tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
Torless: Altho, some alcholics can be hard to pick sometimes.. as most are in denial.
I fell in love with a alcoholic, all the lies deception denial, even when the alcoholism developed into alcoholic psychosis the self denial continued and she wrecked the lives of those around her. but she was sweet and lovable in her rare sober moments. I did not give up on her for a long time, but eventually I had to jump ship, for my own survival, I still love her and still feel guilty I couldn't save her. She is now gravely ill and will die.
TorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,499 posts
tomcatwarne: I fell in love with a alcoholic, all the lies deception denial, even when the alcoholism developed into alcoholic psychosis the self denial continued and she wrecked the lives of those around her. but she was sweet and lovable in her rare sober moments. I did not give up on her for a long time, but eventually I had to jump ship, for my own survival, I still love her and still feel guilty I couldn't save her. She is now gravely ill and will die.
sorry to hear that, but you arent responsible. I imagine she now has end stage cirrhosis, which is how they go.and its not a nice way either from what I hear.
tomcatwarne: I fell in love with a alcoholic, all the lies deception denial, even when the alcoholism developed into alcoholic psychosis the self denial continued and she wrecked the lives of those around her. but she was sweet and lovable in her rare sober moments. I did not give up on her for a long time, but eventually I had to jump ship, for my own survival, I still love her and still feel guilty I couldn't save her. She is now gravely ill and will die.
tomcatwarne: I fell in love with a alcoholic, all the lies deception denial, even when the alcoholism developed into alcoholic psychosis the self denial continued and she wrecked the lives of those around her. but she was sweet and lovable in her rare sober moments. I did not give up on her for a long time, but eventually I had to jump ship, for my own survival, I still love her and still feel guilty I couldn't save her. She is now gravely ill and will die.
Whoa, sorry to hear that, very tough to live with before and after.
NotABlondeSpringwood, New South Wales Australia1,210 posts
Whenever a guy contacts me, either on here or other dating sites, first thing I do is see if they smoke, second is see how often they put down that they drink.
Then I go through their photos, if they're holding cans, bottles or most photos are taken in a bar I avoid them like the plague.
I drink very rarely and don't want to date someone just so they've got a designated driver.
tomcatwarne: I fell in love with a alcoholic, all the lies deception denial, even when the alcoholism developed into alcoholic psychosis the self denial continued and she wrecked the lives of those around her. but she was sweet and lovable in her rare sober moments. I did not give up on her for a long time, but eventually I had to jump ship, for my own survival, I still love her and still feel guilty I couldn't save her. She is now gravely ill and will die.
I'm hearing you tom
I fell in love with a man some years ago, and in a very short time recognized his problems.
But he was charismatic, delightful, interesting, fun, educated, well-travelled and all the things I wanted in a man.
Except his first wretched love, and need, was alcohol and during the four years I tried to be with him, I thought to myself that one day he will recover and someone else will get the best of him, the beautiful man that he was meant to be.
I left that situation several years ago and he left this life last year, having taken his own life.
So no one got the best of him, least of all himself.
NotABlondeSpringwood, New South Wales Australia1,210 posts
serene56: I'm hearing you tom
I fell in love with a man some years ago, and in a very short time recognized his problems.
But he was charismatic, delightful, interesting, fun, educated, well-travelled and all the things I wanted in a man.
Except his first wretched love, and need, was alcohol and during the four years I tried to be with him, I thought to myself that one day he will recover and someone else will get the best of him, the beautiful man that he was meant to be.
I left that situation several years ago and he left this life last year, having taken his own life.
So no one got the best of him, least of all himself.
Yes it is NAB and it's taking a while to come to terms with, even though I had not seen him for a while.
But I gave him my best under very difficult circumstances, and I know we had some amazing times that he loved and they remained in his memory so I'm glad I brought some happiness into his life.
And I'm grateful that I learned of his death and was there to say goodbye
...I,..live the simple life....yes I smoke..but don't drink/gamble......love life....love to share.....the good things in life......taken a few knocks in life...but still standing.....
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
serene56: I'm hearing you tom
I fell in love with a man some years ago, and in a very short time recognized his problems.
But he was charismatic, delightful, interesting, fun, educated, well-travelled and all the things I wanted in a man.
