If you did not have to pay child support would you? (56)

Jan 19, 2009 4:09 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
cristina: Feed them for Christ Sake!



thumbs up


It's shameful, to hear of irresponsible adult parents. I hope I don't run into one of those.



barf
Jan 19, 2009 4:11 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
keturah
keturahketurahSan Diego, California USA5 Posts
sad, sad cases...my six year old recieves no support and no contact at all from his "father" and btw I am one of five "baby momma's". My son is one of the oldest of his 6 children he has produced and not taken care of. When I ran into him while out one night, I confronted him on it and he said that it is my fault because I did not "keep him involved with his son" he and a few other men I have talked to about this subject think that it is the mothers' responsibility to keep them involved, send them updates and call THEM when something happens. And if we don't then this somehow excuses them of all fatherly duties and/or child support.
I raised a stink about it and to my suprise-men AND women aggreed with this theory. I was told I was "victemizing myself". lol
hence the reason why one needs a sense of humor to keep themselves from going nuts.....
I didn't know whether to laugh at them or bang my own head against a wall
oy!
Jan 19, 2009 4:12 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
lusciousmile: It's shameful, to hear of irresponsible adult parents. I hope I don't run into one of those.


Break his cardrinking
Jan 19, 2009 4:19 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
stefonline
stefonlinestefonlineDublin, Ireland136 Threads 9,702 Posts
mddljoe: speaking of folks that do
not pay...

i was blessed to raise my two children alone...

we never received monetary or emotional support from their mother...

now they are adults
she would like to build a relationship with them..

interesting dynamic...




Just when you have all the hard work comepleted.....mumbling
Jan 19, 2009 4:21 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
countryangel79
countryangel79countryangel79chardon, Ohio USA2 Threads 644 Posts
I just went to court a few weeks ago about this issue first question out of the magistrates mouth to my ex is how are you supporting your child? His answer was I go and visit him when I have time. She didn't buy that answer and again asked him how do you support you son. He wasn't getting her point that emotional support is good but I did not make this child on my own so why should I the mother support him on my owndoh I have never asked for anything money wise the court demanded it out of him. I do what has to be done monetarily, physically, medically etc no matter what the cost to me. I took the lowest amount that the court would allow and I still get greif for the fact that he was ordered to pay it by the court. He could have signed off on all his right and walked away
Jan 19, 2009 4:25 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
maybesoon
maybesoonmaybesoonthe moon, Queensland Australia16 Threads 1 Polls 951 Posts
BarrenPneuma: I pay 800 dollars to one ex and 400 to the other. I have spent 70,000 dollars over the past years to ensure my rights to have access to my children and regardless of the outcome (unanimously in favour of regular access) my exes follw the plan outlined by the courts until a few months pass and then I have to engage the courts again and again. I cannot call or even check their school records because they just refuse. Telling the schools without any documetation that they are the sole parent seems to work even when I bring in the court papers.
My mother died last year and my first ex has decided that even though it has been almost eight years she is entitled to the house. It has been thrown out of court multiple times already but she returns with a new direction each time. Now it is that the house is entitled to our children but in her care. Soon to be at a court near me for the low low cost of about 20,000 dollars.
When they decide to mutually attack me (odd that they never knew each other before but now party together all the time) they call the FRO (Family Responsibility Office) and report non-payments which freezes my bank accounts instantly. Even though all payments are through them. Any report is treated this way automatically even when it is clearly impossible. My payments to them come off of my cheques before I see a single cent. Three months of this early last year had me at a point where I could not even afford to eat. Then I get the typical phone calls laughing and explaining that they will not rest until I am dead and buried. My youngest son was horrified to see me one day on the street because his mother had told him that I died. He was cring uncontrollably in my arms and it damn near killed me.
Both of my exes have given up working for welfare. The first one and her boyfriend were arrested for half a million dollars worth of drugs, guns and other issues. He took the fall and went to jail for three months. Last year they vacationed in the US and Mexico, no border issues no nothing. I know people who have done three months for half an ounce of pot and no priors and to this day have criminal records that keep them tightly inside our Canadian borders.
The new ploy which has pushed my completely away is the FRO though as whenever I regain access through the courts they get involved (still have not gained a single penny back from the almost 15,000 dollars they froze). When my money is gone I cannot afford to feed myself so how could I in any good faith accept my children for a week with no food? It works let me tell you and I am done. I give up. In Canada a welfare lawyer is virtually undefeatable as the government does not want to pay for the woman and the child alone so they always get money from the man and even with all the issues on the mother's sides with drugs (both of them now) money talks in court here. Just keep paying and you win. I cannot compete with a drug dealer's salary no matter how hard I work.
I am leaving this country not to avoid payments but to free myself from all the headaches of these two hateful women. Oddly I have not spoken to the first in almost 7 years and the second in 3 yet somehow I am some sort of fisture in their imaginations.
I should have just killed the first one, I would be getting out of jail in the next few years and never would have met the other one. But then again I could never hurt the mother's of our children no matter what they do. It's why I gotta go.


