I'm not an alcoholic EVER...but would you date an alcoholic? (127)
emerald888: trust no one tru.
Look none of us are getting any younger, everyone has a past, no one is perfect.
Don't think anymore should be disregarded because they have addiction issues. Some people are very successful in there recovery.
....true......(some).....as you say we are all getting older.....perhaps spending the rest of your life...being a crutch.....for someone else,s problems....risky......jmo.Look none of us are getting any younger, everyone has a past, no one is perfect.
Don't think anymore should be disregarded because they have addiction issues. Some people are very successful in there recovery.
truheart1941: ....true......(some).....as you say we are all getting older.....perhaps spending the rest of your life...being a crutch.....for someone else,s problems....risky......jmo.
I know what your saying but if everyone had that attitude there would be a lot of lonely people in the world tru. Some people go on to live happy fulfilling lives after addiction.
emerald888: I know what your saying but if everyone had that attitude there would be a lot of lonely people in the world tru. Some people go on to live happy fulfilling lives after addiction.
A few may, personally I think there is no cure for alcoholism for most people and there are a lot of people in denial who consider themselves social drinkers when they are at risk verging on alcoholism.
emerald888: I know what your saying but if everyone had that attitude there would be a lot of lonely people in the world tru. Some people go on to live happy fulfilling lives after addiction.
...again true.....but drinking....pushing needles....whatever addiction you have....doesent improve that life......only by faceing your problems with a clear head...can one hope to succeed...just look at the comments on here....some ladys haved really loved their partner,s....but to no aveil.......
emerald888: I know what your saying but if everyone had that attitude there would be a lot of lonely people in the world tru. Some people go on to live happy fulfilling lives after addiction.
tomcatwarne: A few may, personally I think there is no cure for alcoholism for most people and there are a lot of people in denial who consider themselves social drinkers when they are at risk verging on alcoholism.
Complete Abstinence once that Line has been crossed!truheart1941: ...again true.....but drinking....pushing needles....whatever addiction you have....doesent improve that life......only by faceing your problems with a clear head...can one hope to succeed...just look at the comments on here....some ladys haved really loved their partner,s....but to no aveil.......
Oh I know tru. I am not saying I am looking for someone with addiction I'm just saying that some people deserve a second chance especially if they have proven themselves.
Can't cast people away because there not perfect.
tomcatwarne: A few may, personally I think there is no cure for alcoholism for most people and there are a lot of people in denial who consider themselves social drinkers when they are at risk verging on alcoholism.
I call these functional alcoholics.
My point from my first post was i would rather some lad say, hand up i am an alcoholic I am in recovery. Than the lad that claims to be a social drinker but he's in the pub every night.
Conrad73: Complete Abstinence once that Line has been crossed!
Some people attain complete abstinence, but to some addicts it is an unattainable goal, I have seen first hand that even a horrific death impending cannot deter some addicts.
emerald888: Oh I know tru. I am not saying I am looking for someone with addiction I'm just saying that some people deserve a second chance especially if they have proven themselves.
Can't cast people away because there not perfect.
Can't cast people away because there not perfect.
So true if we all waited for "perfect" the world would be populated by sad lonely people.
justjim63: So true if we all waited for "perfect" the world would be populated by sad lonely people.
I´m not waiting for "perfect", there´s no such thing. But, you have to think about what you can live with. I´ve got no problem with my bloke having a beer or two every now and again - but when it´s every night, and it becomes more important than anything else in the whole world, then that's the time to think about whether it´s actually worth it...
justjim63: So true if we all waited for "perfect" the world would be populated by sad lonely people.
..hi J/J....that's true.....regards,,,(perfection)....no one is....I,m lonely..(age)......but hitting the bottle would,nt change the way things are.......would they....just have to to face up to life....and hope.
truheart1941: ...again true.....but drinking....pushing needles....whatever addiction you have....doesent improve that life......only by faceing your problems with a clear head...can one hope to succeed...just look at the comments on here....some ladys haved really loved their partner,s....but to no aveil.......
janeinspain: I´m not waiting for "perfect", there´s no such thing. But, you have to think about what you can live with. I´ve got no problem with my bloke having a beer or two every now and again - but when it´s every night, and it becomes more important than anything else in the whole world, then that's the time to think about whether it´s actually worth it...
