Killing Animals by human..... (136)

Jan 1, 2013 4:26 PM CST Killing Animals by human.....
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
ParamaSathya: Well its a nice tricky question.
destruction of a life to save another life. If this happens,you are having both consequences of killing an animal and Saving a Child. Good consequences (merit) for saving a life, and the bad consequence (sin) for destructing a life. Two intentions arises one after another (saving a life and destructing a life)


Tell me if I'm wrong. From what you have said and I have read about the cycle of reincarnations, a living being will have a better body in its next life when their actions are good. So if I kill the snake before it makes a bad action, its life will be better in its next incarnation since it hasn't to bear the blame.
And I would have saved the child, so my action will be good for him, the snake and also for me. Isn't it?

By the way, did you know that in Arizona want to ban the karma?
Jan 1, 2013 4:38 PM CST Killing Animals by human.....
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
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Jan 1, 2013 4:39 PM CST Killing Animals by human.....
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
GUZMAN1: Tell me if I'm wrong. From what you have said and I have read about the cycle of reincarnations, a living being will have a better body in its next life when their actions are good. So if I kill the snake before it makes a bad action, its life will be better in its next incarnation since it hasn't to bear the blame.
And I would have saved the child, so my action will be good for him, the snake and also for me. Isn't it?

By the way, did you know that in Arizona want to ban the karma?


Having a better body in next life will depend on the mind of the death (Chuthi Sitta). It will cause to the mind of the birth (Janma Sitta). Snake may have a good or bad life after the death cos of the state of his mind at death not cos of your action. Mind rules the actions, mind precede the action.

Arizona ...ban the Karma..? confused what is it ?
Jan 1, 2013 4:55 PM CST Killing Animals by human.....
cchances
cchancescchancesDavis, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 89 Posts
i need some advice what would be a good rifle cal. to go moose hunting?
Jan 2, 2013 12:09 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
BelladonnaMaria: We replicate what our parents have become! It is up to us to break the vicious cycle of bad karma! God has implanted within us the ability, coupled with enough intelligence work that one out for ourselves! That meat truck we find ourselves riding behind on its way to slaughter becomes us! For it will be us they will be sticking their fork into the next time round. Our karma becomes the meat on their plate & that is only fair! May God have mercy upon their souls! & may they find everlasting peace! Merry Christmas all! From: Humans, nothing but cannibals pretending to be civilized! Author: FOR ALL WE KNOW WHAT DO WE KNOW? SAVE FOR THAT THE LAW OF KARMA REALLY DOES EXIST! LET LIFE BE OUR ONLY TEACHER AS OUR CREATOR INTENDED IT TO BE & NOT THE CHURCH! AFTER ALL WHO CREATED LIFE ? NO FURTHER COMMENTS!


hi..
To me, God is the Doctrine of this Universe.innocent
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Jan 2, 2013 5:11 PM CST Killing Animals by human.....
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
Eating Alive




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Jan 2, 2013 5:14 PM CST Killing Animals by human.....
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxoQVUVrOw4

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Jan 2, 2013 8:54 PM CST Killing Animals by human.....
Mysst
MysstMysstSpringfield, Missouri USA8 Threads 1 Polls 181 Posts
Death is the natural progression of existence. If one excepts this inevitable fact, then transition will be easier achieved, and it doesn't matter.
But there's also a thing called self preservation and survival that one has to consider in any given situation, because it is our duty to adapt and overcome, its our earthly imprint and guarantees the perpetuation of our godly seed to be passed on to a new generation.

In other words, you better make damn good and sure you kill me first because paybacks are hell devil
Jan 3, 2013 12:31 PM CST Killing Animals by human.....
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
Mysst: Karma is just another word for "Ego" as with any other word or explanation of something that's of a "not understood reason" created by man like the word "GOD"


Karma is created cos of the egoism, and egoism is created cos of the ignorance (nescience/unenlightenment)
angel
Jan 3, 2013 12:38 PM CST Killing Animals by human.....
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
Mysst: Death is the natural progression of existence. If one excepts this inevitable fact, then transition will be easier achieved, and it doesn't matter.
But there's also a thing called self preservation and survival that one has to consider in any given situation, because it is our duty to adapt and overcome, its our earthly imprint and guarantees the perpetuation of our godly seed to be passed on to a new generation.

