Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration? (59)

Feb 9, 2017 10:56 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
The fact that your grandchildren could be born with blond hair and blue eyes, should concern you more than what colour eyes your grandparents had.
Feb 9, 2017 11:38 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
lifeisadream
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mykingdomforanam: The fact that your grandchildren could be born with blond hair and blue eyes, should concern you more than what colour eyes your grandparents had.


Concerned about hair-eye color?
not all

not of anyone

mykingdomforanam: You can also look up... "The First Americans Were Europeans."




Look up for Amerindians genetic markers from some recent Journal of genetics.



coffee
Feb 9, 2017 12:49 PM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
GUZMAN1
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mykingdomforanam: Not only did the Romans conquer Europe, they moved the aboriginal people to other places.

The new conquerors will probably put white people on reservations... I mean the white people who survive the genocide.


This cycle will keep going, as long as people try to take advantage of other races

North America was inhabited by white people, when the "Native Americans" crossed the Siberian land bridge.

Check " white people in Paiute and native American legends."

South America was inhabited by Austailian/Polynesians, when they got there from Siberia.

The "Native Americans" wiped out all the white people, and most of the Polynesians from 3 continents.

There's only traces of Polynesian DNA to be found in a few people, in the Amazon forest, and Tierra Del Fuego.



The romans didn't move people to reservations after a genocide. They conquered and ruled.
Feb 9, 2017 5:57 PM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
This week, two teams of scientists released reports detailing the origins of Native American peoples. Both groups looked at ancient and modern DNA to attempt to learn more about the movements of populations from Asia into the New World, and about how groups mixed once they got here. Both discovered a hint that some Native Americans in South America share ancestry with native peoples in Australia and Melanesia.

Scientists don't have DNA samples from Native Americans dating from around 12,000 to 24,000 years ago. But should they secure a sample, they might be able to sequence it and search for hints of the Australo-Melanesian DNA.

"If we find that signal, OK -- there's our answer," he said.

Feb 9, 2017 10:05 PM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
"The romans didn't move people to reservations after a genocide. They conquered and ruled.5 hours ago"


I saw it on the History channel years ago...

I spent a few hours searching for "forced migrations," and all the other synonyms I could think of for it...

But I couldn't even find the Jewish Babylonian forced migration until I searched for "Jewish captivity."

I don't remember the name of the people the Romans moved to the east of Rome; but I remember learning about them.

If you need me to post sources for a debate, I'll concede that point, rather than spending another hour searching for a link just to prove it to you.

I believe my point was made without a reference to Romans anyway.
Feb 9, 2017 10:56 PM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
rizlared
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mykingdomforanam: Not only did the Romans conquer Europe, they moved the aboriginal people to other places.

The new conquerors will probably put white people on reservations... I mean the white people who survive the genocide.

This cycle will keep going, as long as people try to take advantage of other races

North America was inhabited by white people, when the "Native Americans" crossed the Siberian land bridge.

Check " white people in Paiute and native American legends."

South America was inhabited by Austailian/Polynesians, when they got there from Siberia.

The "Native Americans" wiped out all the white people, and most of the Polynesians from 3 continents.

There's only traces of Polynesian DNA to be found in a few people, in the Amazon forest, and Tierra Del Fuego.



The Romans never "conquered" Europe, they tried, but some countries were never conquered.

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Those that walked across the Siberian land bridge were not "white" they were dark skinned or possibly the same colour as Orientals
Feb 10, 2017 1:29 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
Some of the earliest humans to inhabit America came from Europe according to a new book Across Atlantic Ice: The Origin of America’s Clovis Culture. The book puts forward a compelling case for people from northern Spain traveling to America by boat, following the edge of a sea ice shelf that connected Europe and America during the last Ice Age, 14,000 to 25,000 years ago."Across Atlantic Ice : The Origin of America's Clovis Culture" Across Atlantic Ice is the result of more than a decade’s research by leading archaeologists Bruce Bradley of the University of Exeter in the United Kingdom, and Dennis Stanford of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History in Washington, D.C. Through archaeological evidence, they turn the long-held theory of the origins of New World populations on its head. For more than 400 years, it has been claimed that people first entered America from Asia, via a land bridge that spanned the Bering Sea. We now know that some people did arrive via this route nearly 15,000 years ago, probably by both land and sea. Eighty years ago, stone tools long believed to have been left by the first New World inhabitants were discovered in New Mexico and named Clovis. These distinctive Clovis stone tools are now dated around 12,000 years ago leading to the recognition that people preceded Clovis into the Americas. No Clovis tools have been found in Alaska or Northeast Asia, but are concentrated in the south eastern United States. Groundbreaking discoveries from the east coast of North America are demonstrating that people who are believed to be Clovis ancestors arrived in this area no later than 18,450 years ago and possibly as early as 23,000 years ago, probably in boats from Europe.