man you do have it hard!!! i feel for you mate!!!

even tho i have full custody of my son, i choose not to collect child support for my son, as my ex does other things that are far more important then some money each fortnight, like being very active in his life on a daily basis, which outweigh the $ value by far!!!!handshake
Jan 19, 2009 4:33 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
coca20
coca20coca20suagus, Massachusetts USA25 Posts
i would not .
i want to be in my kids life
i have a dad , MY KIDS WILL HAVE A DAD
i will not have to pay child support ,
thy will be with me

coca20
Jan 19, 2009 4:35 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
countryangel79
countryangel79countryangel79chardon, Ohio USA2 Threads 644 Posts
countryangel79: I just went to court a few weeks ago about this issue first question out of the magistrates mouth to my ex is how are you supporting your child? His answer was I go and visit him when I have time. She didn't buy that answer and again asked him how do you support you son. He wasn't getting her point that emotional support is good but I did not make this child on my own so why should I the mother support him on my own I have never asked for anything money wise the court demanded it out of him. I do what has to be done monetarily, physically, medically etc no matter what the cost to me. I took the lowest amount that the court would allow and I still get greif for the fact that he was ordered to pay it by the court. He could have signed off on all his right and walked away
In fact him and his new wife are so bright that they think if they can just get me married then they will no longer have to pay support and that my spouse will support his child for him rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 19, 2009 4:39 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
countryangel79: In fact him and his new wife are so bright that they think if they can just get me married then they will no longer have to pay support and that my spouse will support his child for him


Now, that man sound like a real jerk! barf

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Jan 19, 2009 4:42 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
countryangel79
countryangel79countryangel79chardon, Ohio USA2 Threads 644 Posts
lusciousmile: Now, that man sound like a real jerk!
I think the problem here is that they both have taken too many blows to the head in the ringrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing I could not believe how ignorant people could be I hope its not inherited or contagious my son is smart so far I hope he doesnt catch it LOLrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 19, 2009 4:47 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
countryangel79: I think the problem here is that they both have taken too many blows to the head in the ring I could not believe how ignorant people could be I hope its not inherited or contagious my son is smart so far I hope he doesnt catch it LOL


He'll be fine, as long as you stay strong for him. I truly admire the sacrifices single parents make for their babies. thumbs up

A lot of positive energy and good wishes, coming your way.


hug teddybear
Jan 19, 2009 4:49 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
takeit4granted
takeit4grantedtakeit4grantednew berlin, Wisconsin USA4 Threads 785 Posts
child support is a morality issue,,of course I would. I live in a no fault state,,what bothers me is the "maintenance"bouquet
Jan 19, 2009 4:54 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
takeit4granted: child support is a morality issue,,of course I would. I live in a no fault state,,what bothers me is the "maintenance"


I'm just thinking, if a woman will not go out on dates as often as her ex-partner, because she has to tend o the needs of her kids, cooking, cleaning, more vomit from the baby, etc, then she should get a little maintenance, from her ex who is out there, living it up.

