which is more ignorant? believing there is a god or believing there is no possibility of one? (289)
Conrad73: I could have sworn it was the Evangelicals that are constantly looking for new Converts.
All the tactics you ascribe to Atheists are successfully employed by the Religionists,right down to the Threat of Hellfire and Eternal Damnation!
All the tactics you ascribe to Atheists are successfully employed by the Religionists,right down to the Threat of Hellfire and Eternal Damnation!
Exactly Conrad, but the lack of paragraphs obscured my vision - all correctly spelled but balled up by lack of paragraphs,perhaps he was angry or something
rusty_knight: My cats think I'm God - they are supremely intelligent animals and not at all primitive!¬
Yeah, but they're biased. You're the food guy.
11- pages and i still dont know is there a God or not ???
BOBANBOBAN: 11- pages and i still dont know is there a God or not ???
Never mind 11 pages, this has been going on since the Council of Nicea in 325 ce when Constantines crew decided the offical statements
BOBANBOBAN: 11- pages and i still dont know is there a God or not ???
Is it really important?Just know right from wrong.
BOBANBOBAN: 11- pages and i still dont know is there a God or not ???
Go and read the other 500 threads on this topic and maybe you can figure it out from there...
Its really amusing to me that Christians still think they are dealing with the uneducated masses. They think thew stuff that was given from the pulpits 50 yrs ago will still sway the minds of unbelievers but happily, secularism is on the ascendant - it isnt just me and my personal opinions - Europe is now secular and I rejoice every time I see a sign saying 'for sale' outside a church........
its natural progression........
a shift in consciousness........
a shift to a new reality..........
a shift to none judgmentalism.........
a shift to acceptance.........
and religions dont own it
its natural progression........
a shift in consciousness........
a shift to a new reality..........
a shift to none judgmentalism.........
a shift to acceptance.........
and religions dont own it
trish123: Im sorry but being dyslexic I find unbroken blocks of text unreadable - I got as far as you mentioning assumptions and then the words all started jumping around - sorry - I just couldnt read what you obviously went to pains to write
Hey Trish.
What you just said reminds me of a book I read called "The Gift of Dyslexia".
According to the author, dyslexia stems from a special ability that some people have that enables them to reorient their observational field.
That gift is great for many purposes, but it wreaks havoc with written language.
Here's the first chapter of the book.
I think you'll find it really interesting.
rodolpho: Is it really important?Just know right from wrong.
That was my point!!!
trish123: Its really amusing to me that Christians still think they are dealing with the uneducated masses. They think thew stuff that was given from the pulpits 50 yrs ago will still sway the minds of unbelievers but happily, secularism is on the ascendant - it isnt just me and my personal opinions - Europe is now secular and I rejoice every time I see a sign saying 'for sale' outside a church........
its natural progression........
a shift in consciousness........
a shift to a new reality..........
a shift to none judgmentalism.........
a shift to acceptance.........
and religions dont own it
its natural progression........
a shift in consciousness........
a shift to a new reality..........
a shift to none judgmentalism.........
a shift to acceptance.........
and religions dont own it
RayfromUSA: Hey Trish.
What you just said reminds me of a book I read called "The Gift of Dyslexia".
According to the author, dyslexia stems from a special ability that some people have that enables them to reorient their observational field.
That gift is great for many purposes, but it wreaks havoc with written language.
Here's the first chapter of the book.
I think you'll find it really interesting.
What you just said reminds me of a book I read called "The Gift of Dyslexia".
According to the author, dyslexia stems from a special ability that some people have that enables them to reorient their observational field.
That gift is great for many purposes, but it wreaks havoc with written language.
Here's the first chapter of the book.
I think you'll find it really interesting.
Thanks Ray, I will have a read - the common misconception is that dyslexics cant spell - i have no preblem with spelling except for when i bring it consciously to mind, then I get muddled on double letters or some spellings - but if I dont concentrate too much it flows really easily except in the case in point of mass blocks of text - the words just dance and i cant take it in - i did do lots of research at uni into this and will enjoy reading the link - Thanks Ray
trish123: Thanks Ray, I will have a read - the common misconception is that dyslexics cant spell - i have no preblem with spelling except for when i bring it consciously to mind, then I get muddled on double letters or some spellings - but if I dont concentrate too much it flows really easily except in the case in point of mass blocks of text - the words just dance and i cant take it in - i did do lots of research at uni into this and will enjoy reading the link - Thanks Ray
Hugz_n_Kissez: Go and read the other 500 threads on this topic and maybe you can figure it out from there...
You know i can not read only drink
BOBANBOBAN: You know i can not read only drink
Ohhhhhhh well maybe when ya sober up then..
Hugz_n_Kissez: Ohhhhhhh well maybe when ya sober up then..
Sober up??? this vodka was not for free
RayfromUSA: Hey Trish.
What you just said reminds me of a book I read called "The Gift of Dyslexia".
According to the author, dyslexia stems from a special ability that some people have that enables them to reorient their observational field.
That gift is great for many purposes, but it wreaks havoc with written language.
Here's the first chapter of the book.
I think you'll find it really interesting.
What you just said reminds me of a book I read called "The Gift of Dyslexia".
According to the author, dyslexia stems from a special ability that some people have that enables them to reorient their observational field.
That gift is great for many purposes, but it wreaks havoc with written language.
Here's the first chapter of the book.
I think you'll find it really interesting.