Except his first wretched love, and need, was alcohol and during the four years I tried to be with him, I thought to myself that one day he will recover and someone else will get the best of him, the beautiful man that he was meant to be.
I left that situation several years ago and he left this life last year, having taken his own life.
So no one got the best of him, least of all himself.
And no, I would not date another.
I understand what you went through, sometimes people don't appreciate the complete change an alcoholic can go through when drinking, an otherwise lovable person can become a real monster and destroy everything around them, including the ones they love.
serene56: Yes it is NAB and it's taking a while to come to terms with, even though I had not seen him for a while.
But I gave him my best under very difficult circumstances, and I know we had some amazing times that he loved and they remained in his memory so I'm glad I brought some happiness into his life.
And I'm grateful that I learned of his death and was there to say goodbye
....sorry to hear that..S...always knew you were a lovely person.....
serene56: Yes it is NAB and it's taking a while to come to terms with, even though I had not seen him for a while.
But I gave him my best under very difficult circumstances, and I know we had some amazing times that he loved and they remained in his memory so I'm glad I brought some happiness into his life.
And I'm grateful that I learned of his death and was there to say goodbye
yes it is sad having to watch someone destroying themselves,and there isn't a thing you can say or do to stop them!
StandardsFirst: Would you ever date a alcoholic? I would never.Not so bad if got a BIT carried away with social drinking WHEN stressed and then stopped but I would still worry about that.
Depends what they were drinking. Nothing worse than an alcoholic that drinks the stuff I don’t like.
Conrad73: yes it is sad having to watch someone destroying themselves,and there isn't a thing you can say or do to stop them!
So true Conrad and perhaps the saddest thing surrounding his funeral was where people were talking about all the things they offered to help him with, work, accommodation .. and basically just hope
So shocking, no one really understood just how wretched he was feeling.
StandardsFirst: Would you ever date a alcoholic? I would never.Not so bad if got a BIT carried away with social drinking WHEN stressed and then stopped but I would still worry about that.
I suppose it would depend how long they are in recovery.
I would rather date a guy who has been honest about his addiction than a guy who says he is a social drinker, holds up the bar 5 nights and week and falls out of it the other two nights.
emerald888: I suppose it would depend how long they are in recovery.
I would rather date a guy who has been honest about his addiction than a guy who says he is a social drinker, holds up the bar 5 nights and week and falls out of it the other two nights.
I fell in love with a man some years ago, and in a very short time recognized his problems.
But he was charismatic, delightful, interesting, fun, educated, well-travelled and all the things I wanted in a man.
Except his first wretched love, and need, was alcohol and during the four years I tried to be with him, I thought to myself that one day he will recover and someone else will get the best of him, the beautiful man that he was meant to be.
I left that situation several years ago and he left this life last year, having taken his own life.
So no one got the best of him, least of all himself.
And no, I would not date another.
I'm sorry to hear that, there are so many people here and everywhere that have been affected by alcohol. Some people still deny that it is not a drug, but it is, and one of the worst ones. cheers.
serene56: So true Conrad and perhaps the saddest thing surrounding his funeral was where people were talking about all the things they offered to help him with, work, accommodation .. and basically just hope So shocking, no one really understood just how wretched he was feeling.
Yes,he wasn't able to accept that help! Unless an Alcoholic becomes willing to accept the Fact of his/Her Alcoholism,there is no possible way to get out of it! No power on this Earth can stop them!
Never again. My husband was an alcoholic, and it killed him in the end - he just dropped down dead at home. The saddest thing is that he was the best, absolute best man I ever met, and even though this was 30 years ago I still think about him, and curse the day he first tasted whiskey.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
emerald888: trust no one tru.
Look none of us are getting any younger, everyone has a past, no one is perfect.
Don't think anymore should be disregarded because they have addiction issues. Some people are very successful in there recovery.
I am in favour of the legalisation of soft drugs, well they are practically legal now in the UK for personal use.
Humans seem to need an escape mechanism and blow is a good deal more benevolent than the destructive properties of alcohol. Alcohol is perpetuated and tolerated because it is such a money spinner for government and business, what do they care is a few thousand people die a horrible death as long as the cash registers keep ringing.
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