Just a thought. dunno
Jan 19, 2009 4:58 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
takeit4granted
takeit4grantedtakeit4grantednew berlin, Wisconsin USA4 Threads 785 Posts
That can work both ways,,pretty lady. But just to clarify,,,my children were grown and on they're own bouquet
Jan 19, 2009 5:00 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
takeit4granted: That can work both ways,,pretty lady. But just to clarify,,,my children were grown and on they're own


I know it can go both ways, but it is mostly women, who get to sit at home all day, breastfeeding and changing diapers. I was talking of those women.

bouquet
Jan 19, 2009 7:37 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
Maelstrom
MaelstromMaelstromcolorado springs, Colorado USA2 Posts
My son is the greatest thing in my life!! He is awesome and thinks I'm 'cool'!! My ex and I split his karate costs and soon, gymnastics!! My off days are spent with him, going to the park, doing artwork, reading and looking up dinosaurs on my laptop!!! No better way to spend the day than wrestling with my little guy, then later on at night, watching him sleep with his best friend, Sprinkles, his stuffed giraffe!! Knowing that I'm lucky enough to be his dad is like winning the lottery every week!!!
Jan 19, 2009 9:18 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
hawk69
hawk69hawk69somewhere, New Jersey USA1 Threads 1 Polls 183 Posts
vonney: And if your child lives with your ex full time? Do you feel you dont have a responsibility to contribute?
Absolutely, but if you re-read the post that you quoted, you'll see that I was paying support. Obviously, if I have a 14K credit.
Jan 19, 2009 9:21 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Some of the comments here have appalled me.
Jan 20, 2009 2:26 AM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
maybesoon
maybesoonmaybesoonthe moon, Queensland Australia16 Threads 1 Polls 951 Posts
Sommerauer71: Some of the comments here have appalled me.


sommers that a open statement, clear to explain, i'm interested...comfort
Jan 20, 2009 4:30 AM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
vonney
vonneyvonneyDublin, Ireland24 Threads 6,371 Posts
Hi Lush

I neither get nor expect maintence fron my ex husband, when we split I asked for support for the children but stated that I didnt want anything for myself. I am more than capable of maintaining myself and dont see that as my ex's responsibility.
Jan 20, 2009 4:32 AM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
vonney
vonneyvonneyDublin, Ireland24 Threads 6,371 Posts
Sorry must have been tired when I read your post. I asked the question because as I stated in a previous post my ex reckons that because the children live with me that they are my responsibility not his.
Jan 20, 2009 4:33 AM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
vonney
vonneyvonneyDublin, Ireland24 Threads 6,371 Posts
vonney: Sorry must have been tired when I read your post. I asked the question because as I stated in a previous post my ex reckons that because the children live with me that they are my responsibility not his.


Sorry forgot to quote , this reply was for hawk69
Jan 20, 2009 4:41 AM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
BarrenPneuma
BarrenPneumaBarrenPneumaGolden Staircase, Ontario Canada87 Threads 3 Polls 1,561 Posts
BarrenPneuma:
The new ploy which has pushed my completely away is the FRO though as whenever I regain access through the courts they get involved (still have not gained a single penny back from the almost 15,000 dollars they froze).


OMG this has finally changed the lovely people at the FRO have freed up a portion of my money that they froze and sent me a cheque for 300 dollars. So at that rate in 36 years and 9 months I should have it all back! Yippppeeee!!!! I should be just past 78 years old and about ready to start livin'!!!
Jan 20, 2009 10:35 AM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
beepy
beepybeepyMilton Keynes, Buckinghamshire, England UK2 Posts
when I was working as a senior manager the CSA asked me for £670 per month more than my income!I was sacked within 24 hours!
Jan 30, 2009 12:05 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
casie1600
casie1600casie1600Somewhere, Indiana USA16 Threads 3 Polls 640 Posts
Wow, that is all just insane! I cant believe that you have to go through that! If I were you, I dont know how Canadian systems work, but I would not put any more of your money into a bank account! Get a fire proof safe and keep it in a safe location and keep your own money so that they cant freeze it up and leave you with nothing!
This is just a really messed up situation, and I wish you the best of luck with all of that.

comfort
Jan 30, 2009 12:10 PM CST If you did not have to pay child support would you?
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Yes, I would. I paid it on my own before Domestic Relations stepped in, and actually paid more then.

Yes, I'm the one paying it...and I do whatever else I can to help out. I'd sacrifice anything for my sons...and I made the biggest one when I sacrificed custody in order to not have their father follow through on his threat to kidnap them, and to let them stay with the stay-at-home parent when they were young and needed it.

wine

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