Classic Godzilla was a radioactive monster created in post-war Japan for assist those opposed to even having nuclear power plants used in Japan, let alone bombs. If she awakens again she most likely will be Frankenzilla!
Hahaha.... I just googled Godzilla and learns a new release is for May 14, 2014 and she will be even more radioactive!
Conrad73: yes,it definitely matter who the Anxietymakers are,and what their Agenda to do so is!
Conrad, are you one of those who thinks if you smile in the face of radiation, that you won't have any health issues? A hormesis guy?
I know a whole bunch of Japanese who'd like to talk to you...
I prefer, by the way, informed awareness - if I had children, for example, living in California - I would want to know that there are lethal risks that did not exist before and that, for example, swimming in the ocean, consuming calif. dairy, playing in the rain, etc. may not be such a good idea anymore.
I know of a bunch of folks who took the information - and changed their lives - to be safer.
GUZMAN1: Race horses? Why? did someone fed them with radioactive sushi?
Fallout in the air... hot particles were detected in California, Washington, Canada, fallout across the USA... big lungs, breathing in outdoor air during high fallout... it only takes one particle.
One racetrack, said, whoa, what's up with all these extra deaths, we were getting a good handle on these incidents....
Same with heart attacks of people - CDC reported significant declines, yet, after 311, the stats rose...
so, got a Q for you, enviro fed guy... if you know... will the EPA RadNet ever be fully functional?
galrads: that nails it.
Classic Godzilla was a radioactive monster created in post-war Japan for assist those opposed to even having nuclear power plants used in Japan, let alone bombs. If she awakens again she most likely will be Frankenzilla!
Hahaha.... I just googled Godzilla and learns a new release is for May 14, 2014 and she will be even more radioactive!
PJ1961: Fallout in the air... hot particles were detected in California, Washington, Canada, fallout across the USA... big lungs, breathing in outdoor air during high fallout... it only takes one particle.
One racetrack, said, whoa, what's up with all these extra deaths, we were getting a good handle on these incidents....
Same with heart attacks of people - CDC reported significant declines, yet, after 311, the stats rose...
Radioactivity worries me, but there are a lot of alarmist between the environmentalists.
GUZMAN1: Radioactivity worries me, but there are a lot of alarmist between the environmentalists.
And, it is up to individuals to decide how they want to deal with the issue. I get a little bent when some say a little radiation is good for you. Their data (if they even have any) gets blown out of the lab when faced with the real data (Chernobyl, Bikini Atoll, and now Hawaii and Japan).
well, we stand at odds and I respectfully disagree about the importance of the messenger. It's the effect of three melt-throughs that matters.
Conrad73: anytime I see someone causing this kind of Anxiety about all sorts of Stuff,and not only about those Reactors,but about all the other Conspiracy Stuff on the site,my Spidersenses start to tingle! Nothing curious about trying to find out who is behind it! My guess is,once more we see the grubby fingers of a George Soros behind it! Just something he'd love to get into!
PJ1961: so, got a Q for you, enviro fed guy... if you know... will the EPA RadNet ever be fully functional?
That is a very good question. It should have been completed by now if other new air quality initiatives had not interrupted regular automated air quality monitoring work covering the criteria pollutants in the continental U.S.A.
Following 911, USEPA was order by homeland security to sample for unmentionable toxic airborne fugitive particale pollutants in areas where no one ever determined what the natural background levels are for them. Then, for the first time, u.s.epa was ordered to monitor (or contract with state and local air monitoring agencies) for gases that represent no harm to health at ground level, but indirectly cause health problems later but in the upper atmosphere: greenhouse gases.
Specific and inexpensive automated radiation monitoring techniques haven't existed for most radionuclides on a near real-time basis, excepting radon instrumentation. The telemetry for radionuclides is already in place. Air quality monitoring operations and the quality assurance of it have been very expensive. Radiation monitoring on a national level will not be any different.
thanks for the background reply - didn't expect so much information. One more Q, then I have to nap to encourage my cold go away peacefully... since 311 the number of citizens with geiger counters doing regular testing has increased dramatically. Do you think the EPA would, or could, under the same scientific guides used by Safeacast.org, allow citizens to upload their data? EnviroReporter in So Cal is a good example as is PissinOnTheRoses in St Louis of this type of "scientific" monitoring.
galrads: That is a very good question. It should have been completed by now if other new air quality initiatives had not interrupted regular automated air quality monitoring work covering the criteria pollutants in the continental U.S.A.
Following 911, USEPA was order by homeland security to sample for unmentionable toxic airborne fugitive particale pollutants in areas where no one ever determined what the natural background levels are for them. Then, for the first time, u.s.epa was ordered to monitor (or contract with state and local air monitoring agencies) for gases that represent no harm to health at ground level, but indirectly cause health problems later but in the upper atmosphere: greenhouse gases.