In other words, you better make damn good and sure you kill me first because paybacks are hell


No need of killing you, cos the human inside you is already dead. It only remains a mind of an animal/wild beast when there is no human inside a person.
angel innocent
Jan 3, 2013 7:02 PM CST Killing Animals by human.....
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
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Jan 3, 2013 7:06 PM CST Killing Animals by human.....
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
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Jan 5, 2013 7:08 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
BelladonnaMaria
BelladonnaMariaBelladonnaMariaPort Elizabeth, Eastern Cape South Africa6 Threads 6 Polls 70 Posts
When come knocking upon my door bible in hand? I tell them to put their little book of man-made tricks down & to go spend a day in an abattoir & then to come back to me & tell me, exactly how they feel about it! Do humans have any feelings at all! Sometimes I wonder which happens to be very often! Manipulators of a kind they are... Say no morrrrrre! Byeeeeeeeeee! I'm off to incentivise myself NOT to eat any meat, the god given lives of others, for if I eat of their lives how then can I respect the lives of my fellow human beings? Therefore I am off to go watch some slaughterhouse videos on You Tube now! Please join me if you dare! As Paul McCartney once said: “If slaughter houses had glass walls everyone would be vegetarian!”
Jan 5, 2013 8:31 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Why is it okay to kill plants ???
Jan 5, 2013 8:44 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
postivethinker1
postivethinker1postivethinker1kashmir, Jammu and Kashmir India9 Threads 3 Polls 119 Posts
Why humans are being killed?
Jan 5, 2013 8:47 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
ParamaSathya: My friend, your question is very good and the answer for that can be too long according to the Buddhist Doctrine. To give this question a precise answer I have to explain the reincarnation/cycle of births and rebirths of the different grounds/worlds/planes of the living beings. Anyway I'll try to shorten my answer as much as I can.

To your question my direct answer is "yes"

According to the Buddhism,mainly there are 4 types of blazes/evil states
1. Thirisan (animal)
2. Asura
3. Pretha
4. Yama
And for the other three things I can't give single English words since they misinterprets the real meaning of these words.They are used for demons, devils,ghosts,phantoms,tempters,fiends,goblins,gremlins and geneis etc and many more.

Thirisan (Animal)
According to the teachings, animals are sentient beings just as humans, comprised of mind-matter (nama-rupa) combination. They are subject to the same kammic laws as humans. A being may be born in the animal plane (which is classed below that of human) as a result of unwholesome kamma.

That's why it is cold that this eternal "Sansara" (cycle of births and rebirths) is full of sorrow and sufferings.No eternal agreements can be made with this sansara.It is so disputable and everything is unstable. Buddhism is not a religion. It is a method for ending up the journey of this sansara.


Kind sir, these are all fixed beliefs with nothing to mirror them. SI believe that Siddhartha would be displeased to read such mental imagery which does not account for the fullness of the truth.

wave
Jan 5, 2013 8:52 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Boban1: Why is it okay to kill plants ???

because plants kill animals? dunno
Jan 5, 2013 9:07 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
Missblonde
MissblondeMissblondebanyeres, Valencia Spain142 Posts
Just off for a steak.... grin
Jan 5, 2013 9:23 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
galrads: because plants kill animals?

Well, who ever tried Oleander tea never lived long enough to talk about it...grin
Jan 5, 2013 9:30 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
ParamaSathya: well...Pants do not have the type of consciousness (vinnana) inherent in a sentient being, therefore rebirth as a plant or tree is not possible.

What about carnivorous plants?
confused
Jan 5, 2013 9:34 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
I love the picture of Jesus with the rottweiler...dancing dog
Jan 5, 2013 10:13 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
Boban1: Why is it okay to kill plants ???


Have you heard that Carrots,Cabbage,Potatoes and fruits etc scream when you are going to uproot/pluck/cut or eat them ? Have you seen or heard that they scream for their lives or for their loving ones ? Haven't you seen animal breed and look after their cubs/youngers etc and feeding them ?
Nobody can justify the known fact cos of an unknown fact. How could you close to the invisible god, without having the sense over the known visible facts on this earth. We can justify the things over logics, but we can't cheat our own hearts/minds.
And even destroying plants over unnecessary issues is also an evil thing. Cos, all the living being are depend on plants and there is another fact too. That is whether you believe it or not, plants are the "Vimanas"(homes) of some sort of supernatural beings.
So please listen to your own heart first my friend not to the brain on this issue. Brain is fascinated to the taste of the meats and it tries to justify telling you lot more things to get done its needs.
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angel
Jan 5, 2013 10:40 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
ParamaSathya: Have you heard that Carrots,Cabbage,Potatoes and fruits etc scream when you are going to uproot/pluck/cut or eat them ? Have you seen or heard that they scream for their lives or for their loving ones ? Haven't you seen animal breed and look after their cubs/youngers etc and feeding them ?
Nobody can justify the known fact cos of an unknown fact. How could you close to the invisible god, without having the sense over the known visible facts on this earth. We can justify the things over logics, but we can't cheat our own hearts/minds.
And even destroying plants over unnecessary issues is also an evil thing. Cos, all the living being are depend on plants and there is another fact too. That is whether you believe it or not, plants are the "Vimanas"(homes) of some sort of supernatural beings.
So please listen to your own heart first my friend not to the brain on this issue. Brain is fascinated to the taste of the meats and it tries to justify telling you lot more things to get done its needs.