You're absolutely right jane. None of us is perfect but then that doesn't mean that you shouldn't settle for less than perfect for you.
janeinspain: I´m not waiting for "perfect", there´s no such thing. But, you have to think about what you can live with. I´ve got no problem with my bloke having a beer or two every now and again - but when it´s every night, and it becomes more important than anything else in the whole world, then that's the time to think about whether it´s actually worth it...
You mean change him.
truheart1941: ..hi J/J....that's true.....regards,,,(perfection)....no one is....I,m lonely..(age)......but hitting the bottle would,nt change the way things are.......would they....just have to to face up to life....and hope.
G'day Tru, how are you mate?
Hope, without it we have nothing. tomcatwarne: A few may, personally I think there is no cure for alcoholism for most people and there are a lot of people in denial who consider themselves social drinkers when they are at risk verging on alcoholism.
You are 100% correct. There is no "cure" but some of them are in "recovery" and they are the ones who know there is no cure, that they will always be an alcoholic.
I was married to an alcoholic. When he was sober he was the nicest person on earth but when he was drunk he was the exact opposite and very dangerous because he had guns in the house.
The difficult part is deciding if he drinks too much as a social drinker or he drinks every night because his body craves it. When you see him drinking every morning, it's time to decide if you should stay or you should leave.
If you stay, don't think he will stop drinking because he loves you. The only way he will stop drinking is because he wants to. Nothing else matters to an alcoholic but the next drink.
montemonte: You are 100% correct. There is no "cure" but some of them are in "recovery" and they are the ones who know there is no cure, that they will always be an alcoholic.I was married to an alcoholic. When he was sober he was the nicest person on earth but when he was drunk he was the exact opposite and very dangerous because he had guns in the house.
The difficult part is deciding if he drinks too much as a social drinker or he drinks every night because his body craves it. When you see him drinking every morning, it's time to decide if you should stay or you should leave.
If you stay, don't think he will stop drinking because he loves you. The only way he will stop drinking is because he wants to. Nothing else matters to an alcoholic but the next drink.
The difficult part is deciding if he drinks too much as a social drinker or he drinks every night because his body craves it. When you see him drinking every morning, it's time to decide if you should stay or you should leave.
If you stay, don't think he will stop drinking because he loves you. The only way he will stop drinking is because he wants to. Nothing else matters to an alcoholic but the next drink.
Abso -blooming-lutely. There´s nothing quite like the wake up call you get when you see your bloke chugging whiskey for breakfast....
montemonte: You are 100% correct. There is no "cure" but some of them are in "recovery" and they are the ones who know there is no cure, that they will always be an alcoholic.I was married to an alcoholic. When he was sober he was the nicest person on earth but when he was drunk he was the exact opposite and very dangerous because he had guns in the house.
The difficult part is deciding if he drinks too much as a social drinker or he drinks every night because his body craves it. When you see him drinking every morning, it's time to decide if you should stay or you should leave.
If you stay, don't think he will stop drinking because he loves you. The only way he will stop drinking is because he wants to. Nothing else matters to an alcoholic but the next drink.
A social drinker to my mind ,is one,who drinks a glass of wine/or one beer with his meal at home,and in social gatherings,that much,ad he can drive home safely.The difficult part is deciding if he drinks too much as a social drinker or he drinks every night because his body craves it. When you see him drinking every morning, it's time to decide if you should stay or you should leave.
If you stay, don't think he will stop drinking because he loves you. The only way he will stop drinking is because he wants to. Nothing else matters to an alcoholic but the next drink.
This is a real alcoholic guy I know. He is a labour,but he loves alcohol so much that he need have spirits all the 3 meals. Even in the breakfast, you don't have any dishes at all, he is thirsty for a drink, which sometimes can mean 250ml, and evening meal, he could get double or 3 times of that. And he need drives back home. So one evening, he had a meal in a shabby restaurant, as his wife would not like him to drink that much at home,this time he drank around 500ml alcohol.And together with his tractor, he drove into a 3 meters deep pit, dramatically, he only got some scratches on his forehead, and nose, which the next day people saw him sticked with some bandaids on those scratches. And the tractor, just fell into pieces.