Specific and inexpensive automated radiation monitoring techniques haven't existed for most radionuclides on a near real-time basis, excepting radon instrumentation. The telemetry for radionuclides is already in place. Air quality monitoring operations and the quality assurance of it have been very expensive. Radiation monitoring on a national level will not be any different.
PJ1961: thanks for the background reply - didn't expect so much information. One more Q, then I have to nap to encourage my cold go away peacefully... since 311 the number of citizens with geiger counters doing regular testing has increased dramatically. Do you think the EPA would, or could, under the same scientific guides used by Safeacast.org, allow citizens to upload their data? EnviroReporter in So Cal is a good example as is PissinOnTheRoses in St Louis of this type of "scientific" monitoring.
I'd like to know the answer to this question, too. I imagine, though, that U.S. EPA will require its own guidelines for any ambient air monitoring data to be reported to the national air data base and considered useful.
From the very origins of ambient air quality monitoring in the USA, all ambient air quality monitoring instrumentation had to be tested and approved by U.S. EPA, at their labs in Research Triangle Park, Raleigh N.C. and given a designated reference or equivalency number before any data would be acceptable for entry into the national air data base.
Having these approval numbers alone, still doesn't guarantee that the air quality data from these instruments will be automatically considered good, valid and usedul. The air quality data owners need to first demonstrate to U.S. EPA that the instrumentation was also sited, calibrated, operated and quality assured properly for thermos which data are reported.
I fear you are correct about the usefulness of the readings. Have been watching the graphs off and on for two years and the only thing really discernible about the data was, yes, it's still negligible there, or it's spiking there, or, wow what a trend that city has... it'd be great to see a citizen group get together and with various types of instruments, including food lab machines, produce more informative test results. Like how much corium, strontium, plutonium, cesium, etc...
galrads: I'd like to know the answer to this question, too. I imagine, though, that U.S. EPA will require its own guidelines for any ambient air monitoring data to be reported to the national air data base and considered useful.
From the very origins of ambient air quality monitoring in the USA, all ambient air quality monitoring instrumentation had to be tested and approved by U.S. EPA, at their labs in Research Triangle Park, Raleigh N.C. and given a designated reference or equivalency number before any data would be acceptable for entry into the national air data base.
Having these approval numbers alone, still doesn't guarantee that the air quality data from these instruments will be automatically considered good, valid and usedul. The air quality data owners need to first demonstrate to U.S. EPA that the instrumentation was also sited, calibrated, operated and quality assured properly for thermos which data are reported.
PJ1961: I fear you are correct about the usefulness of the readings. Have been watching the graphs off and on for two years and the only thing really discernible about the data was, yes, it's still negligible there, or it's spiking there, or, wow what a trend that city has... it'd be great to see a citizen group get together and with various types of instruments, including food lab machines, produce more informative test results. Like how much corium, strontium, plutonium, cesium, etc...
I have worked on more than a few public awareness programs providing air quality data to the public in useful ways by various media. Sometimes I wish it were smart to disclose our names on CS. Googling my name and EPA would return some interesting results (imo). It is good to see your interest in similar ambient air quality information.
this is why I asked you, specifically.. all your time there I figured you'd have some good insights. Thanks for your cooperative knowledge sharing.
galrads: I have worked on more than a few public awareness programs providing air quality data to the public in useful ways by various media. Sometimes I wish it were smart to disclose our names on CS. Googling my name and EPA would return some interesting results (imo). It is good to see your interest in similar ambient air quality information.
PJ1961: It doesn't matter who runs ENENews. It could be a solar or wind energy company, but, in this case, the messenger is not at all important, the news that is posted and the comments are all that matters.
"The news" is not necessarily "The truth". So it kinda does matter who's doing the talking. Especially when the source is hiding in the shadows.
RayfromUSA: "The news" is not necessarily "The truth". So it kinda does matter who's doing the talking. Especially when the source is hiding in the shadows.
I would agree with you, but, ENENews is not the source - they are posting articles from a wide variety of sources - scientific, political, IAEA, NRC, health magazines, NOAA... its' a wide array of sources.
RayfromUSA: "The news" is not necessarily "The truth". So it kinda does matter who's doing the talking. Especially when the source is hiding in the shadows.
If you can't trust the information or the source of information to any degree to be valid and you do or don't trust the messenger, then you are wasting your time. The whole show lacks integrity.
galrads: If you can't trust the information or the source of information to any degree to be valid and you do or don't trust the messenger, then you are wasting your time. The whole show lacks integrity.
More like, the whole TEPCO, IAEA, WHO, NRC circus is without shame... not sure why some of you miss the point that the news at ENENews is from multiple sources, nothing like an Alex Jones conspiracy sham.
Really too bad anyone would chance to dis the various sources.. how about, next time you want to do that you point out some exact articles and make light of why you feel that way. Might be a good exercise. We might learn something about POVs.
galrads: oh, that sounds like healthy and too much fun!
Good healthy fun my friend. I dove down at Tiri tiri Island and brought up some huge yummy mussells! Chucked in the lime and vinegar. Washed down of course with a nice Wheat beer.
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