Feb 10, 2017 1:29 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
Some of the earliest humans to inhabit America came from Europe according to a new book Across Atlantic Ice: The Origin of America’s Clovis Culture. The book puts forward a compelling case for people from northern Spain traveling to America by boat, following the edge of a sea ice shelf that connected Europe and America during the last Ice Age, 14,000 to 25,000 years ago."Across Atlantic Ice : The Origin of America's Clovis Culture" Across Atlantic Ice is the result of more than a decade’s research by leading archaeologists Bruce Bradley of the University of Exeter in the United Kingdom, and Dennis Stanford of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History in Washington, D.C. Through archaeological evidence, they turn the long-held theory of the origins of New World populations on its head. For more than 400 years, it has been claimed that people first entered America from Asia, via a land bridge that spanned the Bering Sea. We now know that some people did arrive via this route nearly 15,000 years ago, probably by both land and sea. Eighty years ago, stone tools long believed to have been left by the first New World inhabitants were discovered in New Mexico and named Clovis. These distinctive Clovis stone tools are now dated around 12,000 years ago leading to the recognition that people preceded Clovis into the Americas. No Clovis tools have been found in Alaska or Northeast Asia, but are concentrated in the south eastern United States. Groundbreaking discoveries from the east coast of North America are demonstrating that people who are believed to be Clovis ancestors arrived in this area no later than 18,450 years ago and possibly as early as 23,000 years ago, probably in boats from Europe.

Feb 10, 2017 1:38 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
First Americans May Have Been European

ST. LOUIS—The first humans to spread across North America may have been seal hunters from France and Spain.

This runs counter to the long-held belief that the first human entry into the Americas was a crossing of a land-ice bridge that spanned the Bering Strait about 13,500 years ago.

Feb 10, 2017 1:43 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
Bogart_1960
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JohnnyBoy314: Is Islam logging in with the purpose of overthrow from within, as they have done in the historical past?



OP username checks out laugh


btw, Constantinople is in Europe.. for sure. but syphilis might have come to Europe from the Americas.


now you know.
Feb 10, 2017 2:00 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
Comanches

Chief Rolling Thunder of the Comanches, a tribe from the Great Plains, gave the following account of an ancient race of white giants in 1857:

“Innumerable moons ago, a race of white men, 10 feet high, and far more rich and powerful than any white people now living, here inhabited a large range of country, extending from the rising to the setting sun. Their fortifications crowned the summits of the mountains, protecting their populous cities situated in the intervening valleys.

“They excelled every other nation which was flourished, either before or since, in all manner of cunning handicraft—were brave and warlike—ruling over the land they had wrested from its ancient possessors with a high and haughty hand. Compared with them the palefaces of the present day were pygmies, in both art and arms. …”

The chief explained that when this race forgot justice and mercy and became too proud, the Great Spirit wiped it out and all that was left of their society were the mounds still visible on the tablelands.

This account was documented by Dr. Donald “Panther” Yates, a researcher and author of books on Native American history, on his blog.
Feb 10, 2017 2:05 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
Choctaw

Horatio Bardwell Cushman wrote in his 1899 book “History of the Choctaw, Chickasaw, and Natchez Indians”:

“The tradition of the Choctaws . . . told of a race of giants that once inhabited the now State of Tennessee, and with whom their ancestors fought when they arrived in Mississippi in their migration from the west. …

Their tradition states the Nahullo (race of giants) was of wonderful stature.”

Cushman said “Nahullo” came to be used to describe all white people, but it originally referred specifically to a giant white race with whom the Choctaw came into contact when they first crossed the Mississippi River.
Feb 10, 2017 2:09 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
Bogart_1960
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mykingdomforanam: Choctaw

Horatio Bardwell Cushman wrote in his 1899 book “History of the Choctaw, Chickasaw, and Natchez Indians”:

“The tradition of the Choctaws . . . told of a race of giants that once inhabited the now State of Tennessee, and with whom their ancestors fought when they arrived in Mississippi in their migration from the west. …

Their tradition states the Nahullo (race of giants) was of wonderful stature.”

Cushman said “Nahullo” came to be used to describe all white people, but it originally referred specifically to a giant white race with whom the Choctaw came into contact when they first crossed the Mississippi River.



thumbs up people should read more . very interesting cheers
Feb 10, 2017 2:18 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
Paiute

According to the Paiutes, the Si-Te-Cah were a red-haired band of cannibalistic giants.

The Si-Te-Cah and the Paiutes were at war, and after a long struggle a coalition of tribes trapped the remaining Si-Te-Cah in Lovelock Cave. When they refused to come out, the Indians piled brush before the cave mouth and set it aflame. The Si-Te-Cah were annihilated.

Sarah Winnemucca Hopkins, daughter of Paiute Chief Winnemucca, wrote about what she described as "a small tribe of barbarians" who ate her people in her book Life Among the Piutes: Their Wrongs and Claims - she wrote that "after my people had killed them all, the people round us called us Say-do-carah. It means conqueror; it also means "enemy."