But can he stop drinking alcohol? NO
But can he stop drinking alcohol? NO
peonyjenny: This is a real alcoholic guy I know. He is a labour,but he loves alcohol so much that he need have spirits all the 3 meals. Even in the breakfast, you don't have any dishes at all, he is thirsty for a drink, which sometimes can mean 250ml, and evening meal, he could get double or 3 times of that. And he need drives back home. So one evening, he had a meal in a shabby restaurant, as his wife would not like him to drink that much at home,this time he drank around 500ml alcohol.And together with his tractor, he drove into a 3 meters deep pit, dramatically, he only got some scratches on his forehead, and nose, which the next day people saw him sticked with some bandaids on those scratches. And the tractor, just fell into pieces.
But can he stop drinking alcohol? NO
But can he stop drinking alcohol? NO
Tis might seem amusing to some, I just hope he doesn't end up seriously injuring himself, or someone else. This introduces another dimension to alcoholism. The drink and drive, not everyone does this of course but alcohol takes away your judgement.
truheart1941: ...I,m addictive to love......is there a cure for that....??????/
NO known cure, totally addictive and fatal
tomcatwarne: Some people attain complete abstinence, but to some addicts it is an unattainable goal, I have seen first hand that even a horrific death impending cannot deter some addicts.
yes,the recovery-rate isn't too good!About three out of a hundred make it past five years!
Guess Carl Jung was right when he told Rowland H. right here in Zurich,that the only thing that could possibly save him from his Addiction was a "Spiritual Experience"!
This labour also has some friends,all guys,after their work,these guys just loved to gather together, as they are labours, so that they don't earn much. But they decided to share a meal together. So that everyone will split the bill. So one evening,8guys gathered together. As most of them need drove tractors back, some slightly wise ones said no more after each of them already consumed 250ml. But one guy who couldnot afford to buy a tractor, he need rode his motorcycle back. He was also alcoholic. He really liked alcohol so much, that evening, he would not give up drinking more even the other guys said: we need drove back, let's stop drinking more alcohol. He persuaded one of the other guy and drank with him another 250ml. Then they drove home, but this guy rode his motorcycle and banged his head on the foot of a bridge.
And immediately he was sent to the hospital, he was so poor that he could not pay the hospital bill, that his relative paid this hospital bill, but nothing could help. He died.
And he left 2 kids,5,3 years old to his wife.
Alcoholic is fatal.
And immediately he was sent to the hospital, he was so poor that he could not pay the hospital bill, that his relative paid this hospital bill, but nothing could help. He died.
And he left 2 kids,5,3 years old to his wife.
Alcoholic is fatal.
Conrad73: yes,the recovery-rate isn't too good!
About three out of a hundred make it past five years!
Guess Carl Jung was right when he told Rowland H. right here in Zurich,that the only thing that could possibly save him from his Addiction was a "Spiritual Experience"!
About three out of a hundred make it past five years!
Guess Carl Jung was right when he told Rowland H. right here in Zurich,that the only thing that could possibly save him from his Addiction was a "Spiritual Experience"!
I'll forgive you that pun Conrad.And this alcoholic guy who rode the motorcycle died.This is not the end.
So his families and relatives found all the other 7 guys and asking for compensation.So finally the other 7 guys each one compensated the deceased guy's family each 50pounds.
AS the dead guy did insist on drinking alcohol himself.
So if people are having dinner with alcoholic guys,do take care.Making sure, if they burn their own house, your house is not next to his.
So his families and relatives found all the other 7 guys and asking for compensation.So finally the other 7 guys each one compensated the deceased guy's family each 50pounds.
AS the dead guy did insist on drinking alcohol himself.
So if people are having dinner with alcoholic guys,do take care.Making sure, if they burn their own house, your house is not next to his.
No I have seen the damage it can do to people lives first hand.
maybe it's not considered a cure, but I've known a few people who had addictions to drugs or alcohol who turned their lives over to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. They were at their rope's end and found the strength to quit. They now live normal lives and thank God everyday. There are__ some success stories out there, they found that it's hard to stumble when you're on your knees.
Nope. 
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Humans seem to need an escape mechanism and blow is a good deal more benevolent than the destructive properties of alcohol. Alcohol is perpetuated and tolerated because it is such a money spinner for government and business, what do they care is a few thousand people die a horrible death as long as the cash registers keep ringing.
Agree with you totally.