.. sicked up and nearly suffocated. Only for that dog I'd be dead. The same dog broke the 525 record in Enniscorthy and held that record for years after.
But why? If it's that important I presume it's one of the first questions you ask a girl? 'if we get on well will you like my dog, coz I'll just call it off now if the answer is no'. No point in leading her up the garden path for a few months for her to then find she's a poor second to the four legged friend. That'd be a bit unfair on her...
MADDOG69: Poor dogs. Tell you what though, when I was in the pram one of the greyhounds they had went beserk in his shed barking and nearly knocked it down. When they ran out to see wtf was going on, I was in a spot of bother.. sicked up and nearly suffocated. Only for that dog I'd be dead. The same dog broke the 525 record in Enniscorthy and held that record for years after.
Some dogs are more equal than others.
Good story...
I remember hunting with my aulfella when i was about 10, him and his mate shot a pheasant, it dropped in a forest and they went after it with the dogs, i was trying to keep up but got lost, about 10 minutes later our 9 year old spaniel Jessy came back and practically walked me back to where my aulfella was...never forget it
I remember hunting with my aulfella when i was about 10, him and his mate shot a pheasant, it dropped in a forest and they went after it with the dogs, i was trying to keep up but got lost, about 10 minutes later our 9 year old spaniel Jessy came back and practically walked me back to where my aulfella was...never forget it
Yep. Dogs see everyone in the group as an integral part of the 'Pack'. Pure instinct. They'll watch each others backs, human or canine.
skyblue43: But why? If it's that important I presume it's one of the first questions you ask a girl? 'if we get on well will you like my dog, coz I'll just call it off now if the answer is no'. No point in leading her up the garden path for a few months for her to then find she's a poor second to the four legged friend. That'd be a bit unfair on her...
Substitute "will you like my dog" for "will you be ok with me going to all Dublin games", same thing
If a partner asked me to give up either (club and Donegal in my case) there would be no point in going any further....
Surely in the 'getting to know each other' stage the topic is bound to come up, or be discussed to some degree its not as if *bang* youre suddenly madly head over heals in love with someone and have to make a choice. Whether you fall madly in love with someone is determined (I believe) by all the factors that make up that person, if you dont like some of them, in this case say, being a dog owner/lover, then why take it any further or make someone change to suit you.....on the other hand, if it were such a loving, understandable relationship then there is compromise
skyblue43: And I'd not give up Dublin games or golf...but they're not 24/7
24/7 doesn't come into it.....
It's about someone asking you to give up something that makes you who you are
Leaving family out of it, my life is Lacey, Glen and Donegal, ask me to give up any one of those and you're trying to change me. That isn't going to happen!!!!
skyblue43: And I'd not give up Dublin games or golf...but they're not 24/7
The thing is though, sky, people like to keep dogs or cats or budgies or snakes or whatever.. it sort of defines them somewhat in some small way. It reminds of Jack Duckworth with his pigeons. Asking someone to rid of the pet is akin to not accepting someone for who they are, 100%.
Green_Sleeves: Surely in the 'getting to know each other' stage the topic is bound to come up, or be discussed to some degree its not as if *bang* youre suddenly madly head over heals in love with someone and have to make a choice. Whether you fall madly in love with someone is determined (I believe) by all the factors that make up that person, if you dont like some of them, in this case say, being a dog owner/lover, then why take it any further or make someone change to suit you.....on the other hand, if it were such a loving, understandable relationship then there is compromise
Ok here's one for you...say you're madly in love with someone, then out of nowhere she gets attacked by a dog (not yours) and develops a huge fear of them, she then decides that she can't be with you while you have a dog...what do you do then??
MADDOG69: The thing is though, sky, people like to keep dogs or cats or budgies or snakes or whatever.. it sort of defines them somewhat in some small way. It reminds of Jack Duckworth with his pigeons. Asking someone to rid of the pet is akin to not accepting someone for who they are, 100%.
On a sidenote, pidgeons are class! I love 'em, my dad was always big into racing pigeons, still keeps a few to give him something to do!
mcattack: Ok here's one for you...say you're madly in love with someone, then out of nowhere she gets attacked by a dog (not yours) and develops a huge fear of them, she then decides that she can't be with you while you have a dog...what do you do then??
Bring her to a counsellor to sort her out. Fear of Dogs/Spiders/Airplanes etc can be fixed. If she meant that much to me, I'd be willing to do that whether I had a dog or not.
Take someone as they are or forget about it. A certain amount of willingness to compromise has to be there, but I don't believe in changing someone and I wouldn't change for someone. If someone would keep spiders I might just never go there. Dogs yes, if it's a "healthy" relationship with one.
As for love conquers all -
Maybe if you're 17, not when you you're old enough to know what you want.
MADDOG69: The thing is though, sky, people like to keep dogs or cats or budgies or snakes or whatever.. it sort of defines them somewhat in some small way. It reminds of Jack Duckworth with his pigeons. Asking someone to rid of the pet is akin to not accepting someone for who they are, 100%.
It defines someone at a point in time. I did dig the heels in over many things...my lads night in the pub, sports I played, lads holidays etc. None of them are important to me any more and no longer define me yet each cost me the chance of happiness with different women....chances that I'd now wish I'd taken. Sometimes it's good to see where the other person is coming from...
mcattack: Ok here's one for you...say you're madly in love with someone, then out of nowhere she gets attacked by a dog (not yours) and develops a huge fear of them, she then decides that she can't be with you while you have a dog...what do you do then??
Tell her to get over it!
Emm, jeez I dunno, give the dog to a family member to look after it? I know in my family a lot of my aunts/cousins have dogs and theyre all well looked after, ie if my parents go on holiday I'll look after the dog or they'll send it to my aunts, likewise with my aunts/cousins, they might leave there dog with my parents. So, even they wouldnt like to see the dog been given away in the scenario you brought up, one of them would take it in until the problem could be worked out; if possible
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Wolves and dogs split into different species about 100,000 years ago