"My people say that the tribe we exterminated had reddish hair. I have some of their hair, which has been handed down from father to son. I have a dress which has been in our family a great many years, trimmed with the reddish hair. I am going to wear it some time when I lecture. It is called a mourning dress, and no one has such a dress but my family."

Hopkins does not mention giants.



Si-Te-Cah - Wikipedia
Wikipedia › wiki › Si-Te-Cah
"Si-Te-Cah" literally means “tule-eaters” in the language of the Paiute Indians. Tule is a fibrous water plant.
Feb 10, 2017 3:01 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
Notice how the ones who committed the genocide said, "The Great Spirit took them?" and/or, "They were cannibals?"

But the name the Paiutes called them while they were still alive was... Tule eaters?

Root eaters?

What an odd name for Paiutes to call "cannibals," who they claim ate their children...
Feb 10, 2017 3:15 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
They were vegetarians, I mean cannibals; and we wanted their land.
Feb 10, 2017 3:33 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
Bogart_1960
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Bogart_1960: OP username checks out


btw, Constantinople is in Europe.. for sure. but syphilis might have come to Europe from the Americas.


now you know.



but lets not forget smallpox! f

Remember this when people tell you that "whateversm" is killing millions.... figure that out. laugh
Feb 10, 2017 6:40 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
GUZMAN1
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mykingdomforanam: "The romans didn't move people to reservations after a genocide. They conquered and ruled.5 hours ago"


I saw it on the History channel years ago...

I spent a few hours searching for "forced migrations," and all the other synonyms I could think of for it...

But I couldn't even find the Jewish Babylonian forced migration until I searched for "Jewish captivity."

I don't remember the name of the people the Romans moved to the east of Rome; but I remember learning about them.

If you need me to post sources for a debate, I'll concede that point, rather than spending another hour searching for a link just to prove it to you.

I believe my point was made without a reference to Romans anyway.


The thread is about indigenous europeans, not native americans. It's a different history.
Feb 10, 2017 10:48 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
Hmmm...

People with red hair, in North America?

Where could they have come from?
Feb 10, 2017 10:53 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
Tall, white people, with red hair...?

In North America, when the "Native Americans" arrived?
Feb 10, 2017 10:57 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
lifeisadream
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Is here the annual meeting of the Anthropological Archaeology international society?




laugh


Sagas are interesting yet not (scientific) evidence not point.

Good time to all!

(I will go next door for a coffee)
Feb 10, 2017 10:59 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
lifeisadream
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Bogart_1960: but lets not forget smallpox! f

Remember this when people tell you that "whateversm" is killing millions.... figure that out.


Being death by a small pox or by a big guy makes not difference at the end.




uh oh




laugh
Feb 10, 2017 11:22 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
The same "sagas" from Tennessee to California aren't evidence?

When suppourted by a very old dress, made with red hair?
Feb 10, 2017 11:26 AM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
And lets not forget the posts I put on page 1, that deal with scientific archeological evidence?
Feb 10, 2017 12:39 PM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
Sorry, the archeological evidence I posted was on page 2.
Feb 10, 2017 12:49 PM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Ethnic groups in Europe - Wikipedia: I'm in the catalan zone, so I'm not spanish ethnically.laugh

No more threatened by immigration than others.

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Feb 10, 2017 1:20 PM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
GUZMAN1
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GUZMAN1: Ethnic groups in Europe - Wikipedia: I'm in the catalan zone, so I'm not spanish ethnically.

No more threatened by immigration than others.


In Europe, present-day indigenous populations as recognized by the UN are relatively few. Nevertheless, the ethnic groups traditionally inhabiting most, if not all, European countries are considered to be indigenous to Europe. This includes the majority populations. It can lead to some confusion, because the term "indigenous" does not imply "non-white" or "minority" in Europe as it would in other continents where white people are non-indigenous.

from wikipedia
Aug 18, 2017 12:00 PM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
chris27292729
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I don't think ever is done Historically.
Normally the minority(immigrants),
assimilate with the Majority.-
It does happens only when the immigrants,
start arriving in vast numbers,
and outnumber the locals.
(USA,Canada,rest of America,Australia,NZ)
Aug 18, 2017 1:31 PM CST Are Europes indigenous peoples about to loose their grip on their own lands due to immigration?
aries1234: The Maori and Aboriginal people have been short changed , more so the Aboriginies, but Europe is being given away by the bleeding heart liberals. We don't like to hurt their feelings they say, they might get angry and do bad things.

Look at any major city in England , they have set up their own country in miniature, even to the clothe styles and shoos, and are trying yo introduce their laws and way of life to govern us.

look at London , now aptly named " little India"

It started with us from when the immigrants came from the commonwealth, but they have integrated, and follow our customs and laws.

This new wave will not.

Why do you think the British people voted Brexit, the ordinary British people have had enough.
....TOM....your 100% right......well said......thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up
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