Well study our digestive system ,our teeth and tell me what you see

it is true ,we can survive on almost any kind of fat and sugar but we were designed to be omnivorous
Jan 5, 2013 10:51 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
Boban1: Well study our digestive system ,our teeth and tell me what you see

it is true ,we can survive on almost any kind of fat and sugar but we were designed to be omnivorous


Being having the ability to everything , and being given human intellect to understand what is right and what is wrong tell me which one is correct. Do everything what we want for our survive or do the right thing for our survive. We must show a bit of difference apart from the animals. Am I correct ?angel
In case of need to get your self survived,could you kill and eat you own relation (son,daughter,wife or friends etc)cos being an omnivorous according to you ? angel
Jan 5, 2013 11:09 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
ParamaSathya: Being having the ability to everything , and being given human intellect to understand what is right and what is wrong tell me which one is correct. Do everything what we want for our survive or do the right thing for our survive. We must show a bit of difference apart from the animals. Am I correct ?
In case of need to get your self survived,could you kill and eat you own relation (son,daughter,wife or friends etc)cos being an omnivorous according to you ?

As you probably know, there was a time when the human race used to eat other human beings ( cannibalism) ,some cults still have the custom of drinking human blood ,the entire modern civilization resorts to killing people ( wars on bigger or smaller scale ) for various reasons
As you can see, giving up on consuming animal flesh is a long process,its not something that can happen over night
Jan 5, 2013 11:13 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
galrads: Kind sir, these are all fixed beliefs with nothing to mirror them. SI believe that Siddhartha would be displeased to read such mental imagery which does not account for the fullness of the truth.


Sorry I'm not put myself into any kind of belief. I am searching. Buddhists are not believers, they are seekers of the truths. The sounds of "Buddha" means = enlightened,intellect
Our mind is free and full freedom has been given to us from Buddhism as well as the Real Hinduism to question anything about them. And we are not ready to accept everything even in the Buddhist scriptures unless they are not well suit with our own wisdom/intellect.Cos these things are maintained by human hands and they can be distorted with the time. But we have been given an intellect/wisdom to reveal the truth.
And Buddhism is not merely a religion. Every body can look at it,question it, follow it or leave it. Its the doctrine of this universe. There are no believers in Buddhism. Free your mind from obligation, and look around while exploring yourself. wave
And no body should call me a Buddhist even...cos it makes nothing to me. Be a seeker of the truth.angel
Jan 5, 2013 11:32 AM CST Killing Animals by human.....
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
Boban1: As you probably know, there was a time when the human race used to eat other human beings ( cannibalism) ,some cults still have the custom of drinking human blood ,the entire modern civilization resorts to killing people ( wars on bigger or smaller scale ) for various reasons
As you can see, giving up on consuming animal flesh is a long process,its not something that can happen over night


Well....not only it won't happen in over night ,it may never happen laugh Cos human mind is preceded easily by the lust,greed,passion,jealousy which creates cos of our ignorance/nescience.
angel
But people who as a better understanding about cannibalism will never carry even its ruins on. angel
Jan 26, 2013 8:52 PM CST Killing Animals by human.....
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
These evil people kill an innocent pregnant cow. What do you think about this ?

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angel
Jan 26, 2013 8:55 PM CST Killing Animals by human.....
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
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Jan 29, 2013 8:17 PM CST Killing Animals by human.....
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
Once I saw the the horrer of killing a bull in a butchery . The fear and horrer prevailed in the pleading eyes of that poor animal was beyond anything I saw so far and it actully stirred my soul . I stopped being a non vegitarian from that moment onwards . I believe we have no right to have personal pleasures by denying someones rights , by inflicting pain and torture. Its not about sin or something like that . Its all about feeling good about what you do.

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