Ive put a shortcut to it Ray and thanks again - i was statemented a couple of yrs ago at uni and it did my head right in cos i never had a problem with spelling, i found it really hard to understand - but that was before I realised that dyslexia isnt just about spelling, its about the way the mind organises things - there are many types of learning skills - the psychologist I saw said that i have been deveoloping coping strategies all my life to be able to be a confident spellr - strange stuff isnt it - nice to speak to somebody who has read up on it - thanks again Ray
galwaydave: just something i want to know
I dont want to say that my adversaries are ignorant cos that would mean a sleight on many of my friends - suffice it to say that I believe that many people havent thought through for themselves, the stuff they were taught in school - especially in light of recent evidence - but, faith does preclude reason so there we have it.........
trish123: Crotalus was right, HL never once mentioned empirical evidence in the post in question.......
The point here is empirically, that we, as none believers, arent making a claim so the onus isnt on us to prove a claim we aint making - we await the proof of your god - amen......
The point here is empirically, that we, as none believers, arent making a claim so the onus isnt on us to prove a claim we aint making - we await the proof of your god - amen......
We owe you nothing but to LOVE you!
Our LOVE is the proof, but you fail to accept that.
Our God IS LOVE!
HealthyLiving: We owe you nothing but to LOVE you!
Our LOVE is the proof, but you fail to accept that.
Our God IS LOVE!
Our LOVE is the proof, but you fail to accept that.
Our God IS LOVE!
Where is you evidence for your claim HL - prove it I will be your puppy dog.......
Hello by the way
we all have love, religion doesnt have the yardstick on love or morality for that matter - yes, I love you too but what does that actually mean - love does not prove god, it does not prove morality - your continuous claims from personal experience prove nothing other than that YOU have faith..........
HealthyLiving: We owe you nothing but to LOVE you!
Our LOVE is the proof, but you fail to accept that.
Our God IS LOVE!
Our LOVE is the proof, but you fail to accept that.
Our God IS LOVE!
The thing is here, you do actually owe us - you make the claim so you have to prove it - its logic and saying love in capital letters is not proof of god.....
Oh Im so obviously squiffled - its late and spelling isnt my strongest point at the best of times
trish123: Oh Im so obviously squiffled - its late and spelling isnt my strongest point at the best of times
Squiffled?
Hi Trish
yep, squiffled - the birds are singing, its 4 am and the last post I made was a total mess of what i wanted to actually say - I wouldnt blame the enemy for coming back and ripping me to shreads for that one Goodnight H
StressFree: Wrong...you bend over to far for empirical science...
However, that's how the science is made.
rusty_knight: My cats think I'm God - they are supremely intelligent animals and not at all primitive!¬
Thats funny, my cats think they are god. Or at least they think they are my master.
rodolpho: Is it really important?Just know right from wrong.
Apart from God, how is it possible to know right from wrong?
Does each person get to make up their own version of the rules? If so, what do you do with the child molester?
Is it a majority thing? Should we vote on what is right or wrong? And could that majority be wrong? Has a majority ever been wrong?
right or wrong...Question: "If there is a God, then why do the innocent suffer?"
OR HOW ABOUT: "If there is no God, what makes them innocent and why should you care if they suffer?"
MikeHD: Apart from God, how is it possible to know right from wrong?
This has been explained to you many times before 
trish123: Its really amusing to me that Christians still think they are dealing with the uneducated masses. They think thew stuff that was given from the pulpits 50 yrs ago will still sway the minds of unbelievers but happily, secularism is on the ascendant - it isnt just me and my personal opinions - Europe is now secular and I rejoice every time I see a sign saying 'for sale' outside a church........
its natural progression........
a shift in consciousness........
a shift to a new reality..........
a shift to none judgmentalism.........
a shift to acceptance.........
and religions dont own it
its natural progression........
a shift in consciousness........
a shift to a new reality..........
a shift to none judgmentalism.........
a shift to acceptance.........
and religions dont own it
I agree Trish, the best thing for Christianity is the decline in the false-Christian. The best thing the world could do is make Christianity illegal. Then we would see the real church come alive. It is happening right now in countries where Christians are being tortured and killed. An average of 171,000 Christians worldwide are martyred for their faith every year. I have no problem with churche buildings being sold. In places where they cannot even have a church building, the gospel is often preached with more purity and power than where there are buildings. Remember it was under extreme persecution that Christianity exploded and changed the western world forever. Let the world see the false church die, and then shrink back in awe as the true church arises.
trish123: Its really amusing to me that Christians still think they are dealing with the uneducated masses. They think thew stuff that was given from the pulpits 50 yrs ago will still sway the minds of unbelievers but happily, secularism is on the ascendant - it isnt just me and my personal opinions - Europe is now secular and I rejoice every time I see a sign saying 'for sale' outside a church........
its natural progression........
a shift in consciousness........
a shift to a new reality..........
a shift to none judgmentalism.........
a shift to acceptance.........
and religions dont own it
its natural progression........
a shift in consciousness........
a shift to a new reality..........
a shift to none judgmentalism.........
a shift to acceptance.........
and religions dont own it
A shift to postmodernism ?
More Threads
Don Shits-In-Pants!!!
Salami, Salami, Baloney
1830's Music
What I Lack In Vocabulary
What's going on
Icebergs Still Around
Nature
everything is changing
How far is too far?
Heavy Bass In The PM
More Threads
Report threads that break rules, are offensive, or contain fighting. Staff may not be aware of the forum abuse, and cannot do anything about it unless you tell us about it. click to report forum abuse »
Let's pull the plug out of Hell and get the heck out of Dodge!
Hiya Conrad - how're you doing?