What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness. (68)

Jan 25, 2015 4:28 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
Ccincy: I doubt if there is a quick fix anywhere in the world in regards to poverty or homelessness.


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Jan 25, 2015 5:01 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
RainComeShine
RainComeShineRainComeShineDevon, England UK22 Threads 22 Polls 425 Posts
Maybe Homelessness should be debated in schools so that if they're facing it as a young adult they might have some idea how to deal with it or how to 'work hard to rectify the problem'.

There should be a poll or blog on this subject alone. Obviously much has been learnt by the professionals who are commenting. We can accept that it happens regardless but when we see it increasing so dramatically surely there has to be a line of thought to help prevent it.
Jan 25, 2015 5:13 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
some things that effect (or is it affect) poverty and homelessness

government stability (coups, revolutions, civil war)

access to resources, (water, food crops)

free education with access for all diverse types

fiscal policies that fit the community to help families

Family friendly workplaces and flexible work schedules to coincide with school schedules so that families can be productive in work and still work together as a family.
Jan 25, 2015 5:16 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
I'm not a professional RainComeshine but I know what it felt like to had been homeless with my late husband and son.
Jan 25, 2015 5:20 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
Ccincy: I'm not a professional RainComeshine but I know what it felt like to had been homeless with my late husband and son.


And you have risen above it.
Jan 25, 2015 7:06 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
LoveRanger52
LoveRanger52LoveRanger52Bolivar, Missouri USA8 Threads 5 Polls 91 Posts
RainComeShine: Ok but what would help the most? Maybe the homeless person's relatives and children get taken on the same journey and that can't be right.


you will find that most homeless individuals with families and friends have burnt the candle at both ends with them, and there is no fixing, they are like a broken record crying wolf.

The total problems that Society as a whole just want to be left alone so they can enjoy their lives. They work hard , pay tons of taxes are raising their children and expect the government or churches to finance the burden.

Humanity is an expensive proposition, and when you have thousands if not millions crying out Wolf for too long, it just falls on deaf ears and scumbag Politicians who need the Poor and weak Minority votes, and nothing more.

If you really want to help and truly searching for a real answer? go find one needy family that truly has value and help them...if everyone did this one thing, the world might have a chance to overcome
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Jan 25, 2015 7:33 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
Lower taxes, will goes a long way to preventing poverty and
homelessness. I know because I had to send someone down the
road when the taxes made it impossible to make a profit.
Jan 26, 2015 7:13 AM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
The best solution would be voluntary birth control. "Voluntary" is the obstacle. Too many people can multiply, but they can't add.
Jan 26, 2015 8:36 AM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
RainComeShine
RainComeShineRainComeShineDevon, England UK22 Threads 22 Polls 425 Posts
Ccincy: I'm not a professional RainComeshine but I know what it felt like to had been homeless with my late husband and son.
I've been there too and my mother had an award for her help in the community.

It is a big and varied problem and help shouldn't be just for Christmas! doh confused handshake
Jan 26, 2015 8:40 AM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
RainComeShine
RainComeShineRainComeShineDevon, England UK22 Threads 22 Polls 425 Posts
Lower taxes, will goes a long way to preventing poverty and
homelessness. I know because I had to send someone down the
road when the taxes made it impossible to make a profit.[/quote Some people are just no good with money and no matter how much money is thrown at them they still manage to lose it so reducing taxes may not be the most obvious solution.
Jan 26, 2015 10:47 AM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
RainComeShine
RainComeShineRainComeShineDevon, England UK22 Threads 22 Polls 425 Posts
Only half of the previous message is mine. Very confusing and best dismissed all together. lol
Jan 26, 2015 10:50 AM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
bungallow55
bungallow55bungallow55Lakeland, Florida USA238 Threads 10 Polls 3,837 Posts
The 1% gives, the 1% takes
Jan 26, 2015 4:41 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
xxDandelionxx
xxDandelionxxxxDandelionxxunknown, Hampshire, England UK8 Threads 2,525 Posts
What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness?

Probably all of those, and some more besides. The Government is best placed to use any/all of those measures to improve things. Shame its not part of their remit?
Jan 26, 2015 9:22 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
RainComeShine
RainComeShineRainComeShineDevon, England UK22 Threads 22 Polls 425 Posts
xxDandelionxx: What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness?

Probably all of those, and some more besides. The Government is best placed to use any/all of those measures to improve things. Shame its not part of their remit?
Unfortunately only one vote per person but I know you're right. handshake
Jan 27, 2015 10:56 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
kornbluth: The best solution would be voluntary birth control. "Voluntary" is the obstacle. Too many people can multiply, but they can't add.


doh and we are going to leave it to some government bureaucrat to make the decision on who should reproduce?

the one child family doesn't work for China, and they don't have a democracy. Also the fastest growing populations are the immigrants
Jan 27, 2015 10:58 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
prosperous business who employ and pay a fair equitable wage with sick leave and family leave and government provided free college education and affordable health care coverage, and uncorrupted banks and institutions, infrastructure to get our goods from coast to coast.....

a clean environment..... and on, and on, and on.
Jan 28, 2015 3:50 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
RainComeShine: I can hardly believe how working conditions have changed. Soon there will be no family life in the UK.

What is the answer?
Although there is no one factor, I believe that the rental housing market disenfranchises many. Even though we have H.U.D., Section 8, ICA, etc.. one can be low-income and just barely not qualify, and then NOT be able to get a rental because their income is too low to qualify for the non-qualifying rental rate. Also there are many who do qualify, and cannot get "in" because of the waiting lists. Rental problems keep low income people poor, or poorer. Because housing is more often the biggest chunk of an income (at least one third, and often half..) this problem is one of the prominent contributors to poverty and homelessness. I know that landlords feel rent control is unfair (it creates a difficult market for re-selling a property), I believe it is the answer. What is unfair about keeping a long-term faithful renter's fee doable? But currently, gentrification of a neighborhood, and it is happening all over, causes rates to skyrocket--gentrification allows for the landlord to raise the rent to "the area median", so a $500.00 a month studio apartment in a nice neighborhood suddenly increases to 1295.00. Outrageously unfair. This needs to be stopped. It literally throws hard-working, faithful long term renters into the street. Who can argue how blatantly wrong this is? I shy away from too much legislation, but this is one I think needs to be--
Jan 28, 2015 4:32 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
RainComeShine
RainComeShineRainComeShineDevon, England UK22 Threads 22 Polls 425 Posts
rohaan: Although there is no one factor, I believe that the rental housing market disenfranchises many. Even though we have H.U.D., Section 8, ICA, etc.. one can be low-income and just barely not qualify, and then NOT be able to get a rental because their income is too low to qualify for the non-qualifying rental rate. Also there are many who do qualify, and cannot get "in" because of the waiting lists. Rental problems keep low income people poor, or poorer. Because housing is more often the biggest chunk of an income (at least one third, and often half..) this problem is one of the prominent contributors to poverty and homelessness. I know that landlords feel rent control is unfair (it creates a difficult market for re-selling a property), I believe it is the answer. What is unfair about keeping a long-term faithful renter's fee doable? But currently, gentrification of a neighborhood, and it is happening all over, causes rates to skyrocket--gentrification allows for the landlord to raise the rent to "the area median", so a $500.00 a month studio apartment in a nice neighborhood suddenly increases to 1295.00. Outrageously unfair. This needs to be stopped. It literally throws hard-working, faithful long term renters into the street. Who can argue how blatantly wrong this is? I shy away from too much legislation, but this is one I think needs to be--
I think we call that the poverty trap here. But I must say I don't think it's quite as harsh here but Renters still get very little for their money. Having said that it is becoming increasingly difficult for anyone to manage their financial affairs in UK.
Jan 28, 2015 4:35 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
bungallow55
bungallow55bungallow55Lakeland, Florida USA238 Threads 10 Polls 3,837 Posts
RainComeShine: I can hardly believe how working conditions have changed. Soon there will be no family life in the UK.

What is the answer?


what do you mean with, "soon there will be no family life in UK?"
Jan 28, 2015 11:08 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
RainComeShine
RainComeShineRainComeShineDevon, England UK22 Threads 22 Polls 425 Posts
bungallow55: what do you mean with, "soon there will be no family life in UK?"
When the man comes home so the woman goes out to work and when both are out the children are left with minders/carers. The parents often have to do multiple jobs because we have a thing called zero hours contracts and most jobs are said to be temporary too.

Some of the more well paid jobs eg National Health Service etc offer long, unsociable hours and workers are enticed into taking them or even pressured into it because of the needs of the patients for example. The same is true to a degree with the legal profession and many others.

Both my children work from home but are working day and night so their children often have to be invisible.

Is it any wonder that kids bury their heads in computer games and alike?
Jan 30, 2015 2:53 AM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
Ken_19
Ken_19Ken_19Winchester, Virginia USA68 Threads 26 Polls 1,055 Posts
A world wide plague that wipes out 5/6 of the planet. There will be lots of vacant buildings after that and lots of no longer needed wallets filled with money in the pockets of all the corpses.
Jan 30, 2015 3:03 AM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
postneoludite
postneoluditepostneoluditeWest Vancouver, British Columbia Canada39 Threads 22 Polls 890 Posts
Some form of post-secondary education and a willingness to relocate certainly helps.
Jan 30, 2015 7:14 AM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
rohaan: Although there is no one factor, I believe that the rental housing market disenfranchises many. Even though we have H.U.D., Section 8, ICA, etc.. one can be low-income and just barely not qualify, and then NOT be able to get a rental because their income is too low to qualify for the non-qualifying rental rate. Also there are many who do qualify, and cannot get "in" because of the waiting lists. Rental problems keep low income people poor, or poorer. Because housing is more often the biggest chunk of an income (at least one third, and often half..) this problem is one of the prominent contributors to poverty and homelessness. I know that landlords feel rent control is unfair (it creates a difficult market for re-selling a property), I believe it is the answer. What is unfair about keeping a long-term faithful renter's fee doable? But currently, gentrification of a neighborhood, and it is happening all over, causes rates to skyrocket--gentrification allows for the landlord to raise the rent to "the area median", so a $500.00 a month studio apartment in a nice neighborhood suddenly increases to 1295.00. Outrageously unfair. This needs to be stopped. It literally throws hard-working, faithful long term renters into the street. Who can argue how blatantly wrong this is? I shy away from too much legislation, but this is one I think needs to be--


Interesting - I understand rent control works but only in small scale and limited areas. The reason is supply and demand model.

Landlords if the rent is too low, will not rent their unit at all. This will increase the demand for the rent controlled units, still producing a shortage of affordable housing.

The federal government programs rapid rehousing, Section 8, permanent supportive housing, Tenant based rental assistance, all require the person to be "eligible" usually homeless and must be a resident or citizen of the United States. There is still public housing, but the move is away from "projects" and ghettoization of housing.

Still a lot of strategies are used since the local and federal government in America realize that a plan must be developed and implemented, and that no one size fits all program will work. What is good in a large urban northern city might not work for a rural midwest farming area.
Jan 30, 2015 7:16 AM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
Ken_19: A world wide plague that wipes out 5/6 of the planet. There will be lots of vacant buildings after that and lots of no longer needed wallets filled with money in the pockets of all the corpses.


look at Detroit and other cities when the car industry went belly-up. However it's one thing to have a vacant building and another to have a job to support living in these properties.


Wall street did not do us any favors. nor did congress. moping
Jan 30, 2015 7:21 AM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
CapNemo
CapNemoCapNemoLongview, Texas USA6 Threads 599 Posts
Shoot Obama. May not be the right answer, but a lot of us sure will feel better.
Jan 30, 2015 7:25 AM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
bungallow55
bungallow55bungallow55Lakeland, Florida USA238 Threads 10 Polls 3,837 Posts
a nuclear war to end all misery in this worldbeer
Jan 30, 2015 7:26 AM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
bungallow55
bungallow55bungallow55Lakeland, Florida USA238 Threads 10 Polls 3,837 Posts
CapNemo: Shoot Obama. May not be the right answer, but a lot of us sure will feel better.


I would say, Bush Jr. first
Jan 30, 2015 2:59 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
JeanKimberley: Interesting - I understand rent control works but only in small scale and limited areas. The reason is supply and demand model.

Landlords if the rent is too low, will not rent their unit at all. This will increase the demand for the rent controlled units, still producing a shortage of affordable housing.

The federal government programs rapid rehousing, Section 8, permanent supportive housing, Tenant based rental assistance, all require the person to be "eligible" usually homeless and must be a resident or citizen of the United States. There is still public housing, but the move is away from "projects" and ghettoization of housing.

Still a lot of strategies are used since the local and federal government in America realize that a plan must be developed and implemented, and that no one size fits all program will work. What is good in a large urban northern city might not work for a rural midwest farming area.
There are certainly always going to be variables in every market, whether it is produce, electronics, clothing, or housing. Here is what potentially happens (as it did in Portland, Oregon in the early to mid-1980's): employment largely "booms", and now, hurrah, there are thousands of yuppies making lotsa dough. Yippee skippee. Then guess what happens? Why, downsizing, of course. And, these same engineers, programmer analysts, comptrollers, whatever, are out of work or forced to accept much lower wages. Not enough money to pay those smarmy apartment and loft fees, often with added cooperative costs. So, now we have these nifty little living spaces no one can afford. Brilliant. (Friends of mine were able to negotiate a much, much lower fee on their two bedroom apartment in South Portland because of this). Of course, that was then, but it could, and most likely will, happen again. Hint: Avarice will ALWAYS lose, after all. Mark my word.
Jan 30, 2015 8:43 PM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
arapaho
arapahoarapahobrisbane, Queensland Australia3 Threads 678 Posts
No end to poverty as long as there's greed in the world,
Jan 31, 2015 12:01 AM CST What will most help prevent poverty and homelessness.
RainComeShine
RainComeShineRainComeShineDevon, England UK22 Threads 22 Polls 425 Posts
arapaho: No end to poverty as long as there's greed in the world,
You have a point but maybe we should keep trying to think of a way to curb the greed. handshake
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